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RoccoRock
08-02-2012, 09:56 AM
This is something that the pro shop guy has told me a few times. He said because I have a very high rev rate, that I need to use mid range and low end balls. Top of the line balls won't work for me most of the time. Does this should right to you guys? I'm still learning about balls, and what each one does, and reaction, so he could be telling me that because I own high end balls, and he wants to sell me on a new ball. I don't think that's the case, I trust the guy, but again, it's not something I would know unless told, and explained to me.

Ball99999
08-02-2012, 10:05 AM
What about your ball speed?

RoccoRock
08-02-2012, 10:24 AM
About 16.5, 17. I am also thinking about dropping weight to a 14, not sure if I drop weight would a higher end basil work better then. Don't get me wrong, I love using middle of the road balls, they are cheaper. I just want to know if theres any merit ti what he said, and any time I could use a high end ball.

RoccoRock
08-02-2012, 10:25 AM
Again, an unclear post by me. Ball speed is 16.5, 17. I am currently using 15# balls, but thinking of going to 14#.

jimlc2001
08-02-2012, 11:29 AM
If you drop down to 14#, your speed might jump to 19-20mph. If you are comfortable using 15# equipment, I don't suggest changing.

When I bowled no thumb, I used a Track Equation and could barely keep it on the lane with the amount of revs I was able to create. A lot of it has to deal with the amount of oil on the lanes. For a typical house shot, a high-end ball will usually be too strong for a no thumb bowler, but for a sport league shot or tournament shot, a high end ball will work great.

bowl1820
08-02-2012, 11:59 AM
This is something that the pro shop guy has told me a few times. He said because I have a very high rev rate, that I need to use mid range and low end balls.Top of the line balls won't work for me most of the time. Does this should right to you guys?

It's not a unreasonable recommendation to make, Usually High Performance/Top of the line balls are the strongest ball's (they hook the most). If you couple that with a high rev powerful release, it can be too much for most conditions. So sticking to mid range and low end balls could serve a bowler better in the long run.

Now some might say well you could get the High Performance ball and drill it weak. Yes you could, but why buy a high priced, High Performance ball and drill all the guts out it. When you could pay less, get a mid-range and drill it with your standard or a stronger layout and do the same thing.

The most expensive/High Performance ball isn't always the answer.

RoccoRock
08-02-2012, 12:01 PM
Ok, that's pretty much exactly what he told me. I may need something a little stronger eventually, when I try sport patterns, but for now I'm pretty much only bowling house patterns.

bowl1820
08-02-2012, 12:02 PM
would a higher end basil work better then.
Well me I prefer Fresh Basil, it's a lot better than the dry stuff.

RoccoRock
08-02-2012, 12:31 PM
Lol, stupid phone!

Hot_pocket
08-02-2012, 05:24 PM
The pro shop i used to go to the owner used to tell me the same thing but i did go outside of his judgment and i honestly have to say i was glad i did. I Shot my first 300 with a roto grip rsx which was low end, my second was with the nvd and my third with a brunswick c-system alpha-max. Dont get me wrong i definitely would listen to a guy who does drilling for a living but one who also listens to what their costumers want and have more of an opinion then a " no you dont need that get this" approach.

backahead
08-02-2012, 05:51 PM
The pro shop i used to go to the owner used to tell me the same thing but i did go outside of his judgment and i honestly have to say i was glad i did. I Shot my first 300 with a roto grip rsx which was low end, my second was with the nvd and my third with a brunswick c-system alpha-max. Dont get me wrong i definitely would listen to a guy who does drilling for a living but one who also listens to what their costumers want and have more of an opinion then a " no you dont need that get this" approach.

Hot Pocket, I read earlier that you bowl at the White Plains lanes. What is your experience there and have you had any interactions with the pro shop? I have a coaching session coming up on the 11th there.

backahead
08-02-2012, 06:02 PM
Err, Sorry Rocco I just hijacked your thread. My bad, wasn't thinking.

Hot Pocket, a private reply would be fine.

RoccoRock
08-02-2012, 07:26 PM
It's all good, if you didn't hijack it we may have headed into basil talk, and recipies for fried chicken or something. Either that, or in two or three posts I would announce I am trying a new style. I am a pro at hijacking my own threads. I think at the current time, about as high end as I want to go would be a DV8 Too Reckless.

billf
08-02-2012, 08:17 PM
RoccoRock, you and Bowl1820 have it correct. For a THS you probably don't need a pro performance ball. Especially not with a good rev rate and good speed. Even a lot of sport patterns you won't need it either but will have an easier time using one there than on a THS. This is my second year bowling sport patterns and I'm surprised how many patterns I can still score well using my Natural Pearl and Misfit. The times I have used my two HRRs and Nexxus were just because I wanted to, not needed to. The Too Reckless is a very good ball, BTW.

RoccoRock
08-02-2012, 09:30 PM
I wonder what my rev rate is? I would do the whole tape, video thing, but I don't think my camera, or phone are good enough to even be able to see what's going on. If my ball driller says it's too much for high end balls, it has to be fairly high. The best part, not only is my rev rate higher than when I use my thumb, but I am 10 times more accurate, and revs mean absolutly nothing without accuracy. Hey, that may be my next signature!