Got some new product to try!

[bowl1820]

Got some new products to test (Thanks to a surprise Xmas present)

Brunswick's New Royal Compound and Royal Shine Polishes and some Monster Tac ball cleaner.

The Monster Tac looks like the Brunswick Remove All Ball cleaner.

Haven't really tried it except on one ball I happen to have that I forgot to clean off. Looks like a okay surface cleaner, though it doesn't look to penetrate Like say Hook-it. But have to try it some more.

Brunswick's New Royal Compound is a 2500 grit polish, it's similar to Rough Buff just a little finer.
http://www.bowlwithbrunswick.com/accessories/detail/royal-compound-polish/
Brunswick's New Royal Shine is a 5000 grit polish, not as thick as the compound reminds me of some Lanemaster polish in look.
http://www.bowlwithbrunswick.com/accessories/detail/royal-shine-polish/
Did a simple trial on a ball, both look good so far. Here's a pic, can't tell to much from it. (Hard to get the texture to show good).

Used about 1/4 tsp. (About the size of a large pea maybe) worth on two sides for about 15-20 sec. on the spinner.
pic 1-is ball a 600 grit
pic 2-600 grit + Royal Compound (This looks to have smoothed the base grit more than the Shine)
pic 3-600 grit + Royal Compound + Royal Shine (the shiniest surface)
pic 4-600 grit + Royal Shine (This looks to be the most texture, just a slight shine to the base grit)

Click on thumbnail for larger: then on image for full size
http://s5.postimg.org/4t07y4j0j/comparison_test.jpg (http://postimg.org/image/4t07y4j0j/)
Haven't threw the ball, so can't say about the reaction. This was just a quick test.

[MICHAEL]

It will be interesting to hear your opinion!! I have a nice man cave with my spinner, supplies ect! Always open to new products, and equipment! Let us know your thoughts on the products, and does bowlingball.com sell them?

I do test free sample, including bowling balls, and supplies!

[bowl1820]

It will be interesting to hear your opinion!! I have a nice man cave with my spinner, supplies ect! Always open to new products, and equipment! Let us know your thoughts on the products, and does bowlingball.com sell them?
I do test free sample, including bowling balls, and supplies!

Yeah they sell it. The brunswick royal polishes have been out for a little while now.

[MICHAEL]

Yeah they sell it. The brunswick royal polishes have been out for a little while now.

Let me know your thoughts as to how the balls perform after application!! What type of balls are they made for?
Pearl, Matte...ect..

[dnhoffman]

In for results

[bowl1820]

What type of balls are they made for?
Pearl, Matte...ect..

They are all purpose polish you can use them any of them.

Also "Matte" is a surface Type/Texture, not a coverstock type.

[e-tank]

5000 grit? Wow

Does it have grit in it like rough buff?

[bowl1820]

5000 grit? Wow

Does it have grit in it like rough buff?

"Rough Buff" uses a diminishing grit which constantly breaks down into smaller and smaller pieces as you use it.

The 2500 royal compound is a bit finer than Rough Buff, while it looks like R.B. it feels just a little smoother.


The 5000 is a thinner white kind of fluid.

Brunswick is using the royals on their OOB finishes now. example: Melee --500 Siaair Micro Pad, Royal Compound, Royal Shine

[MICHAEL]

What are you using, or will you use on your Beatdown? I notice we drilled ours pretty close in layout, (from what I can see), I was wondering if you would ever intertain the thought of putting polish on your Beatdown? And if so what surface will, or have you tried?

Remember I have the Tri Grip on mine, and have notice that I do get more revolutions on it then any of my other more standard drillings. I am thinking about playing around with the surface to see what happens.... Thinking the polish route also!

I know the polish will get it down further through the heads, but then what surface do you think would be interesting to try out?

You mention Rough Buff lotion, I have two different brands of that, how would that effect the Beatdown?

[bowl1820]

What are you using, or will you use on your Beatdown?
As I said in the balance hole thread, I'm using P800 grit paper followed by 1500 grit paper. If I have to change, it would depend on what I'm seeing. So I can't say to what changes I might make till then.


I notice we drilled ours pretty close in layout, (from what I can see), I was wondering if you would ever intertain the thought of putting polish on your Beatdown? And if so what surface will, or have you tried?
See answer above.


I am thinking about playing around with the surface to see what happens.... Thinking the polish route also!
Experimenting is fine and if you keep track it can be helpful if you have to make a change later on.

You should read the From Possum to Performance article:
http://www.bowlingboards.com/threads/15601-From-Possum-to-Performance-The-Elusive-Out-of-Box-Reaction?

(Current thinking from storm on doing surfaces:
The lowest grit should be applied with more pressure, but for a shorter duration. The higher grits should be applied with less
pressure, but for a longer time.)


I know the polish will get it down further through the heads, but then what surface do you think would be interesting to try out?
If you want something to try, you could try a "Skip A Grit" changes.

Skip a grit is intended to end up with two alternating different depths of scratches. It helps the ball check when it sees friction.

Do the base grit hard and the surface grit lightly skipping the grit in between.

Mo Pinel on Skip A grit:
Here are 4 different "Skip a Grit" to check up hard at the breakpoint
360 / light 1000
500 / light 2000
1000 / light 4000
2000 / white pad

To do the "Skip A Grit" procedure:
Sand 4 ways thoroughly with the first grit and sand two ways quickly with the second grit.


You mention Rough Buff lotion, I have two different brands of that, how would that effect the Beatdown?

"Lotion"????

There's only one "Rough Buff" I know of Brunswicks "Rough Buff"

Something to remember regarding ball surface, when all is said and done. It comes down to your personal preference. There are lots of grits and different grit sequences that will give you different results.

Some Basic info:

1. lower grit finishes will tend to read earlier with smoother transitions
2. higher grit finishes will tend to push further down the lane
3. full grit progression will yield smoother overall reaction
4. skipping a grit will yield more angular reaction

[MICHAEL]

Is there really any noticeable advantage to putting a different surface on you ball using the 6 side technique, vs the 4!
Other then it takes a lot longer!! LOL

[bowl1820]

Is there really any noticeable advantage to putting a different surface on you ball using the 6 side technique, vs the 4! Other then it takes a lot longer!! LOL

If all your doing is "Refinishing" which is just changing your surface texture or returning it back to what it was, then doing 4 sides is plenty.

The reason you want to do at least 4 "sides", is because doing just two, you are likely to have less material removed at the "equator" of those two sides. By doing at least 4 sides, you minimize that risk and it helps keep the ball in round.

Doing 6 sides minimizes the risk that much more. But I save that for doing a "True" Resurface.

Resurfacing: Is where you bring a ball back to a like "New" condition. Removing all nicks, scratches etc. You don't do a "Resurfacing" all the time, it removes a lot more material.