why my coach is awesome

[noeymc]

i sent him a email with a problem about cupping my wrist and i am pulling it some times ( i think i am squeezing it with my fingers but) he respounded the next day with a great response i think it made it click a little bit


It is true that if your arm muscles are tense because of cupping the wrist, your swing will not be as loose and you will tend to pull the ball. Another possibility is that, if you are turning your hand during the release in addition to cupping your wrist, the ball will naturally go left of target. (You can demonstrate this while sitting at your computer without a bowling ball. Cup your wrist and turn your hand, and you will see that your hand is left of your arm.) I would suggest experimenting with keeping the arm as loose as possible while cupping...and with rotating the hand as little as possible while cupping. Also, cupping less may help with either problem, while still giving you a higher rev rate. Let me know how it goes, and we can certainly work on this on the 22nd.

Thanks...

-Tom

On Thu, Jan 31, 2013 at 12:41 AM, noah mcmillan REMOVED MY EMAIL wrote:
Hey just checking in wanted to make sure Friday feb 22 at 11 is still a good time also i have a question and i am not sure if you can help me thur email but i have started to cup my wrist to work on adding more revs but i seem to be pulling the ball i believe its me squeezing the ball is that a mind over matter thing or is there some secert to it if you are able to help me with that id really appreciate it thanks

Noah

[Tampabaybob]

Sounds like you've found a good coach. Stick with him.

[noeymc]

yeah he coaches a pba pro also =D but he's a really good guy the first time i went i brought 150 dollars not knowing how much itd be he gave me like a 2 hour session with him free i paid 5 bucks for lane time =D hes a cool dude

[unclemantis]

I don't mean to troll, but I wanted to chime in that I just got in touch with a local coach and he replied back in an email a list of questions that I did reply back to. Wish me luck that this coach is just as cool as yours!

[noeymc]

I don't mean to troll, but I wanted to chime in that I just got in touch with a local coach and he replied back in an email a list of questions that I did reply back to. Wish me luck that this coach is just as cool as yours!

for sure man i dont think he could be AS cool but i am sure he could be cool :cool::cool::cool::cool:

[unclemantis]

for sure man i dont think he could be AS cool but i am sure he could be cool :cool::cool::cool::cool:

Sweet. Well I have not heard back from him. I don't have the money this weekend but I will sometime mid week next week. I am sure it will be money well spent. He uses cameras and stuff

[noeymc]

Sweet. Well I have not heard back from him. I don't have the money this weekend but I will sometime mid week next week. I am sure it will be money well spent. He uses cameras and stuff

yeah it is well worth it i came back to bowling after 4-6 year break and didnt realize how much i forgot and how much i wasn't doing he fixed 3 things and my forum got better just lesson to what he says dont be hard headed =D

[unclemantis]

You bet! He is the pro and I am the client

[Tampabaybob]

Speaking from a coaches point of view, many times we see things we'd like to change on a bowler, but we have to consider what level the bowler is at, and what the most important things to work on first, that will show almost immediate results. When you find a good coach stick with him/her because lesson #2, 3, 4, 5, etc, they're going to work on more advanced techniques they couldn't tell you at the beginning. As you progress, there will be many small "tricks" that the coach may impart on you to help you to make small adjustments while you're bowling. Good luck to both of you and let us know how things are going.

[billf]

Noah, now you know why "early turn" is such a prevalent issue with bowlers.

The coach and bowler relationship reminds me of boxer shorts. You have to keep trying them on at times to find the right fit. I've had Gold coaches that I didn't mesh with and others that fit me well. Sometimes coaches are not as adaptable to a bowler as we would like.

Bob, I've found this true with kids also. As long as I tell them what steps I will teach them later, they practice more.

[wolf army soldier]

I've been going through this forum for about 1/2 hour and this is the most recent thread for coaches. I bowl twice a week and average about 160, but I'm struggling and want to learn a new technique. I checked the bowl.com site for "finding a coach" and the nearest one to me is 50 miles! If gas wasn't so expensive I might think about it, however---I do know someone who carries about a 209 average--and used to own/manage etc a bowling alley for many years. I would offer to compensate him for his time, but would it be advantageous for me to use him? On a different thread he was the person who told me my dv8 had been drilled for a left hander. I throw right and somewhere between a straight ball and a slight backup--so I went back to my Tropical storm. Anyway--should I pick his brain ?

[Greenday]

I've been going through this forum for about 1/2 hour and this is the most recent thread for coaches. I bowl twice a week and average about 160, but I'm struggling and want to learn a new technique. I checked the bowl.com site for "finding a coach" and the nearest one to me is 50 miles! If gas wasn't so expensive I might think about it, however---I do know someone who carries about a 209 average--and used to own/manage etc a bowling alley for many years. I would offer to compensate him for his time, but would it be advantageous for me to use him? On a different thread he was the person who told me my dv8 had been drilled for a left hander. I throw right and somewhere between a straight ball and a slight backup--so I went back to my Tropical storm. Anyway--should I pick his brain ?

Maybe try asking your local alleys if they know any coaches? Sometimes, guys don't list themselves through the USBC website because they just don't want to pay for all the certifications and waste their time sitting in on classes.

[noeymc]

yes normally 200+ avg bowlers figured a lot out but they could get you into a bad habit i dont think it would hurt you to pick his brain i talk to anyone about bowling and try to learn something new all the time

[wolf army soldier]

There is only one bowling alley in town. 2nd nearest one is 35mi away. The TN state tournaments are starting and while my time isn't til March I don't want to start trying something new til after that.

[noeymc]

u said u avg 160? i dont think much can make you worse and 30 games of doing something and you can own it its yours =D u no how to do it as long as u are doing it right

[J Anderson]

I've been going through this forum for about 1/2 hour and this is the most recent thread for coaches. I bowl twice a week and average about 160, but I'm struggling and want to learn a new technique. I checked the bowl.com site for "finding a coach" and the nearest one to me is 50 miles! If gas wasn't so expensive I might think about it, however---I do know someone who carries about a 209 average--and used to own/manage etc a bowling alley for many years. I would offer to compensate him for his time, but would it be advantageous for me to use him? On a different thread he was the person who told me my dv8 had been drilled for a left hander. I throw right and somewhere between a straight ball and a slight backup--so I went back to my Tropical storm. Anyway--should I pick his brain ?

I just checked BOWL.com for my area and found that at least four certified coaches are not listed. I believe that because of privacy issues coaches have to request being listed on the site. Since I'm only doing it as a volunteer for the youth league I never bothered to register.

Your best bet is probably just asking around at your local center.

[Tampabaybob]

I've been going through this forum for about 1/2 hour and this is the most recent thread for coaches. I bowl twice a week and average about 160, but I'm struggling and want to learn a new technique. I checked the bowl.com site for "finding a coach" and the nearest one to me is 50 miles! If gas wasn't so expensive I might think about it, however---I do know someone who carries about a 209 average--and used to own/manage etc a bowling alley for many years. I would offer to compensate him for his time, but would it be advantageous for me to use him? On a different thread he was the person who told me my dv8 had been drilled for a left hander. I throw right and somewhere between a straight ball and a slight backup--so I went back to my Tropical storm. Anyway--should I pick his brain ?

First of all "Welcome to the Boards". We have lots of bowlers here with years of experience that are more than willing to offer advice and tips to help you improve your game.

To answer your question, sure, introduce yourself to that higher average bowler and ask him if he has some time one day to maybe help you out with some coaching. You can ask him if he charges to coach and if he says no, at least offer to pay for his games. Many guys are happy to offer assistance. Don't be afraid about changing anything before your tournament. It may help you get higher scores and with a lower average going in, it gives you a better chance to cash. One thing you can work on that will immediately get your scores up is to increase your accuracy on your spares. If you do get a chance to work with someone ask them to help you with spares. Also, if you can, submit a video of you bowling, only need 3 or 4 frames, and we'll get some input for you to help you out.

[mxjosh]

My coach is not listed on any site. I was introduced to him by the secretary of my very first league. I had already seen him bowl before and knew he was incredibly skilled but did not know he was a coach. On a side note, not all good bowlers are good coaches.

I've also received a ton of help from pro shop operators. I showed interest in learning and they really enjoyed giving advice or coming to watch me bowl when the shop had some down time. I can walk in anytime they are not busy and ask questions. Not all of them are as helpful or give advice freely when asked but doesn't hurt to "talk" bowling with pro shop guys.

One of the pro shop guys was Tony Reyes. Had I known how good he was and that he gave lessons, I would have used him more. But he passed away a month or so after my first lesson.