video of my bowling

[noeymc]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vKQBO7ynNI4

so i am not sure whats going on there may be something wrong with the camera idk ill have to look into it more

these are a few shots and all input is welcome its hard to tell tho

[vdubtx]

First thing I noticed was your timing is off. You take your first step and then push the ball away. My suggestion is to push ball away and step at same time. This will give you better timing.

Just my $.02 watching the first 2 segments. :cool:

[MICHAEL]

Nice video, some great angles... your delivery looked good to this untrained eye! Looks like your throwing the lucid??

[noeymc]

Nice video, some great angles... your delivery looked good to this untrained eye! Looks like your throwing the lucid??

naa roto grip scream

[J Anderson]

Hard to tell with some of the angles but generally it does look like you're late getting the ball into the swing but timing looks almost right at the top of the back swing.

I'm not sure if this has any effect but you stand up as you start walking.

[noeymc]

First thing I noticed was your timing is off. You take your first step and then push the ball away. My suggestion is to push ball away and step at same time. This will give you better timing.

Just my $.02 watching the first 2 segments. :cool:

not to sure my timing is off but it may very well be i try not to mess with that unless i am with my coach thanks for the feedback =D


Hard to tell with some of the angles but generally it does look like you're late getting the ball into the swing but timing looks almost right at the top of the back swing.

I'm not sure if this has any effect but you stand up as you start walking.

hmm i am not sure if that does affect anything hmmm lol

[Terrier]

Hard to tell with some of the angles but generally it does look like you're late getting the ball into the swing but timing looks almost right at the top of the back swing.

I'm not sure if this has any effect but you stand up as you start walking.I saw the timing comments, as well. Despite the big delay between the first step and the pushaway, the armswing catches up. It looks like that first step is slower than the others, but it's a little hard to see with the video. Other than that, it seems you're keeping the balance hand out and shoulders pointed at the target. You look familiar with "DYDS," too.

I noticed that the ball goes behind your back a little, which coaches say is something to avoid. You can try moving left on steps 2 and 3 in order to fix it. I'm not entirely convinced that it needs fixing, though. Maybe that's another thing to discuss with your coach.

[Mike White]

For a right handed bowler, when the ball reaches the bottom of the back swing, your weight should be on your right foot.
When the ball reaches the bottom of the forward swing, your weight should be on your left foot.

When the ball reaches the bottom of your backswing, your weight is on your left foot.

Your timing is off by a whole step.

[noeymc]

For a right handed bowler, when the ball reaches the bottom of the back swing, your weight should be on your right foot.
When the ball reaches the bottom of the forward swing, your weight should be on your left foot.

When the ball reaches the bottom of your backswing, your weight is on your left foot.

Your timing is off by a whole step.

i will ask my coach about that i am not sure i mean i was rushing my feet a little but to be a whole step out is a big thing ill have to talk to my coach on this one

[J Anderson]

For a right handed bowler, when the ball reaches the bottom of the back swing, your weight should be on your right foot.
When the ball reaches the bottom of the forward swing, your weight should be on your left foot.

When the ball reaches the bottom of your backswing, your weight is on your left foot.

Your timing is off by a whole step.

"when the ball reaches the bottom of the back swing, your weight should be on your right foot."

"When the ball reaches the bottom of your backswing, your weight is on your left foot."

Okay Mike, Which one is right?

In the four step approach as taught by level one coaches, for right handed bowlers the ball drops into the swing as the right foot touches back down on the floor at the end of the first step.

[Mike White]

"when the ball reaches the bottom of the back swing, your weight should be on your right foot."

"When the ball reaches the bottom of your backswing, your weight is on your left foot."

Okay Mike, Which one is right?

In the four step approach as taught by level one coaches, for right handed bowlers the ball drops into the swing as the right foot touches back down on the floor at the end of the first step.

They both are correct.

The first line is talking about what he should be doing.

The second line is talking about what he is incorrectly doing.

Think about the approach as if you were able to stop each time the ball reached the bottom (both forward and backward)

On the way back, you could stop and be balanced on your right foot. Your left side would counter balance the weight of the ball.
On the way forward, you could stop and be balanced on your left foot. This is only possible because you slide
your right leg to the left side of your left foot, counter balancing the weight of the ball.

[noeymc]

i dont think my timing off my buddy vince would have said something if it was off that much i think what you are refering to is the normal but you forget everyone is different my speed is slower then most peoples in my approach if i did the rule of thumb and started the ball when i started my timing would be early

[Mike White]

i dont think my timing off my buddy vince would have said something if it was off that much i think what you are refering to is the normal but you forget everyone is different my speed is slower then most peoples in my approach if i did the rule of thumb and started the ball when i started my timing would be early

You're free to think whatever you want.

I know almost everyone is different, mainly because almost everyone is self taught.

If you started the ball on time, your feet would move faster with the same arm swing time.

[Aslan]

i dont think my timing off my buddy vince would have said something

Ah Ha!! There's your problem. Nothing good can come of having a friend named "Vince". Always a bad idea.

[noeymc]

na vince is extremely good bowler and knows a lot as he was coached his whole life and grew up in the allys hes in a bowling family his dad was a coach at one time =D

also mike i am not arguing with you you may be right i really dont know only know what i been told and rule of thumb is ball release by shoe lace

[vdubtx]

Why put a video up if you aren't willing to listen to anything someone says about it. Several people have commented on your timing and you rebuffed each one.

[noeymc]

Why put a video up if you aren't willing to listen to anything someone says about it. Several people have commented on your timing and you rebuffed each one.

i am not i stated before that i dont adjust my timing i let me coach do that people kept posting on it and didnt understand why i also stated they may be right how am i rebuffing that? i never said anyone was wrong at any point in time because i dont know if my rule of thumb i grew up on is wrong i am not saying anyone is wrong for all i know mike might be right and he probably is but i dont adjust my timing on my own i let my coach do that

see old post ive taken pretty much everyones advice ever given to me i no longer have thos videos but here it is

http://www.bowlingboards.com/threads/13341-video-of-my-bowling-again/page2

as you can see i take everyones advice i am a very coachable person the people who have seen my older videos will tell you i had ugly forum only reason i was good is my spare game at that point in time =D

[Aslan]

Why put a video up if you aren't willing to listen to anything someone says about it. Several people have commented on your timing and you rebuffed each one.

Holy DeJa Vu Batman!!!

[J Anderson]

They both are correct.

The first line is talking about what he should be doing.

The second line is talking about what he is incorrectly doing.

Think about the approach as if you were able to stop each time the ball reached the bottom (both forward and backward)

On the way back, you could stop and be balanced on your right foot. Your left side would counter balance the weight of the ball.
On the way forward, you could stop and be balanced on your left foot. This is only possible because you slide
your right leg to the left side of your left foot, counter balancing the weight of the ball.

Sorry Mike, I obviously read your reply too quickly.

[btaylor]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OoyRbBHXQOA

[noeymc]

this is prob why you guys think i am late my coach was the one who changed my start i use to do both at the same time and ive been doing a bad job of waiting on the ball witch is why i prob been bowling so bad thank you guys for all your input like i said i was never saying any of you where wrong and thanks to bowl1820 for posting this it made a lot of sense https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9lE7DawI7_8