is this a foul?

[maximumslinky]

so this whole thing started on my tuesday night league. there is a guy up there that i can not stand to bowl next to. if you bowl next to him and he bowls first, he will stand there and watch his ball roll down the lane (which is quite slow). i have no problem with that. the problem is when i am next to him, he throws his ball first then i get on the approach and take my first step he will take a huge side step and step right into my lane as if that side step will make his ball hit the pocket better (he steps which ever way he wants his ball to travel). the first time it happened i almost ran into him because i wasnt expecting it. the next time i yelled "roger, get in your own damn lane". one of the guys on my team mentioned that stepping into someones lane may be a foul. does anyone know the ruling on this?

[bowl1820]

No that is not a foul. That why you shouldn't be in a hurry to shoot. Wait till the bowler on the other lane leaves the approach.

Rule 5 – Fouls
Commonly Asked Questions – Rule 5a.
5a/3 A member of a team crosses onto an adjacent approach when making a delivery. Is this
considered a foul?
A foul is not called when a bowler crosses onto an adjoining approach area. However, if the
bowler steps over the foul line on that lane, it is considered a foul.

[Zothen]

It could be considered a dead ball foul if he hits you while you bowl,other then that USBC rule 5a/3 is correct! I would complain to the president if it continues to happen.

Zothen

[striker12]

theres one guy on my jr bowling team that always gose into the lane to his right he never stops running untill the ball is like half way down the lane and with him doing this one time he stepped into my foul line and we gave him a foul so i waited a few minutes to throw and as soon as i did it came up on my screen a foul and i was trying to wodner why that happened and i was a step off so i was 5 inch away from the foul line.

[bowl1820]

It could be considered a dead ball foul if he hits you while you bowl,other then that USBC rule 5a/3 is correct! I would complain to the president if it continues to happen.

Zothen

A dead ball is not a foul, it's a dead ball.

Rule 8 – Dead Ball
When a dead ball is called, the delivery does not count and the correct pins must be respotted. The
player is allowed to rebowl that delivery.

The part that would apply here is:
e. A player has physical contact with another person or moving object as the ball is being delivered
and before delivery is completed. In such case, the player has the option to accept the resulting
pinfall or have a dead ball called.

This could apply to both players and is dependent on whether the delivery was completed.

In the above case the player that crossed over had finished his delivery, then stepped over in the the other lane, so it wouldn't be a dead ball for him.

Now if Max ran into him during his delivery, Max would have the dead ball.

[maximumslinky]

thanks for the answer guys. guess i will just have to pray we dont get stuck next to him anymore.

[bowl1820]

thanks for the answer guys. guess i will just have to pray we dont get stuck next to him anymore.

You Don't need prayers, just patience. Just wait for him to finish.

[maximumslinky]

You Don't need prayers, just patience. Just wait for him to finish.

but if i wait for him to finish and i dont strike, who will i blame it on?

[billf]

Blame it on having to wait so long.
Seriously though, it's not a drag race. He can run it out, step where he wants, etc. just wait until they are completely done. My Monday league has a lot of real heavy guys that fall off every shot and always end up in the lane next to them. They look ridiculous but it is what it is.

[scottymoney]

Thanks for your input spammer!

[RoccoRock]

We have one of these guys in my league. He drags his foot, and slide back to the right long after throwing the ball. My teammate can't stand it, and has gone as far as threatening to beat him up. I don't see the need for that. Just wait until they're done with thier theatrics and then bowl.

[HughScot]

If you think those guys are bad you should bowl in a seniors mixed league, some of those people take forever to start their approach. And one woman walks so slow I could take a bathroom break. Of course she averages abt 160.

[BoomGoesTheDynomite]

like everyone else said not a foul. You just have to let him do his thing and avoid him. People do that all the time in the leagues I bowl in.

[Cuda K5]

I am "that guy" I start out on the far left dot and will walk all the way to the gutter of my lane and the left lane. I even have a pretty big leg kick that I am sure ends up halfway in the left lane. I just make sure no one is even close to shooting before I go. and I move back to the middle of my lane before the ball hits the pins

[ArtVandelay]

I love watching other people. hahaha. I'm the patient type, so it doesn't bother me unless something's going on that could cause injury.

I especially love the people who have that plant stop (well, I have a plant stop, but...) but the stop is so abrupt they have to take a couple stutter steps to keep their balance after release. We have a guy like that in our league, and he has to be one of the nicest guys anyone could ever meet, but when he bowls it's cartoonish! hahaha. I'm telling you, that guy always looks like he is going to fall or foul. It will happen sooner or later!