Drill pattern

[DLP]

Thought I'd share.

Here is the drill pattern on the Fringe. Pin was moved to be beneath the middle finger to enhance the reverse hook. The yellow line indicates where my oil track is, became very visible after bowling on fresh oil last night.

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Going to try and hold off drilling the new ball until I determine this is the way I want to go. Problem is, it's going to be sitting in the box calling my name. I understand, the Diva has quite an attitude.

[Hampe]

I know it's hard, but be patient.

It's better to be sure and only have to drill the ball once instead of 2-3 times :).

[Tampabaybob]

Donna, I agree with you and Paul. Wait and see if this drilling will give you the reaction you want then maybe have him give you a bit of a different pattern for the DIVA. It looks as though this pattern will give you an earlier roll to the ball. With the DIVA maybe you'd want a little bit later hook with the ball for when the lanes dry up. Check with your coach and see what he suggests also. From what I've seen with the DIVA....you'll like the reaction of the ball.

[DLP]

Coach thinks the same, and Pro has some ideas but we're holding off as well.

Working with my coach again tonight so going to work on the timing issue and also zeroing in on the whole backup ball thing. Luckily enough he bowls both left and right handed so he can at least convey how to play the left side of the lane clearly enough.

[dnhoffman]

Been holding off drilling an IQ tour for a month because I can't decide pin up out or below :(

[Tampabaybob]

Coach thinks the same, and Pro has some ideas but we're holding off as well.

Working with my coach again tonight so going to work on the timing issue and also zeroing in on the whole backup ball thing. Luckily enough he bowls both left and right handed so he can at least convey how to play the left side of the lane clearly enough.

Donna, ask him about a "4 x 4 x 2" drilling for that ball and see what he says. It's a standard drilling for Storm/Rotogrip that I use on my Shatter. It goes very long (straighter) and then hooks sharp at the end. It creates whats called a skid/snap reaction. (Good enough to throw a 300 a month after getting the ball !) Curious to know what he thinks.

[DLP]

Actually it's the long straight and (while I wouldn't call it sharp) reverse hooking I actually got to tonight. A 163 came of that :) Hate to say it but right down the middle of the lane, aiming at the 17-18 board (between 3rd and 4th arrow on the right side). If it didn't hit the 1-2 pocket or the 1-3 (can we say B-R-O-O-K-L-Y-N) then I wasn't rolling over my mark. I could repeat this over and over and over again and was able to know immediately when it didn't go right where I wanted it to go.

Being that I found out one of the lady's seniors just took a tournament yesterday with a 298 bowling a reverse hook, there is a lot of support in house for not changing!!
I am glad of this as the little "niggle beast" rears it's ugly head once in awhile and insists that I'm doing it wrong. I just have to remind myself that unless I'm landing gutter balls constantly or planting the ball in the ceiling tile, there is no WRONG just room for improvement!

I'll have to ask about the drill pattern. May tinker with it at some point in the future. Pro had a 13# Columbia 300 Freeze Solid show up, so I may be able to get another ball to experiment with. He's re-drilled it numerous times for the lady who has had it but she isn't happy with it at all. Has a different ball-reaction than what the Fringe so it will be new territory for me!

And grats on the 300 :)

[Tampabaybob]

Donna, good shooting on the 163 !! I'm a little confused by what you said though. "Hate to say it but right down the middle of the lane, aiming at the 17-18 board (between 3rd and 4th arrow on the right side). If it didn't hit the 1-2 pocket or the 1-3 (can we say B-R-O-O-K-L-Y-N) then I wasn't rolling over my mark. I could repeat this over and over and over again and was able to know immediately when it didn't go right where I wanted it to go."

I though you had said you were bowling from the 'left' side of the lane with your back-up ball (sorry -reverse hook ! LOL) IF you're shooting that deep inside, you're playing in the heaviest part of the oil on the lane, which of course, is going to make your ball slide further, lose roll, etc. Am I reading this correctly just having another Senior moment ?

[DLP]

Not a senior moment... and yes going through the heaviest part of the oil....Only difference... when I bowled Friday, Saturday, and Sunday it was in fresh oil. Last night wasn't on fresh oil. Is that an adjustment I have to watch for based on oil conditions?

Stand straddling the 20, aim at the 17-18, ball goes onto the left side of the lane and hooks right into the 1-2 pocket.

I was bowling from the left side of the lane previously (my 15-something from last week) but I couldn't repeat it to save my life last night.

[Tampabaybob]

Ok, then it was probably a very good move. Just wanted to check ! I can cancel my Geriologists appt now !! LOL

[Greenday]

We have a backup bowler in my cash doubles league. His average is around 210 (I think). Bowled a 300 this week. The way he reacted, I thought it was his first. I asked his dad and he told me he has a bunch of 300s already (30-something of them). It's quite possible to bowl successfully with a backup. This guy is living proof of it.

[Tampabaybob]

There you go Donna, Living proof that a very good back-up (reverse hook) bowler exists !!!!

[DLP]

Oh I know they exist!
They're just a rare breed and should be considered a protected species :P

[DLP]

Hoping I can go into leagues tomorrow night with the timing change I made tonight.

Worked on delaying my push-away to get better control at release tonight at a party we went to.

First game: 83
Second game: 170

Nothing like practicing in cosmic conditions :D

[dnhoffman]

Nice bowling!

[DLP]

Because I just don't toss the ball down the lane anymore and hope it hits, I've found that oil conditions have a major impact on my starting point. Got a chance to throw a few games today...

I found out the house shot at the lanes I bowl at is a 40ft (I think the Pro said it's 36'5" with a taper out to 40'). I knew tonight was fresh oil, so I tried the whole down the 17/18 board - nope not gonna happen. Started moving two boards at a time to the left and ended up back up at my old friend the 35 board. When I was throwing when it "just felt right" I was watching the ball hit the end of the oil pattern, speed up and just roll beautifully into the 1-2 pocket.

I know buried inside somewhere there is a 200 game ..... I feel it :)

[Tampabaybob]

you're right the 200 is aching to get out ! Just wondering why you started so far inside the heavy oil to begin with. When you start that deep inside you're in the "Heaviest part of the oil" & that will make your ball slide more. I always recommend that you start off in the comfort zone you're used to, and then make your moves from there.

BTW official kick off date is tomorrow !! See you there ?

[Greenday]

you're right the 200 is aching to get out ! Just wondering why you started so far inside the heavy oil to begin with. When you start that deep inside you're in the "Heaviest part of the oil" & that will make your ball slide more. I always recommend that you start off in the comfort zone you're used to, and then make your moves from there.

BTW official kick off date is tomorrow !! See you there ?

I'd imagine playing that straight up you'd lose a lot of pin action. Plus the ball would be fighting heavy oil for too long so it won't get a chance to really start it's hooking motion.

[Tampabaybob]

Ben, exactly what I was getting at. Any time you're that deep, your ball is going to slide many, many feet before starting to hook. By being in that far I'd guess she wasn't getting very many true rotations on the ball and I know she's not a cranker.

[DLP]

you're right the 200 is aching to get out ! Just wondering why you started so far inside the heavy oil to begin with. When you start that deep inside you're in the "Heaviest part of the oil" & that will make your ball slide more. I always recommend that you start off in the comfort zone you're used to, and then make your moves from there.

BTW official kick off date is tomorrow !! See you there ?

Because when I worked with my coach on Wed of last week, that ball was doing anything BUT what I wanted it to when throwing it down the left side of the lane. So we moved. and kept moving to the right until my sweet spot showed up (where I was most consistent) at least for that session, which was down the middle.

And ayup - see ya there :)

[Tampabaybob]

Donna...... "IT'S THE FINAL COUNTDOWN !!!!" Check it out, I didn't know it was going to be there !