HOW does Bowlingball.com come up with its: (Perfect Scale)?

[MICHAEL]

It seems so accurate,,, when you come up with a 223.88 based on a perfect scale of 300, what decides the .88??? Could it actually be .68??? or .85 LOL

when your getting into hundreds of a whole number, I would like to know how? Do you use a robot to test balls?
Iceman very curious!


Perfect Scale




digg bowlingball.com has created our own hook rating scale. Because each manufacturer uses a different method for indicating a ball's hook potential, bowlingball.com developed a way for the consumer to compare bowling balls across all manufacturers. The result: The Perfect Scale™. Our goal is simply to make it easier for our customers to compare products and feel confident in their purchases.

The Perfect Scale™ ranges from 1 to 300. Plastic bowling balls with very low hook potential, rate a 5.

[e-tank]

from what i understand its completely subjective and should be grouped into general categories instead of thinking that because once ball is a 210 and the other is a 215, that the latter is stronger

[Terrier]

Rumors have it that coming up with a ball's rating takes place during a pagan ritual involving a live chicken. Other than that, they'll never tell you anything about how it's calculated. The Perfect Scale is their proprietary formula... hence the trademark on it.

[striker12]

when i look at it i dont understand it at all because i got my brawler and freeze both drilled pin down the CG on the freeze in straight down to the thumb and the brawler has it kicked out 45 deg and the freeze is alot stronger then the brawler and the freeze has a rating of 168.50 and the brawler is 194.10

[MICHAEL]

from what i understand its completely subjective and should be grouped into general categories instead of thinking that because once ball is a 210 and the other is a 215, that the latter is stronger

What I found interesting is it seems to be so FRICKEN ACCURATE!! Like a 230.88! ?? So what tool, or how do you get it soooooo accurate that its down to hundreds of a number?? (:?)

[MICHAEL]

Rumors have it that coming up with a ball's rating takes place during a pagan ritual involving a live chicken. Other than that, they'll never tell you anything about how it's calculated. The Perfect Scale is their proprietary formula... hence the trademark on it.


thanks,,, that makes sense!! So is it a ritual that takes place several times a year, or is that proprietary info? Are the chickens kosher? I know it might sound weird to ask that question, but from what I have heard, unless they are Kosher, the accuracy can be diminished by .50!!

can you imagine thinking your getting a ball that's 230.88, and in reality they used a regular chicken at the ritual, and it was only 230.38!! That's a deal buster in my BOOK!! GEEEEEE ...

[e-tank]

What I found interesting is it seems to be so FRICKEN ACCURATE!! Like a 230.88! ?? So what tool, or how do you get it soooooo accurate that its down to hundreds of a number?? (:?)

its pretty easy to do that. Im sure this post is 98.7649% accurate

[Stormed1]

when i look at it i dont understand it at all because i got my brawler and freeze both drilled pin down the CG on the freeze in straight down to the thumb and the brawler has it kicked out 45 deg and the freeze is alot stronger then the brawler and the freeze has a rating of 168.50 and the brawler is 194.10
What do you consider "stronger"? If your comparing ball motion down lane then that makes sens as the Freeze has a higher rg, a lower diff, is 4k+ polish. The Brawler has a lower rg than the Freeze so it will rev up sooner. It has a higher differential so it will flare more. And it also has more surface ,500 + Rough Buff which translates to 1200-1500. The Brawler is also a Hybrid vs Pearl of the Freeze. The Brawler is stronger in that it will handle more oil

As for Michael's question of why a robot? It's for consistancy of release to take the human element out of the results

[Aslan]

I like the system. If you think it's inaccurate…try using the manufacturer's descriptions…even more vague and impossible to compare to other brands.

Now, how accurate is it?? I don't know. I'm still trying to figure that out. My first ball was like a 189.5. My new ball is a 211.3. So I'm anxious to see if that difference is not only accurate (and I'm getting more hook from the new ball) but also if it is noticeable. By the end of next year I plan to replace my 189.5 ball with a 157.6 ball (to use mainly for spares/splits)…so again, it'll be interesting to see if that 157.6 hooks at all.

[dnhoffman]

If it has a higher rating, it will undoubtably make someone a better bowler.

My spare ball has a rating of 256.9998 - I never miss.

[bowl1820]

HOW does Bowlingball.com come up with its: (Perfect Scale)?

The Perfect Scale™ uses mathematical formulas along with the manufacturer's current scale to arrive at a uniform and comparable number. .

That being said,

It's just a marketing gimmick and it's ratings can be inaccurate, you can find a lot balls with very different hook ratings. But you wouldn't see much more than a board of difference between them if you drilled them the same.

[dnhoffman]

But man did it make me feel confident buying my Storm Sync when I first starting bowling again...

Now I just feel silly, but hey...the marketing worked as intended!

[striker12]

What do you consider "stronger"? If your comparing ball motion down lane then that makes sens as the Freeze has a higher rg, a lower diff, is 4k+ polish. The Brawler has a lower rg than the Freeze so it will rev up sooner. It has a higher differential so it will flare more. And it also has more surface ,500 + Rough Buff which translates to 1200-1500. The Brawler is also a Hybrid vs Pearl of the Freeze. The Brawler is stronger in that it will handle more oil

As for Michael's question of why a robot? It's for consistancy of release to take the human element out of the results

yeah i understand that but you made alittle mistake my freeze is not a pearl its the original one that came out but you say the brawler will rev up sooner but my freeze always has alot more revs off my hand.

i will get a video with my new video camera that i just got (its a $650 camera and got it for $199)

[MICHAEL]

The Perfect Scale™ uses mathematical formulas along with the manufacturer's current scale to arrive at a uniform and comparable number. .

That being said,

It's just a marketing gimmick and it's ratings can be inaccurate, you can find a lot balls with very different hook ratings. But you wouldn't see much more than a board of difference between them if you drilled them the same.
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THE KING OF the Magic formula!! What ever that is..... 231.90 not 232,,,, that's next year!!! (:) So,,,, they use mathematical formulas for a bowling ball's perfect scale???

why not film it, but have the Robotic Arm make the delivery? That Robotic that the USBC uses in their demo's! I think that would be a somewhat fair way to judge it with a slow motion overhead camera,,, but then you would need the oil to be the same, ect ect..

I WANT TO KNOW,,, give me that formula bowlingboard.com.... is it FOR REAL,,, of just make believe, like Peter Pan!! lol

[bowl1820]

yeah i understand that but you made alittle mistake my freeze is not a pearl its the original one that came out but you say the brawler will rev up sooner but my freeze always has alot more revs off my hand.

i will get a video with my new video camera that i just got (its a $650 camera and got it for $199)

FYI:
The Original Columbia Freeze came out back in 2009 and was a Reactive Pearl.

Next was the Freeze Solid and Freeze Hybrid which come out back in 2012

The new freeze that came out this year is a remake of the Original Columbia Freeze


But the Brawler compared to the Freeze solid would still be a little stronger. It still has a lower RG than the solid freeze.

The "rev up sooner" is not referring to the rev's off your hand. It's referring to RG of the ball.

"The rg measurement gives you an indication of how soon the ball "wants" to get into a roll down the lane. The lower the rg is, the more the ball is designed to roll early. This gives the perception of hooking more, because they hook earlier than balls with higher rg's."

[MICHAEL]

When you look at the balls in action, they all seem to get to the pocket and strike!! ALL OF THEM,,, their paths might, and do vary somewhat, but they all get there. Its just a matter of finding the right angle ect ect.. that puts it there, and being a great bowler like all the stars they use to show them off!

If they want to show what a new ball can do, they should use Iceman! I am no Fricken pro... let me be a ball tester!!

If that ball is magic, let it prove it to me, and all the other average bowlers out there that think their ball is going to work magic!!

Call it the ICEMAN Perfect Scale!! Any pro can make a fricken ball work magic,,, lets see some 7 10 leaves and 10 pin leaves... I never see that in a demo... THEY ALL LOOK magnificent, or as I put it THE SAME!

I bet I could darken out the color of a ball, and 100 percent could not name the ball by its action!! LOL

What is the PERFECT SCALE,,, In the last few years have balls really changed?? How would we know,,, the formula is
TOP SECRET!! LOL

[striker12]

FYI:
The Original Columbia Freeze came out back in 2009 and was a Reactive Pearl.

Next was the Freeze Solid and Freeze Hybrid which come out back in 2012

The new freeze that came out this year is a remake of the Original Columbia Freeze


But the Brawler compared to the solid would still be a little stronger. It still has a lower RG than the solid freeze.

The "rev up sooner" on the lane is not referring to the rev's off your hand. It's referring to RG of the ball.

"The rg measurement gives you an indication of how soon the ball "wants" to get into a roll down the lane. The lower the rg is, the more the ball is designed to roll early. This gives the perception of hooking more, because they hook earlier than balls with higher rg's."

thanks for declaring most of that bowl but 1 thing is my freeze seems to start the hook sooner then the brawler i will try to get a few videos of throwing both balls on the 5 board

and bowl when i was on bowlingball.com it dose not say the original freeze is a pearl it says it's a reactive resin with polish on the ball.

sorry bowl i should of re-read what i put and made sure i put the right thing down that was my fault

[bowl1820]

and bowl when i was on bowlingball.com it dose not say the original freeze is a pearl it says it's a reactive resin with polish on the ball.

The original freeze is discontinued they are just showing the newer ones.

Here's from the review of the Remake of the Freeze that came out this year:

"The Freeze is back in it's original pearlized cover.
"The new Freezes are remakes of the original Freeze from a few years ago."
Coverstock
Name: NE2 (New Era 2)
Type: Reactive Pearl
Box Finish: 4000 Polished

[Terrier]

Michael, if I had to guess what goes into the Perfect Scale, it's probably got to do with RG, differentials, and a determinator. I doubt very much that they'd drill the balls and throw them down the lane when they could easily slap a fresh one on a machine.

And hand-fed, free-range organic chickens multiply the score x2.

[striker12]

The original freeze is discontinued they are just showing the newer ones.

Here's from the review of the Remake of the Freeze that came out this year:

"The Freeze is back in it's original pearlized cover.
"The new Freezes are remakes of the original Freeze from a few years ago."
Coverstock
Name: NE2 (New Era 2)
Type: Reactive Pearl
Box Finish: 4000 Polished

yeah i know the old freeze you cant get anymore but if you go on bowlingball.com and type in freeze at the bottom is the old freeze and it dose not say anything about a pearl on it thats why i said it was not a pearl i also looked on columbia 300 site and it dose not say pearl reactive on there eather on the the older freezes

buy bowl i'm not saying your wrong or that i'm wrong. i'm just saying on bowlingball.com and columbia300.com says nothing about the old freeze being a pearl like i know it would be reactive pearl ubt on bowlingball.com it says reactive resin they still have 2 old freezes on bowlingball.com there are on the 2nd page in the c300 bowling ball area

[Aslan]

why not film it, but have the Robotic Arm make the delivery? That Robotic that the USBC uses in their demo's! I think that would be a somewhat fair way to judge it with a slow motion overhead camera,,, but then you would need the oil to be the same, ect ect..

Thats actually a good idea. That robotic arm is cool.

[Stormed1]

The original Freeze used the cover from the Momentum with the Messenger core minus the titanium nugget. Are thee layouts on the 2 balls the same. Do either have a weight hole and if so where?

[striker12]

The original Freeze used the cover from the Momentum with the Messenger core minus the titanium nugget. Are thee layouts on the 2 balls the same. Do either have a weight hole and if so where?

they are drilled almost the same the CG is kicked out 45 deg on the brawler and the freeze's CG is straight to the thumb but nether have a weight hole like its confussing the freeze is aspoce to be weaker with 4000 polish and the brawler is about 1500 polished so i would of thought the brawler would be abit more aggressive