Would This make a Differance on Dry to medium lanes?????

[MICHAEL]

Hummmm,,, I am finding that all my balls are way to aggressive for medium or even medium light oil!! 5 fricken balls, and when the oil breaks down I have nothing! I wind up moving all the way from between 5 and 10 board to 30 and even then I don’t like the way the ball reacts going into the pocket.

I wounder what would happen if I took on of my balls, SAY the Undefeated had it pluged, and then re drilled in a much weaker position. Do you think that might solve the need for a much less aggressive ball without purchasing a new one! We are talking 30 bucks, vs over a hundred!

I notice this seems to happen a lot when I bowl on teams with 5 bowlers, making it 10 on the two lanes.
Don’t have that problem when on 3 or 2 person teams.

[The German Shepherd]

An aggressive cover will still be an aggressive cover no matter how it is drilled. Certainly drilling it in a weaker position will be of some help, but.....

You really need to get a lower hook rated ball. My bowling alley actually has reconditioned balls that are great for this kind of thing and they are pretty cheap. Perhaps your local alleys have something similar in their pro shops?

Jay

[noeymc]

i gotta go with shatterthe way i understand it is heavy oil balls neeld oil med/heavy ride on the edage of oil but needs a little to slide light needs little to no oil to hook

i can play almost the same line with my shatter as i do with the taboo thanks to the strong drilling i got and somehow i get more hook on that ball =D but i think i am not sure but if you where to throw your ball with palm up i think u could still use a heavy oil ball and it would still hook and be ok? this may be wrong but its my understanding of it

[Zothen]

Drillng an aggressive ball weakly is defeating the purpose of what the ball is intended for,you are better off getting a light oil ball for light-medium oil. You could also try adjusting the coverstock to 3000-4000 with polish and see if that helps.

Zothen

[HughScot]

I use an inexpensive ball the Ebonite Cyclone for dry conditions.

[billf]

Mike, the Cyclone would definitely be the way to go for your style with a 60 X 4 X 30 layout. Polishing and raising the grit of the coverstock on the Undefeated would help but not completely solve your problem.

[JaMau24]

My next ball is going to be something very weak. WHY doesn't DV8 have anything real weak!?!? ugh. The Misfit just isn't weak enough. I'm thinking about a Hammer Nail unless/until DV8 comes out with something sooner/later.

[MICHAEL]

My next ball is going to be something very weak. WHY doesn't DV8 have anything real weak!?!? ugh. The Misfit just isn't weak enough. I'm thinking about a Hammer Nail unless/until DV8 comes out with something sooner/later.

Strom has a few, and Made in the USA? NOT China!! ( I know bill had problems with management), but the works had nothing to do with that! What about the natural, or.....one of several others they sell in that area....

[MICHAEL]

I polished that Marauder, and it kicked like hell at the end of the lane!!!! I guess it saves up a lot of energy, then Bhammmmmm!! I don't want the ball to have that huge snap at the end, but a more controled gradual arc into the pocket, (((when lanes get dry while bowling)). Bill do you think pluging one and doing a weak placement could help on worn out paths to the pocket?

[serial bowl]

My next ball is going to be something very weak. WHY doesn't DV8 have anything real weak!?!? ugh. The Misfit just isn't weak enough. I'm thinking about a Hammer Nail unless/until DV8 comes out with something sooner/later.

I throw a Nail, and I can tell you from experience it's not as weak as you may think.
The Nail is also "MADE IN THE USA"!!.

[J Anderson]

I polished that Marauder, and it kicked like hell at the end of the lane!!!! I guess it saves up a lot of energy, then Bhammmmmm!! I don't want the ball to have that huge snap at the end, but a more controled gradual arc into the pocket, (((when lanes get dry while bowling)). Bill do you think pluging one and doing a weak placement could help on worn out paths to the pocket?

I'm not Bill, but I think Jay gave you the answer right off the bat. You need a weaker ball. When you were teaching young guys how to work on the high iron, did you tell them to use the right tool for each job, or did you let them grab any old tool and try to make it work?

[MICHAEL]

I'm not Bill, but I think Jay gave you the answer right off the bat. You need a weaker ball. When you were teaching young guys how to work on the high iron, did you tell them to use the right tool for each job, or did you let them grab any old tool and try to make it work?

Maybe not any old tool, but many times their is more then one way to skin a cat! some times the tool you would LIKE TO HAVE cost to much, and you have to settle for a makeshift tool! Bill also knows about that being an auto mechanic! The best tool, is not always available, so you try to use another that will work as well, and get the job done. I am looking for the least expensive way! If,,, I can! I am not rich like you James.... LOL.... I have to improvise!!

[75lockwood]

I'm not Bill, but I think Jay gave you the answer right off the bat. You need a weaker ball. When you were teaching young guys how to work on the high iron, did you tell them to use the right tool for each job, or did you let them grab any old tool and try to make it work?

I agree with the 200x, after seeing what happens to my marauder when the lanes dry up, having a weaker ball in the bag is vital!

When the nexxxus arrives i will be looking though the used ball rack at the pro shop to find a nice gem for this.

[billf]

Mike, it could help to change the layout and change the surface to a higher grit. Going up in grits one size at a time helps to smooth out the hook, or so I've been told. Basically you need a ball designed for that condition but are trying to modify what you have until it's financially feasible. I get it just don't overlook a used low oil ball for about the same price.

[MICHAEL]

Mike, it could help to change the layout and change the surface to a higher grit. Going up in grits one size at a time helps to smooth out the hook, or so I've been told. Basically you need a ball designed for that condition but are trying to modify what you have until it's financially feasible. I get it just don't overlook a used low oil ball for about the same price.

good point Bill, and I agree with your thoughts/ideas! I might just for the fun of it try one of my Undefeated balls first! Would be a interesting experiment! Like many experiments, it may fail, but it won't be the first time one of my ideas didn't work!! lol,,,,, but then I have had some that turned out better then I ever expected!! thanks for the help Bill! Hope that wrist get better soon,,,, ((( READ ABOUT DMSO))) I have two bottles of it at my house,,, great for healing, and pain, no side effects! I have many friends using it now!

[LonelyBowler]

I'm thinking it's your skill: release or speed problem.

[MICHAEL]

I'm thinking it's your skill: release or speed problem.

No wonder your a lonely bowler, nothing is wrong with my SKILL, RELEASE or ,,,, I don't do SPEED!!! LOL

[MICHAEL]

Dicks sporting goods has their Ebonite Nitro on sell for 29.95!!!! In all weights, including drilling! I don't want them to drill it, but even then it would only be another 30, plus 10 for the vise thumb insert, plus insurts for the finger holes 10, total 80 bucks I am going to run up there and get one today!!

[billf]

I'm thinking it's your skill: release or speed problem.

Maybe I'm misunderstanding but you think that Mike having problems getting a high performance, heavy oil ball to hit the pocket on dry lanes is a skill problem?

[MICHAEL]

Maybe I'm misunderstanding but you think that Mike having problems getting a high performance, heavy oil ball to hit the pocket on dry lanes is a skill problem?

I think

In a nutshell that’s 90 percent of the bowlers problems in the world!! Lol

Lets face it, when I bowl a 298, or 290, 289,,, or a few weeks ago two 270 games in a role (277,274) that has nothing to do with the lack of skill! Remember I am a broken down old Ironworker, getting older by the minute! I am sure there is a way of throwing a high performance ball that makes it hook less! I have tried the move left and it works to a certain degree,,, but when I wind up on 30 board that’s out of my control range. When I bowl on 3 man, or even most 4 person teams I don’t have the problem! But on 5 person teams, good teams with lots of high rev bowlers they eat the oil up within the first game! That would be the only time I need this special ball that is not so reactive to dry lanes!

Do I get the NITRO, or just go to the house of pancakes and have a platter of blueberry pancakes!! If I did do that would it be like: (having your pancakes, and bowling with it too!) lol oooo I crack myself UP sometimes!!! Later Dude’s, and ladies, I have a dozen trees, I need to cut up and split!!