Thoughts about the International Art of Bowling Frame by Frame Video Analysis

[unclemantis]

What are your thoughts about the Frame by Frame Video Analysis at the iabowing.com?

http://www.iabowling.com/landing/frame-by-frame-video-analysis/

Is it worth the $100 or should I find a local coach for $40?


http://youtu.be/fJWsCWlEWag

[billf]

Don't take this the wrong way as I mean no disrespect to anybody...until you're averaging 180 your money would be better spent on a local coach. Once you're there though, then I think the better coaches are well worth the money. At this point you have things you already know you need work on so why spend $100 to hear it again?

BTW, most if not all, of the better coaches do frame by frame analysis. What separates them is interpreting what they see and explaining it in a way that you can incorporate it into your game. IAB is a worldclass organization.

[GeoLes]

I don't know much about the video coach/ It looks very inviting, but I noticed that he is a gold level coach, which means he has a higher certification. That said, the quality of a good instructor lies not in his level of technical knowledge, rather his ability to convey it. I have gotten good basic instructiion from a gold level coach but the most brilliant and insightful instruction came from a coach at a 10-dollar-a-head group sesson. My point is "the bells and whistles" do not guarantee a quality effect.

[Tampabaybob]

$100.00 is a lot to spend for an average bowler. Most of the good coaches around the country are Bronze or at best silver level. One reason is that the Silver and gold level are SUPER expensive! I would have gone for the Silver level a long time ago if it weren't for the cost. I'm with Bill.
You can get a few coaching sessions with a good local coach, have hands on instruction, and get more bang for your buck. Now once you start averaging 200+ and if you find the need, then spend the extra $$$ to tweak your game. Most of the good coaches in my area are about $25 - $30 for an hour. A bit more if they video tape you. Try that first, and use the extra $$ to by new equipment.

[unclemantis]

Thanks a lot for the insights. I still have a lot to work on. I Keep telling my wife I need a coach and she says I am not ready yet. And you know? She is right! I drop into a slump and make the same mistakes.

I am doing better after I got the new ball though.

Maybe once I reach a steady 200 league average I will get a coach

[unclemantis]

League Stats:
League: Practice
Bowling Date: 01-28-2013

Score Ave: 170.22
Total Pins (Series): 1532
High Game: 212
Total Games: 9

First Roll Average: 9.01
Most Strikes in a Row: 4

Strike Percentage: 40.0%
Total Strikes: 40
Strike Chances: 100

Spare Percentage: 47.4%
Total Spares: 27
Spare Chances: 57

Single Pin Spares %: 52.9%
Single Pin Total: 18
Single Pin Chances: 34

Multi-Pin Spares %: 39.1%
Multi-Pin Total: 9
Multi-Pin Chances: 23

Multi-Pin Non-Split %: 52.9%
Multi Non-Split Total: 9
Multi Non-Split Chances: 17

Split Conversion %: 0.0%
Splits Picked Up: 0
Splits Attempted: 6

Open Frame %: 32.2%
Open Frames: 29
Total Frames: 90

[ecub]

The sooner you learn through a coach, the better. A coach will help you correct your mistakes. It's better to correct them early, before they become a habit. The coach will also help you mentally and physically.

[unclemantis]

The sooner you learn through a coach, the better. A coach will help you correct your mistakes. It's better to correct them early, before they become a habit. The coach will also help you mentally and physically.

I just bought the kindle book "The Game Changer: A simple system for improving your bowling scores". it is now on loan to my Wife's Kindle :-D

I guess spending $40 on a single coach session now to get the basics down pat is a good idea?

[billf]

A coach (We will assume a "good" coach for this scenario) can greatly reduce the time for the learning curve, teach you drills to improve consistency and give at the second correction/critique. It can be done without a coach but does take longer. And longer than that if you're trying to coach yourself.

[unclemantis]

A coach (We will assume a "good" coach for this scenario) can greatly reduce the time for the learning curve, teach you drills to improve consistency and give at the second correction/critique. It can be done without a coach but does take longer. And longer than that if you're trying to coach yourself.

I will hire one next week. Is there a website to find a good coach?

[billf]

Sure is http://membership.bowl.com/USBCsearch/SearchCoachesMain.jsp

[Greenday]

Yea, bowl.com is how I found my coach. They have coaches listed that are actually certified. While my average hasn't drastically improved since getting coaching, I've managed to change so many things in such a short times. It's only been about two and a half months and I've managed a lot of improvements. Went from a 4 step to 5 step which gave me a little more speed and more consistency. Finally learned how to throw a relaxed shot without muscling it. Slightly cupping the ball and not being on top of the ball when I throw. A lot of timing stuff. Plus my coach gave me my Storm Invasion for free since he's such a great guy. And he only charges me $40 for about an hour and a half or so of work which is good considering he's bronze level. He's also let me join him when he practices on sports shots and we just have fun throwing balls without charging me anything.

Getting a coach has added a fair amount of confidence to my game.

[unclemantis]

Just got done with a little Practice.
Bowled a 151, 114, 199, 168 for a 632 series!

Had trouble finding the pocket until 3Rd game.

I Hope the coach can help me adjust to a lane within 2 or 3 frames.

Check the bowling scores thread for my stats

[ecub]

An actual series is actually 3 games. :D

[ecub]

As far as help, try recording a video of your release from behind and maybe the side as well.

[unclemantis]

As far as help, try recording a video of your release from behind and maybe the side as well.

Kinda hard to video tape from the side when the house is PACKED

[ecub]

That is why I stated MAYBE in my previous post. But actually, it's not that difficult if you ask the person on the next lane over if you can wait. I'm sure they would for a shot or 2.

[unclemantis]

That is why I stated MAYBE in my previous post. But actually, it's not that difficult if you ask the person on the next lane over if you can wait. I'm sure they would for a shot or 2.

If that was the case I would feel rushed.

Maybe can reserve the end of the house lane and the one I am bowling on. Lanes 49 and 50.

[Greenday]

Had trouble finding the pocket until 3Rd game.

In what way were you having trouble? Missing your mark? Ball not hooking enough or hooking too much when you start out?

[ecub]

If that was the case I would feel rushed.

Maybe can reserve the end of the house lane and the one I am bowling on. Lanes 49 and 50.

Why would you feel rushed? Everyone is there to have fun. There's nothing wrong for asking. If they're adults, they would understand. I often let people record themselves on the lanes next to me. I've often done the recording.

[unclemantis]

In what way were you having trouble? Missing your mark? Ball not hooking enough or hooking too much when you start out?

All of the above. Then again this was late at night after the lanes have been burnt out.

[Greenday]

All of the above. Then again this was late at night after the lanes have been burnt out.

It's tough when it's burnt out. Not much you can do about that.

As far as hitting your mark, my best advice for that is to start your mark down until your ball goes beyond that point. It's helped me a lot. Also, today my coach had me stand at beginning of the lane and stare at my mark. Then he had me bend down at the knee and look at my mark. The lower I got, the closer the mark was to me. You also project the ball further down the lane when you get down lower.

[scottymoney]

Late practice on dry lanes I don't worry much on score I just go to try different things and see the reaction the ball gets. This allows me to have a sense of what I can do during league night when I need the more or less revs or when I need to move or change speeds.

This is also a great time to focus on spare shooting. I am working myself and throwing straight at spares instead of trying to use any hook at all which I currently do. It is so hard to rely on just that tad bit of hook, but it has been tough trying to roll it end over end straight after years of trying to add the revs.

[unclemantis]

Just got done with a little Practice. Bowled a 179, 153, 225, 213, 212, 200, 186 for a 1368 series!

League Stats: League: Practice Bowling Date: 01-31-2013

Score Ave: 195.43 Total Pins (Series): 1368 High Game: 225 Total Games: 7

First Roll Average: 8.83 Most Strikes in a Row: 4

Strike Percentage: 49.4% Total Strikes: 38 Strike Chances: 77

Spare Percentage: 64.1% Total Spares: 25 Spare Chances: 39

Single Pin Spares %: 81.8% Single Pin Total: 9 Single Pin Chances: 11

Multi-Pin Spares %: 57.1% Multi-Pin Total: 16 Multi-Pin Chances: 28

Multi-Pin Non-Split %: 73.7% Multi Non-Split Total: 14 Multi Non-Split Chances: 19

Split Conversion %: 22.2% Splits Picked Up: 2 Splits Attempted: 9

Open Frame %: 18.6% Open Frames: 13 Total Frames: 70

[Greenday]

What are you using to keep track of stats?

[unclemantis]

What are you using to keep track of stats?

Strike Out Stats (https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.bruno.myapps.strikeoutstats) by William Bruno (https://play.google.com/store/apps/developer?id=William+Bruno).

I found out about this through http://www.iabowling.com/2012/10/25/the-week-before-preparing-for-league/

I have been using it for a month and I have 3 words to say

I Love It!!!!

[billf]

Practicing on burnt up lanes is pretty useless unless that's all you plan to bowl on. Spare shooting is the same. Missing your mark on bone dry lanes is easy if you're trying to swing the ball out. High end balls need oil to skid and will often times start hooking before the arrows on dry lanes. They also affect how the ball rolls off the break point and through the pin deck.

[unclemantis]

Bowled on fresh oil this morning.

Just got done with a little Practice.
Bowled a 190, 182, 182, 146, 205 for a 905 series!

[Tampabaybob]

Bowled on fresh oil this morning.

Just got done with a little Practice.
Bowled a 190, 182, 182, 146, 205 for a 905 series!

I'm looking at your games, and your stats, and in particular the number of multi-pin spares you're leaving. Now you've been throwing some pretty good games, and that's great, so I have to "assume" that most of this multi-pin spares are in the lower scoring games. Here's what jumps out at me. On the games where you're leaving most of the multi pin spares, my bet is you're looking up a split second before releasing the ball, which means that you'll pull the ball left a lot. Tell me if I'm on track here, and in your better games you're nailing the target pretty much all 10 frames. If I'm correct in assuming this, so you can get more consistent, here's a couple of things to try.

1. ALWAY'S watch your ball roll over your target - remember you can't hit what you don't see !
2. From the second you get your target in focus, "DO NOT BLINK YOUR EYES UNTIL YOU RELEASE TH BALL" (take a bit
of getting used to but it helps)
3. Each time you're waiting for your ball to return, you should be 100% focused on what your next shot target is going
to be, and Blocking out all sights and sounds around you, enabling you to get into a zone.
4. Watching the path of the ball AFTER it hits your target. The ball path will tell you tons of information as to how and
where it's going to react. This info is used for the next shot on that lane.

Try these tips, and try to get your first ball pocket percentage up there so you're leave less multi pin spares. Those spares are the hardest to convert (more misses) and will cost you pin count in the end as well. Good luck & let me know if this helped.