Transition help

[snugbucco]

Hi guys, its been awhile since iv been on this forum cause of work and other parts of life. Reason im posting this is because im having a hard time transitioning. My ball speed is about 16.5 mph with medium to high rev rate I stand with the inner part of my left foot at board 19 and I try to run the ball up board 11 and let it break in the pocket. But after awhile of bowling that line depending on how the oil broke down my ball either hits the pins too low from oil moving down the line OR it bites from no oil being there. I know of the 2-1 board aiming ratio but if i move just one board to the left, to board 20 should I throw the ball with the same speed, rev rate and wrist angle as i was using? and since i moved only one board to the left should i continue to roll it up board 11 or should it start about 11 1/2 and work its way slowly into the line to enter the breakpoint????

I'm using a Motiv 2 cruel drilled pretty aggressive by the way.

[J Anderson]

Hi guys, its been awhile since iv been on this forum cause of work and other parts of life. Reason im posting this is because im having a hard time transitioning. My ball speed is about 16.5 mph with medium to high rev rate I stand with the inner part of my left foot at board 19 and I try to run the ball up board 11 and let it break in the pocket. But after awhile of bowling that line depending on how the oil broke down my ball either hits the pins too low from oil moving down the line OR it bites from no oil being there. I know of the 2-1 board aiming ratio but if i move just one board to the left, to board 20 should I throw the ball with the same speed, rev rate and wrist angle as i was using? and since i moved only one board to the left should i continue to roll it up board 11 or should it start about 11 1/2 and work its way slowly into the line to enter the breakpoint????

I'm using a Motiv 2 cruel drilled pretty aggressive by the way.

If you only move your feet, you're moving the break point further out. The main thing with dealing with transition is that you want to keep the break point about the same. So yes, if you move your feet one board, then you move your target 1/2 board. Most likely this isn't enough of a move to get out of the burned patch of lane. That's why most people talk about moving 2 and 1 or more.

As for changing speed or rev rate, its great that you can do it, because sooner or later you'll hit a lane where where you will need all those tricks to get lined up. But once you're lined up you want to make one simple adjustment at a time and keep every thing else the same.

[Flyer41]

I agree with J, just moving your feet left and your target accordingly to keep the same break point is usually the ideal course of action when lanes start to break down. It's all about keeping your ball in the oil that you got lined up with in the first place, so you also have to pay attention if someone is playing slightly left of you, you might have to hop them and get even farther left than you normally would.

[Tampabaybob]

Keep in mind, that with these newer balls, carry down is almost a thing of the past. I think what your describing is the movement of the oil, and when its drying up. For instance, lets say you're starting at your normal position (as stated) and your "break point down the lane is the nine board (one board left of the last hash mark ). [I]"IF" you have some one targeting to the left of where you're shooting AND his break point is further right than where yours is, then what you're going to experience is the oil moving into your target area from the other person. Now assume for a minute that there were 3 or 4 guys shooting that deeper inside shot and now they're really screwing up your shot. They're drying up their area and moving oil across to your area at the same time. So if that happens, now all of sudden (maybe in as little as 4 or 5 frames, where you're ball was hooking at the break point and hitting the pocket, your ball is now hitting oil that initially wasn't there and your ball, all of a sudden, is not coming up to the pocket ! I had this exact scenario happen to me last Thursday in league and wherever I tried to move my ball would not react. Went to my "DRY R" (Brunswick) ball the last game, started throwing straight up the 5 board and final pulled a decent game out. This is a tough situation to be in. IF, you can see this happen, or IF you can anticipate this happening, watch where they're shooting and shoot the same line AND then follow them as they move in or out so you can stay near the edge of the oil.

Hope that rant makes sense. This a problem for many bowlers that are strokers or tweeners that can't go deep inside and belly the ball out to the 5 board at the break point and have the ball snap back. Those crankers are always going to mess up the shot by the second game and moving the oil onto you ball path. It's up to you to figure out a way around it. Good luck.

[noeymc]

2 feet one board or 4 feet 2 boards are the most common

[Tampabaybob]

2 feet one board or 4 feet 2 boards are the most common

I hope you mean 2 "boards on the approach" and 1 "board on the lane (target). Moving 4 feet may put you into the next lanes' approach ! LOL

[noeymc]

yeah sorry should had cleared that up better =D

[Big Nick]

Here's the adjustments I make. If the ball is coming in heavy on the head pin, then I move my feet a board or two to the left (I'm a right-hander). Since I don't like chasing a shot back to the left, if the ball starts come in light, I try to alter my axis rotation a little to get the ball to turn a little harder off the break point. In the leagues that I currently bowl in, I rarely have to change my aim point. However, when it does happen, I'll only change my aim after moving more than two boards any direction.

[noeymc]

Here's the adjustments I make. If the ball is coming in heavy on the head pin, then I move my feet a board or two to the left (I'm a right-hander). Since I don't like chasing a shot back to the left, if the ball starts come in light, I try to alter my axis rotation a little to get the ball to turn a little harder off the break point. In the leagues that I currently bowl in, I rarely have to change my aim point. However, when it does happen, I'll only change my aim after moving more than two boards any direction.

how many people bowl on your line how close u are to the middle of the lane u are play a big effect into why u might not need to ever move

[Tampabaybob]

noeymc makes a good point about how many people are using the same line. If several of your teammates (and opponents) are shooting the same area, that area will dry out faster than say if you're bowling in a mixed league and many of the bowlers are shooting straight down the middle. If you only have to make a couple of small adjustments, like you say, it sounds as though you're on a good house shot without having to share that same target area too much. But your moves are good.

[UBowling]

The 2-1 movement is just a guide to general adjustments. And that is only for angular moves. I move one board with my feet and keep the same target all the time. If you are dealing with transition, you will probably need to adjust more than just one board though. Typically I have to change balls or move close to 3-5 boards to get a good line.