900 Global Ball Comparison. Need Feedback

[TCJ]

So after this summer, I'll be getting a new ball since the PBA Experience league gives a gift certificate for the pro shop at the end of the season. I've decided I'll go with 900 Global, but I want some opinions on the following four balls and how they compare to each other:

1. Black Eagle

2. War Eagle

3. Train

4. Freight Train

Thanks!

[striker12]

i can tell you this i got the 900 global the nuts and it is a very hard ball to read because it gose down the lane so far then makes a move and sometimes the move is not enough for for me 900 global i did not like this in the ball and i was looking at videos and i have found from other brands weaker balls are stronger then the strong balls from 900 global.

like for example: the bullet train. i found that the Meanstreak brawler is more aggressive then it but due to bowlingball.com the bullet train was higher on the perfect scale.

but if you like 900 global stuff and if it works for you that's great but just saying that the stuff never really works for me at all.

[TCJ]

Actually, that sounds like what I want. I'm not looking for a super strong ball since it's for two-handed.

[striker12]

no i mean the meanstreak brawler is a snappy backend and give more move where the bullet train was a arc but a slow arc that abrly hooked.

the nuts its a every late hook and it would eather not hook or over hook even with a 1 board change.

[got_a_300]

I just can not get behind Global 900 equipment from what
I've seen out of it from other bowlers that are throwing it.

All I've ever seen was a more or less inconstant hook out of
their equipment from the bowlers throwing them around here
and so not a lot of bowlers throws their equipment here anymore.

[TCJ]

Thanks for all the criticisms, but is there anyone who can actually give me a comparison of the four balls I listed?

[striker12]

i dont think anyone on the boards here ever throws 900 global they stuck with other brands i have only thrown 1 900 global ball and i have only seen the freight train thrown by someone and he throw it slower then me and i can still get more move out of mine.

soo best thing i can say is dont go with 900 global.

but if anything email 900 global and see if they can send you comparison chart of all the balls and take a look at them and if you dont under stand it abit talk to a proshop.

[CeKnauss]

A pro I know in Blackwell, OK (Chris Lucas) is with 900 Global and he loves their equipment. I can't say that I know a whole lot about the balls you listed, but I know he was using a Dirty Look and Bank Roll at the Oklahoma State Tournament this year. He had a Train or Freight Train with him, but he didn't end up using it as far as I know.

900 Global has been targeting the Eagle series toward bowlers planning on participating at the USBC Open Championships. They often design those with a specific goal in mind.

The Train series has a stronger coverstock, but a more mild symmetric core to make the ball more continuous and less snappy in the backend.

900 Global is not known for long, snappy balls. They tend to lean more toward midlane and/or continuation through the pin deck. Most people don't use them likely because they prefer the "hockey stick" ball motion. They are also no longer registered with the PBA, so you won't be seeing them on TV anymore.

Hope this helps!

[billf]

Sorry but I haven't used any of the balls listed to be able to give an opinion.
However, after hearing that they don't general use the hockey stick shaped hook pattern, I may have to try some.

[Stormed1]

The war Eagle and Black Eagle are both basically a remake of the Break/[Break/Break out and are good medium th medium heavy balls depending on your ball speed and rev rate.I havenot thrown them but have had 6 of the Break series and my stuff made irtual Gravitys look likr straight balls in the oil. I have not thrown any of the Train series as i don't see enough oil for that strong of a cover. When I had my Bank Roll i had it polished like a piece of glass and was still in the left gutter on the freshj

[MICHAEL]

I purchased the Freight Train for my wife as a Christmas present! She a pretty good bowler, that can throw 220's on a given day but her average is around 165-175 depending on which league. She has the Manic/Cyclone/Fire Road. I was hoping that the Freight Train would be her go to ball, but its turns out to be her weakest one! She keeps giving it a try but no snap at the end like all three of the other balls. I know this is not a fair evaluation of the ball, maybe it was drilled too weak,,, I going to take it back to the pro shop and try to find out why, (even off her hands, its seems not to have the revolutions the other balls have. Some might say it burning up, believe me I have tried polish and 4000 surface, still weak into the pocket.

[striker12]

I purchased the Freight Train for my wife as a Christmas present! She a pretty good bowler, that can throw 220's on a given day but her average is around 165-175 depending on which league. She has the Manic/Cyclone/Fire Road. I was hoping that the Freight Train would be her go to ball, but its turns out to be her weakest one! She keeps giving it a try but no snap at the end like all three of the other balls. I know this is not a fair evaluation of the ball, maybe it was drilled too weak,,, I going to take it back to the pro shop and try to find out why, (even off her hands, its seems not to have the revolutions the other balls have. Some might say it burning up, believe me I have tried polish and 4000 surface, still weak into the pocket.

ice man i have seen this same thing out of most of my stuff my freeze i can put more revs on it then anything else but then my brother has a DV8 nightmare and i got a DV8 hell raiser revenge and i threw both HRR and nightmare and i could get the HRR to rev not a problem but when i threw the nightmare it would have no rev.

i talked to a staff member of DV8 and he said it could be that if a ball is not reving properly down the lane even on oil it could be possible that the core has came loser and is moving giving you a off balanced ball making it wrong rev right" that's from the DV8 staffer"

[billf]

Pin to PAP distance plays a large role in how easily a ball will rev up. While a loose core can cause this issue it isn't likely on a newer ball or a ball that revs for another bowler.

Mike, the other balls you listed that your wife has are of the skid/flip design which would have a straighter down lane path then a sharper break down lane. The Freight Train, in my understanding, would have more of a controlled, arcing hook. Definitely have James or Bruce check the drilling but it may also partly be ball design.

[TCJ]

I'm intending to use my [future] new ball for two-handed which means I don't necessarily want a heavy hook. Currently I use an inferno (drilled for a continuous roll rather than a snap) as my main two-handed ball and I've no problems getting plenty of curve on it. Something like the Black Eagle (which by all accounts seems to have more snap to it) would probably help out for playing more straight up and having a hard direction change at the pocket, which is one reason I was considering it.

Also, I'm going with 900 Global because I want to try a new company. I have Brunswick, Storm, Columbia, and RotoGrip. It's time for something new. Yes, I'm strange that way.

[billf]

It's not strange. Each of us is different just as each manufacturer's balls react differently. How would you know what works best for you if you didn't try? Good luck, I hope it works out for you!