It's time for a new ball! [Archive]

v33dubfox

01-24-2013, 04:54 PM

Ok. It's time for a new ball for me. On medium to dry lanes, I'm ok right now with the Nexus Pearl and Wild Card (I know it's old :P). When I play on heavy oil lanes, I often have difficulties to get the ball hook. I am a low rev player (about 200-250 rpm). So, what I am looking for is a heavy oil ball with a sanded coverstock. I love Brunswick products but I am open minded.

What would be your suggestions?

Up to now, Aura Paranormal and DV8 Brutal Nightmware are my first choices. What would be yours?

unclemantis

01-24-2013, 04:57 PM

v33dubfox

01-24-2013, 05:02 PM

My Hammer Nail is made for those conditions but it also works very well on the oiler lanes as well.
Sorry but the Hammer website says that it is intended for medium to dry lanes.

unclemantis

01-24-2013, 05:07 PM

Sorry but the Hammer website says that it is intended for medium to dry lanes.

I know what the website says but it works well in the oiler conditions for me.

I throw at 9.5mph and around 12 to 14 revs. My ball is also a 13lb.

I would consult with your pro shop and see what they have to say. Feel free to click on my link in my sig to see the reaction that I get with it.

I don't have anything else to suggest. I am not a pro or a coach.

See what BILL has to say. I am sure he will chime in here soon enough though. :)

ZRock

01-24-2013, 06:02 PM

I think you're good to go with your initial suggestions!

unclemantis

01-24-2013, 06:10 PM

I think you're good to go with your initial suggestions!

You mean MY suggestions???

Greenday

01-24-2013, 06:46 PM

You mean MY suggestions???

Probably not. The Hammer Nail really isn't going to be any good for heavy oil lanes. You are throwing the ball pretty slowly so that may be why you are getting success with it, but throwing a 15mph ball, assuming the OP is around average, would only be able to throw a straight ball with that.

On Storm's website, they have a matchmaker page where you can input your info and it'll suggest a ball for you. The Virtual Gravity Nano Pearl probably wouldn't be a bad choice if you went Storm (But that's just by assuming a few things like speed, track, axis of rotation).

billf

01-24-2013, 06:46 PM

Aura Paranormal and DV8 Brutal Nightmare are good choices. So it the Motiv Raptor Talon.
For a now bargain heavy oil ball, the DV8 Hell Raiser Revenge is a monster in the oil.

unclemantis

01-24-2013, 06:55 PM

Probably not. The Hammer Nail really isn't going to be any good for heavy oil lanes. You are throwing the ball pretty slowly so that may be why you are getting success with it, but throwing a 15mph ball, assuming the OP is around average, would only be able to throw a straight ball with that.

On Storm's website, they have a matchmaker page where you can input your info and it'll suggest a ball for you. The Virtual Gravity Nano Pearl probably wouldn't be a bad choice if you went Storm (But that's just by assuming a few things like speed, track, axis of rotation).

For now I will stick with what my pro-shop recommends. So far he was spot on! Now if I can only keep consistent with my throws I should be OK!

Vince805

01-24-2013, 07:01 PM

For now I will stick with what my pro-shop recommends. So far he was spot on! Now if I can only keep consistent with my throws I should be OK!

Mine also recommended the dv8 brutal nightmare for me. im a low rev player also. with medium ball speed. I ordered the brutal nightmare the other day :-) Its polished i believe.

billf

01-24-2013, 07:04 PM

The Brutal Nightmare is considered polished but 500 grit with rough buff polish isn't the same as a real polished ball. It's just enough polish to clear the heads.

75lockwood

01-24-2013, 07:07 PM

Heavy oil Solids for that monster hook? lol

Out of curiosity, when you the nexus doesn't hook, where are you standing/aiming? the nexus should still be strong enough to hook regardless of the pearl cover.
You said you were a low rev bowler, do you know ball speed and approximate rev rate?

Heavy oil Balls that you can look at:
DV8 Nightmare, Brutal Nightmare (hybrid that will go longer than the original)
Brunswick Aura, Aura Paranormal
Storm Sync,
Motiv Raptor Talon
Hammer First Blood (hybrid)

@uncle, you are very rev dominate and what will work for you will not work for others, he said that he is having issues with the nexus hooking on heavy oil which is already a lot stronger than the nail

unclemantis

01-24-2013, 07:08 PM

Mine also recommended the dv8 brutal nightmare for me. im a low rev player also. with medium ball speed. I ordered the brutal nightmare the other day :-) Its polished i believe.

I will keep that in mind. For now my ball only has about 14 games on it. Come to think of it, according to Hammer, my ball is due for a polish. Explains why the ball looked a little lack luster yesterday in the track area. I am still waiting on a payment from a client. Once that comes in i will be buying Powerhouse Energizer Cleaner and Powerhouse Factory Finish Polish.

When the 30 game mark comes around I will have my pro-shop take care of the light sanding and polishing work considering I don't have a ball spinner.

75lockwood

01-24-2013, 07:09 PM

You know you take to long to post when there have been a half dozen posts since you started writing....... watching hockey will do that lol

unclemantis

01-24-2013, 07:12 PM

You know you take to long to post when there have been a half dozen posts since you started writing....... watching hockey will do that lol

The strike is over?

billf

01-24-2013, 07:19 PM

Pollish after 14 games? I would have to polish a minimum of twice a week.

unclemantis

01-24-2013, 07:27 PM

Pollish after 14 games? I would have to polish a minimum of twice a week.

Well that is what Hammer tells me. Here is a copy and paste.

Daily after Bowling – Oil-free Microfiber Towel combined with Powerhouse Energizer Cleaner.
Every 10 games – Polish the surface of the ball with a cotton towel and Powerhouse Factory Finish Polish.
Every 30 games – Lightly sand the surface of the ball with Abralon Pads, and re-polish with Powerhouse Factory Finish Polish. Use 4000 grit then apply factory finish.Every 60 games – Bowling ball due for a full resurface.
Every 100 games – Bowling ball due for a Powerhouse Hook Again service.

v33dubfox

01-24-2013, 07:36 PM

I forgot to say in the original post that I want a ball will hook soon, so low RG, high differential.

@75lockwood. According to what the screen says, my speed is around 16-17 mph (26kmh). I can say that I am "speed dominant" over revs. I know have have problems with that, turning the hand too soon so that I release the ball on the side/top of it. I am left handed, so I play it on the first arrow and I stand at the 2nd dot from the left. Kind of hard to explain. I'll try to get a video when I go practice.

billf

01-24-2013, 07:54 PM

That's easy to expain. You stand on 10 and target across the 5 board.
If that's the line you want to play in the heavy oil then any of the balls I mentioned will work.

v33dubfox

01-24-2013, 08:11 PM

When you count the boards, you start at the very first board on the left? I'll count that tonight.

Greenday

01-24-2013, 08:46 PM

When you count the boards, you start at the very first board on the left? I'll count that tonight.

If you are a lefty, the left most board is 1. If you are a righty, the right most board is 1.

billf

01-24-2013, 08:50 PM

The arrows are five boards apart and at most centers the dots align with the arrows (some don't have the dots on five). So as it goes left to right for a lefty and right to left for a righty. Oiling charts will say stuff like 18l 15r. That means the oil runs from the 18th board from the left to the 15th board from the right.

v33dubfox

01-24-2013, 11:32 PM

Ok that's it. I stand on the 10th board and the ball passes on the 5th (1st arrow). I play the same line with both balls I have

v33dubfox

01-25-2013, 07:38 PM

What abot the Storm Sync?

billf

01-25-2013, 07:41 PM

The Sync was mentioned by 75Lockwood. I didn't include it because I haven't tried one yet.

Greenday

01-25-2013, 10:31 PM

The Sync was mentioned by 75Lockwood. I didn't include it because I haven't tried one yet.

It's release date is Feb 5. But watching videos of people throw it...I WANT IT NOWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW

unclemantis

01-26-2013, 12:59 AM

The Sync was mentioned by 75Lockwood. I didn't include it because I haven't tried one yet.

I will stick with my Nail for now. Only been throwing it at a single house. I am going to try some dryer houses and see what's up.

v33dubfox

01-26-2013, 01:20 AM

The Sync compared to the Aura Paranormal:
Sync has a lower RG and higher differential. So, it will hook sooner, and that is what I want. What do you think?

Greenday

01-26-2013, 01:23 AM

I will sell my soul or whore myself out if anyone will give me a Sync...It'd be worth it, right? Right...?

billf

01-26-2013, 07:52 AM

The Sync compared to the Aura Paranormal:
Sync has a lower RG and higher differential. So, it will hook sooner, and that is what I want. What do you think?

Don't get too caught up in the numbers. They are for an undrilled ball. Once drilled they obviously change with the intermediate differential being the biggest change (and the most important to characteristic). As long as they are close in characteristics a proper drilling will create the same reaction for the same bowler.

Here's a great article that explains it by Mo Pinel http://wiki.bowlingchat.net/wiki/images/0/03/Differential-Mo_Pinel-Nov_10.pdf