Whats the highest individual and team handicap youve seen?

[e-tank]

This isnt normally something i pay attention to too much but this last sunday the team we played had a team handicap of 450 and a high individual handicap of 146

I thought it was pretty crazy. What about you guys?

[DLP]

If the team was made of people who stink like me... you better believe its possible :)

[Perrin]

never seen 146 but if you were doing 90-100% of 250 I could see that happening.

[classygranny]

On my Friday morning league we do 100% of 230. We have several "handicapped" gents that average below 100, so if their average was say 84, they would have a 146 handicap. We do have a team that I know we give about 250-300 pins a game to, so I see it being possible. Especially if the handicap is based on 240 or more.

[e-tank]

If the team was made of people who stink like me... you better believe its possible :)

yea they were pretty bad. Theyre new bowlers though and both teams had fun


never seen 146 but if you were doing 90-100% of 250 I could see that happening.

we do 90% of 210. Her avg is 46 with a high game of 64

[Hampe]

Wow.....the handicap for most leagues or tournaments here is 60% of 200, and capped at 40.

[Tampabaybob]

yeah, that can be a problem. If you're a decent bowler you need to find a league with higher averages. It's true that statistically, the higher average bowlers/teams will always come out on top, but you have to remember one thing. If you're averaging 180 and shoot a 190 game you've just shot over your average, but if that guy averaging 64 shoots a 100 game....you're in trouble. He has more room to improve than you likely, do and that can be frustrating.

[classygranny]

yeah, that can be a problem. If you're a decent bowler you need to find a league with higher averages. It's true that statistically, the higher average bowlers/teams will always come out on top, but you have to remember one thing. If you're averaging 180 and shoot a 190 game you've just shot over your average, but if that guy averaging 64 shoots a 100 game....you're in trouble. He has more room to improve than you likely, do and that can be frustrating.

I love my Friday morning league, although a lot of the bowlers are older and/or handicapped and carry lower averages. It is 100% handicap and believe me - if you are a decent bowler you have to stay focused and on your game to win. Rather than slacking off because you are around a few lower averages, you have to compete harder - in my opinion. There are enough higher average bowlers as well, that you also have to compete against so it actually tends to be a very competitive league for me.

[JPbowl]

yeah, that can be a problem. If you're a decent bowler you need to find a league with higher averages. It's true that statistically, the higher average bowlers/teams will always come out on top, but you have to remember one thing. If you're averaging 180 and shoot a 190 game you've just shot over your average, but if that guy averaging 64 shoots a 100 game....you're in trouble. He has more room to improve than you likely, do and that can be frustrating.

Yep, this is where a minimum average rule is useful, For a senior citizen or kids 'fun time' leagues its fine not to have a minimum.
But when you get into a league where its relatively competitive, if you can't average 150 than you should re-think which league your going to join.
It's way to easy to have a new bowler come in with a 80 avg and end up dominating the league and still only end on a 140 avg.

'It's true that statistically, the higher average bowlers/teams will always come out on top'
I'll have to check your data, my experience yields the opposite result. even the past 2 years our 36wk league has been won by handcap (players avg 130-180)

[e-tank]

yeah, that can be a problem. If you're a decent bowler you need to find a league with higher averages. It's true that statistically, the higher average bowlers/teams will always come out on top, but you have to remember one thing. If you're averaging 180 and shoot a 190 game you've just shot over your average, but if that guy averaging 64 shoots a 100 game....you're in trouble. He has more room to improve than you likely, do and that can be frustrating.

It doesnt bother me too much as this isnt a super serious league and the whole point of it is to go to vegas at the end. Theres still some very good teams in the league though. I can see your point and i have done it to teams in the past where ill have a higher handicap and somehow avg 240 for the night scratch

[billf]

I usually don't pay much attention to the handicaps. Shoot your average or better and chances are you will win. That's what I like about my scratch league, no handicap worries.

[GoodGravy]

We have a great time at our Adult/Youth league with handicaps. There are a ton of kids ( and some adults) who are over 140+. We bowled against a youngster last week that had a 146...Of course, as with all kids, he got hot and hit a couple of doubles and ended up scoring a 120 scratch.....needless to say, even though we tried to keep up, we lost that game :-)