Medium to Medium Dry Ball

[75lockwood]

Hey guys,

So its official, my parents are going to get me a plastic ball for Christmas :D now, this leaves one sizable hole in my arsenal still:

Plastic Ball ________ Marauder NeXXXus

but what to fill it with? well, i would like to try out either a Storm or Roto grip ball but which one? I have heard good things about the HyRoad, then there's the Tropical heat, Riot, Dark Star, and Rising Star.


What does everyone think? don't limit yourself to the balls i listed, but i would like to stick with storm for this ball. (try something new)

[Cochese]

I have been eyeballing this....Hammer Nail Smoke and Fire (http://www.bowlingball.com/products/bowling-balls/Hammer/10367/Nail-Smoke-and-Fire.html)

I love the color pattern and seems like it would be a good dry lane ball. I was thinking it would be a good step down from my DV8 Terror and Storm Frantic and I could probably use it for spares easier than either of my other ball.

But.....Zothen pointed out to me in another thread that it is probably still going to be too much ball for dryer conditions so someone like a Blue Hammer Urethane or Brunswick Karma urethane is probably more practical. I am thinking his advice sounds pretty solid.

[75lockwood]

I was thinking of urethane, but it is a lot more of a niche ball, and when the lanes are that dry i could survive with the plastic ball for now. The Smoke and fire is interesting, it is a fair bit weaker than anything i was looking at.... it seems to fit right between urethane and what i'm looking for lol.


I'm not afraid to move left and throw coast to coast, so i think having the gap between plastic and med to dry is not the biggest deal. but plastic to marauder is a little much lol

[e-tank]

isnt the Karma urethane?

[striker12]

lockwood get a entry lvl ball works jsut as good as a urethane but has more hook and a great ball is.

dv8- misfit
c300-freeze/freeze solid/freeze hybrid
hammer-nail smokme and fire
ebonite-cyclone
brunswick-slingshot
storm- tropical breeze
rotogrip-shout/scream
motiv- venom strike/ qz2 backdraft/thrash/sigma tour

these are all great brands that have good balls to pick from for what you are looking for.

[MisterSinister]

If you want to stay DV8/Brunswick, then you should go Misfit. Get the green slime one, it looks cool.

[75lockwood]

If you want to stay DV8/Brunswick, then you should go Misfit. Get the green slime one, it looks cool.

LOL i did say storm/rotogrip right? somebody heard me? and besides, the misfit isn't all that weak lol

[Cochese]

If you need an air freshener or its little brother ....go tropical breeze or Roto just came out with the Wrecker too. Both would fit the bill.

[Brother_jd]

A Tropical Breeze, Tropical Heat. You could even go with a Manic or a Frantic. The Hyroad will work too.

[J Anderson]

LOL i did say storm/rotogrip right? somebody heard me? and besides, the misfit isn't all that weak lol

Once you have been assimilated by the Deviants you can never go back to normal.

[Cochese]

A Tropical Breeze, Tropical Heat. You could even go with a Manic or a Frantic. The Hyroad will work too.

A Frantic will not be good for light conditions. I have one and it is not that much weaker than my DV8 Terror.

[scottymoney]

Get a Slingshot, I mean we recommend it to so many people someone might as well actually use it!

[Greenday]

A Tropical Breeze, Tropical Heat. You could even go with a Manic or a Frantic. The Hyroad will work too.

As far as the Frantic goes, it's a bit too strong for Medium-Dry lanes or drier. MAYBE if you drill it for length, but the Frantic is more of a medium to medium-heavy oil ball.

I have some trouble using my Frantic when the oil breaks down. Hooks too much when things start to dry out.

[billf]

Good lord, does anybody actually read what's posted and see what the ball they suggest is suppose to be used for? The Misfit is not a dry lane ball nor light oil. Neither are the Frantic or Hy-Road. They are all medium to medium-heavy. Can they be used? Yes but using a ball out of where it was designed calls for big adjustments with lower pin carry and hitting power. Will a stock Mini-Cooper run a quarter-mile? Yes but not as well as a top fuel dragster. Use the right tool for the job.

Storm Natural. It's slightly stronger than the Natural Pearl. Don't disregard the urethane balls. Are they niche balls? Yes but when used correctly every ball is! Urethane will read consistently and does not soak up as much oil as reactive resin. Once you get use to it this can have many benefits. They are not big hook monsters but you can kill the same break point all day long with urethane.

[MisterSinister]

Well, I guess I'm the biggest idiot of them all, right Bill. Not only did I not read the Storm part, but I suggested a Misfit. Guess I have absolutly no clue as to what I'm talking about, and shouldn't be giving advice. Maybe from now on I'll just give crap advice on every thread so Bill can correct me.

[billf]

You don't do it all the time like some people do. I get so frustrated seeing it posted that "get an entry level ball like the Misfit". We all make mistakes (including me! lol). Don't take it so personal.

[MisterSinister]

I went by the Med part of the post. The Misfit is listed as Med ball. So my bad that I didn't read the Storm part, and if I suggested a ball on the Med side, instead of Med Dry side. Honestly, if you go urathane with the arsenal you have now, there would be a huge gap between the Marauder and a Urathane ball. I won't suggest a ball that would be weaker than the marauder, but stronger than urathane cause I clearly have no idea what I am talking about, but you can figure it out.

[Greenday]

You don't do it all the time like some people do. I get so frustrated seeing it posted that "get an entry level ball like the Misfit". We all make mistakes (including me! lol). Don't take it so personal.

I see it too and I'm left wondering, "Wtf? That ball seems pretty inappropriate for what was asked."

I'm getting a Tropical Breeze that should be here in a couple weeks. Gonna have it drilled for length and that'll do really well for a dry/light oil ball.

[75lockwood]

Ok, First thank you bill, as usual you made a lot of sense. second, i have to apologize for part of the confusion, the word "medium" probably shouldn't have been used.

Regarding Urethane, the Natural looks interesting, looking back, the rotogrip grenade looks like the exact same ball lol I have a bit more research to do before dismissing anything. Thanks guys

[Zothen]

Medium oil-Roto Grip Shatter,Track 508A,AMF Bullwhip,Storm !Q Gold/!Q Tour or Fringe/Frantic,Columbia Violent Eruption,Ebonite Endure,Hammer Jet Black Taboo or Epidemic,900 Global Sure Thing or Look/Dirty Look,Brunswick C-(system)Versa Max or Maxxed Out.

Dry/Light oil-Brunswick Slingshot or Meanstreak or Karma Solid/Pearl(Urethane),Storm Tropical Heat or Natural(Urethane),Columbia U2(Urethane),Hammer Blue Hammer(Urethane),Ebonite Cyclone,Track 300 T,Roto Grip Scream or Shout,AMF Cobra(Urethane).

@Billf-Most of us went by the balls he had suggested,IE Dark & Rising Star,etc and were trying to list balls on that line as well as his Medium dry-Medium post header.

Zothen

[75lockwood]

Roto Grip beserk or Shatter,Track 508A,AMF Bullwhip,Storm !Q Gold/!Q Tour or Fringe/Frantic,Columbia Violent Eruption,Ebonite Endure,Hammer Jet Black Taboo or Epidemic,900 Global Sure Thing or Look/Dirty Look,Brunswick C-(system)Versa Max or Maxxed Out.

Zothen

Umm....

[Zothen]

@75lockwood-I revised my list!

Zothen

[75lockwood]

the scream/shout look interesting, they seem like a slight step up from urethane.. so many choices!

[Zothen]

I have the Shout and it is a very nice rolling ball for light oil.

Zothen

[MisterSinister]

the scream/shout look interesting, they seem like a slight step up from urethane.. so many choices!

If your going thast way, get the Shout, the Scream looks like a watermelon. I'm intersted in what the perfect scale rating on the Wrecker will be, it's listed as a Med Dry ball, but no rating yet.

[75lockwood]

If your going thast way, get the Shout, the Scream looks like a watermelon. I'm intersted in what the perfect scale rating on the Wrecker will be, it's listed as a Med Dry ball, but no rating yet.

The Wrecker does look interesting, i'm betting the perfect scale will be around 145ish

[MisterSinister]

The Wrecker does look interesting, i'm betting the perfect scale will be around 145ish

The don't know about that. I think it's stronger than I first though. According to what Rotogrip says, and what the ratings on similar Rotogrip balls are, I would guess low 180's. Of course, I have been know to be wrong about bowling balls.

[Zothen]

I would guess the scale would fall between the beserk and shout since the wrecker is between the 2.

Zothen

[Cochese]

How do reactive balls like the Hammer Nail smoke and fire get a 137 and the Storm Tropical breeze get a 118 rating and urethane balls are around 125.

[Brother_jd]

How do reactive balls like the Hammer Nail smoke and fire get a 137 and the Storm Tropical breeze get a 118 rating and urethane balls are around 125.

My guess would be the Urethane ball has a stronger core. I could be wrong though.

[75lockwood]

How do reactive balls like the Hammer Nail smoke and fire get a 137 and the Storm Tropical breeze get a 118 rating and urethane balls are around 125.

The thing to remember about reactive resin is that its a broad term, the difference between a nightmare and a slingshot is not just the core, they have different cover stocks. you can make a weak reactive resin cover stock like that on the Hammer Nail smoke and fire or a strong one like that on the HHR

Then you can get into Solids Pearls and Hybrid reactive Coverstocks.... its not as simple as you would think.

O and all covers start out with polyester, its what is then added that makes urethane, solid, hybrid, and pearl

While it is typically thought that reactive resin is stronger than urethane, there are exceptions to every rule.

[Hammer]

Roto Grip Wrecker, Storm Tropical Breeze Hybrid, Storm Natural Pearl, Ebonite Cyclone and Hammer Blue Hammer. The Blue has five different layouts so it can be adjusted to a lane condition you will use it on. Plus like all other balls you can hit it with a surface adjustment. So they all can be adjusted for more or less hook.