Drop your damn shoulder!

[mcneguy]

First post here so I apologize if it is stupid but I have been out of the game for about 15 years and recently started again. I came across Joe Slowinsky's web page and discovered that this is drop your damn shoulder week. I downloaded all there was to read on that and I am going out tonight to practice it.

My question is, what do you think of the concept in general? I have an all day session at Kegel next Friday so I'm torn between trying this or just leaving it alone and let my coach at Kegel fix whatever is wrong but why not try both?

Yes I do know how to search so if there are 500 topics on this already i apologize.

[bowl1820]

Given if your going to Kegel next friday, I wouldn't try adding something new to the mix.

Let them work with how you bowl now and fix what's broken. Adding something new and that your unfamiliar with, would just make the coaching process more difficult by not giving them a clear picture of how you have been bowling.

Then you can ask them later , their thoughts on doing that.

[J Anderson]

First post here so I apologize if it is stupid but I have been out of the game for about 15 years and recently started again. I came across Joe Slowinsky's web page and discovered that this is drop your damn shoulder week. I downloaded all there was to read on that and I am going out tonight to practice it.

My question is, what do you think of the concept in general? I have an all day session at Kegel next Friday so I'm torn between trying this or just leaving it alone and let my coach at Kegel fix whatever is wrong but why not try both?

Yes I do know how to search so if there are 500 topics on this already i apologize.

Back in the "good old days" technique was all about keeping things square. Come to think of it I think the old bowling coaches must have been carpenters because there was so much emphasis on square ( to the foul line ) and level ( shoulders parallel to the floor ). Now if you start with your shoulders level and let them drop during your approach, your head gets pulled to one side, throwing off your aim. Since walking around with a 15 or 16 pound ball is a decidedly unnatural act, its very hard to keep those shoulders level for three games.
The current thinking is to let the weight of the ball pull the shoulder down in your start-up position. Your head gets pulled over to a point that is closer to being in line with your target and stays there naturally. Even though I am a carpenter I like this concept. I've worked on enough old houses to know there are times when Plumb, Level, and Square have to give way to fitting right and looking right.

[billf]

My thinking is different (what else is new). I would try to incorporate it now. Why not? They can't help correct something that you're not doing and if they add it there it would feel strange still. So why not get somewhat comfortable with it now? DYDS works well for me.

[Tampabaybob]

Well, just flipped a coin about Bill or 1820 being right and sorry Bill, this time I have to agree with 1820. He's right about starting something new. He's going to be paying "a lot of money" to go to KEGEL and to throw something into this mix this late could be very counter-productive. Slowinski coaches at KEGEL and if he sees him dropping his shoulder that'll be one of the first things he'll critique. He wi'll straighten that out right away because it'll be very obvious.

MCNEGUY I'm very envious. Even though I've been coaching almost 50 years, been a regional pro, and have averaged well over 200 since the 80's, I'd love to be able to go down to KEGEL and have those guys work with me. You'll get some of the best coaching money can buy. Let us know how you make out after getting back and what some of the things they went over with you.

Bob

[billf]

Joe left Kegel to take a lucrative coaching position in Europe. Or so I heard.

[Fatal]

How much is it to train with the coaches at Kegel? I wish I could find a good coach in the KC area..

[bowl1820]

How much is it to train with the coaches at Kegel? I wish I could find a good coach in the KC area..

Private Lessons
Full Day: $550 (9am - 4pm)
Half Day: $330 (9am - 12pm or 1pm - 4pm)

http://kegeltrainingcenter.com/v2/lessons.htm

The group rate is cheaper, but a Private Lesson would be more intense.

I went 3 times years ago, back then we got a group rate of $60 a person full day and there were about 10 or 12 of us. Not as organized as today back then but was was helpful.
It's gone up some, but they do a lot more today than back then.

It's still worth though.

[mcneguy]

I am paying $175 for an all day session. There are 5 people but 2 coaches. It is one of the benefits of living in central Florida. If you like bowling and golf, you cannot find better coaching anywhere.

I tried dyds tonight and it felt odd. Admittedly, I wasn't fully committed. I will see what happens at Kegel next week. I will update once its done and maybe post part of the DVD I take home.

[striker12]

i use to drop my right sholder down way to much where my left sholder is higher and it took my balance off took me about a year to get my sholder up and stop droping but i got the hang ofit and started doing much better and hitting my target better.

[snugbucco]

How much is it to train with the coaches at Kegel? I wish I could find a good coach in the KC area..

Bruce who runs the pro shop at strike and spare does lessons. He has thrown a lot of perfect games and is a pba member. He charges 25 dollars an hour... just make sure you schedule way in advance ..

[tazmike]

hey there mcneguy where do you usually bowl at in central florida?

[mcneguy]

I just joined the men's commercial league at Brunswick Wekiva Lanes in Apopka so I bowl there a lot.

[Tampabaybob]

i use to drop my right sholder down way to much where my left sholder is higher and it took my balance off took me about a year to get my sholder up and stop droping but i got the hang ofit and started doing much better and hitting my target better.

I have a 14 year old boy who is a natural, and he's doing the same thing; dropping too far down and it's causing him to almost side arm the ball. He's a great kid and has been bowling fairly well, but that shoulder drop is costing him lots of pins on his average. Most of the kids are just the opposite and it's hard to get them to drop it. But I'll keep working on him and I'm sure he'll come around.

Bob