any one collect sport cards?

[noeymc]

i am just starting to collect football cards

but i am looking for some info if anyone here can help thanks

[circlecity]

Well, I use to collect baseball cards. Football cards are fun to collect but not worth much from a financial standpoint.

[MICHAEL]

No sports cards, but I do collect H20, then freeze it to add volume and size to my outer exterior!!
I do have a son that collects baseball cards and has since he was 9 years old! He is now 36! If you have
a question I could give him a call!

[noeymc]

i dont plan on selling any of them i just want them to have for living room i do want them graded cuz if i do ever have a kid maybe i could sell it and help him but i hope i dont have to ever sell any of them i have a berry sanders but the question i have i have some browns players and thats my team i would love to get them signed and hung up in my living room how would u go about that?

[zdawg]

i dont plan on selling any of them i just want them to have for living room i do want them graded cuz if i do ever have a kid maybe i could sell it and help him but i hope i dont have to ever sell any of them i have a berry sanders but the question i have i have some browns players and thats my team i would love to get them signed and hung up in my living room how would u go about that?

I'd say put them in some kind of protective cover and whenever the Browns have a scheduled autograph signing bring the cards and get them signed.

Before I moved to CA, I grew up/lived in the DC area and through mutual associates and strange encounters I actually became close personal friends with a number of Redskins players over the years - the only problem is that I was born in Miami and have always been a diehard Phins fan, but my friends and family always loved getting to meet the guys and get autographs, etc. You could try to go that route LOL, I'm sorry that I don't personally know any Browns players but if I ever get introduced to some I'll let you know

[noeymc]

thanks for looking out dawg lol i know derek anderson and shun rogers lol but i already have there stuff auto graphed lol yea i am getting them graded so they are kept in great condition my berry sanders card is graded =D

[Aslan]

I collected sports cards for many, many years.

Prior to 1990, it was a fairly nice collectible market. In 1990 the market became saturated as multiple new companies release massive amount of product which de-valued nearly all of it.

Baseball still has the best market, but it's nothing like it used to be. Football is a distant second. Basketball and Hockey are virtually worthless.

I'm a fan of signatures, but if you are really, really super serious about collectibles...most would warn you NOT to have valuable cards "signed" unless you get a certificate off authenticity. If someone signs a card...and down the road it can't be verified...whatever they signed ends up being worth far less than in it's original form. When I was more serious about it...I'd collect primarily just rookie cards (where most of the value is) and then I'd have the players sign other cards that I had laying around. Or if I had multiples of their rookie cards...I'd get one signed.

I'm not sure what my most valuable card is presently. I have some 1970s baseball rookie cards I think like Alan Trammel/Paul Molitor and Andre Dawson. I have a bunch of Griffey. A bunch of Bret Favre. A few Shaqs. But the reality is...no matter what you see in magazines...they are only worth what someone is willing to pay...and most shops want to buy them super cheap and re-sell them...and private collectors are really only interested in the really rare stuff like old Mickey Mantle and Babe Ruth stuff. I'd say the book value of my entire collection is probably $4000-$7000...but if I were to sell it to a shop...I'd get offered $400.

Nowadays, with cards having so little value...even rookie cards...due to massive overproduction; the "value" is in error cards or "insert" cards. Most card companies will run a minimal amount of special cards that they randomly insert into packs...and those will have much more value due to scarcity. Just like "error" cards. Sometimes early in production, a company will correct an error on a card...at which point the card with the error on it becomes scarce and more valuable . Just like coins and stamps and art and vehicles and virtually any other collectible...the value comes in "scarcity".

Don't get too into it. I've seen kids waste thousands of dollars collecting cards that at the end of the day they couldn't sell for more than $25 total. Even scratch-off lottery tickets are probably a better investment.

[noeymc]

i am not in it for money =D i have a very nice 1 out 25 cards made of josh gordon i ma send it to get graded and also a rookie card of his i ma get i signed =D but yea

[Aslan]

It's amazing that after all those years of collecting…1986-1989 mostly…but I continued to collect here and there until the early 90s…and the only cards I have of any value are:

1978 Trammel/Molitor: $45
1993 Derek Jeter: $30
1974 Dave Winfield: $30
1977 Andre Dawson: $18
1989 Barry Sanders: $18
1978 Jack Morris: $12
1984 Don Mattingly: $10

I have a bunch of other cards that "seem" like they should be worth something…but they are all under $9 like: 1983 Tony Gwynn, 1989 Randy Johnson, 1989 Ken Griffey Jr., 1991 Brett Favre, 1989 Theoren Fleury, 1992 Shaquille O'Neal, 1988 Tom Glavine, 1990 Frank Thomas. All rookie year cards…but the late 80s really killed the sports card market. 1985 was a good year only because of how many future hall of famers were rookies that year…but all the rest of the 80s and beyond were just kinda garbage. They "look" a lot nicer. Glossy, holograms, etc… But the values all went to *$^p.

[circlecity]

Prior to 1990, it was a fairly nice collectible market. In 1990 the market became saturated as multiple new companies release massive amount of product which de-valued nearly all of it. Baseball still has the best market, but it's nothing like it used to be. Football is a distant second. Basketball and Hockey are virtually worthless. So true

[noeymc]

my grandma sold for rookie jim brown card my grandpa had signed when he use to go t the games we sold that online for her i think we ended up getting 7 grand for it it got a 9.5 grade i wanted it but did have 7 grand to give my Gma lol

[Aslan]

my grandma sold for rookie jim brown card my grandpa had signed when he use to go t the games we sold that online for her i think we ended up getting 7 grand for it it got a 9.5 grade i wanted it but did have 7 grand to give my Gma lol

Well…Barry Sanders is better than Jim Brown…and Barry's rookie will sell for about $15-$21. I think Brett Favre is the best QB ever…and some of his rookie cards that I have aren't worth $1.

Your Jim Brown example;
1) Someone VASTLY overpaid for that. It's about $750 on the open market…so they were paying 10x market value for a signature.
2) That is the 3rd most valuable (Jim Brown rookie) football card ever made.
3) The most valuable football cards are all circa 1950s. Unitas, Gifford, Brown. Walter Peyton is considered by most to be the best all-around RB in history and his rookie card (1976) goes FOR $125. Joe Montana (1981)…regarded by most as the best QB ever…anywhere from $125-$500. Jerry Rice, best WR in history (according to many); 1986; $225-$300.

It's hard to think of an athlete good enough presently where they will someday have huge value. Mike Trout had probably the best rookie season of any athlete in any sport 2 years ago. I think his rookie card is worth about $30. It's hard these days because especially in football…the players just don't last. I thought LaDanian Tomlinson was the first player ever that "might" be as good or better than Barry Sanders…but he died off 2-3 seasons later. Maybe Cam Newton in football?? But man…QBs are a hit away from being forgotten. Ya just never know these days.

[MICHAEL]

[QUOTE=Aslan;97712]Well…Barry Sanders is better than Jim Brown…and Barry's rookie will sell for about $15-$21. I think Brett Favre is the best QB ever…and some of his rookie cards that I have aren't worth $1.

YES BUT BRETT FAVRE IS A TRATOR! HE WENT TO WORK FOR THE ENEMY,,, THE VIKINGS!!!! That's when his value dropped to below a plugged-Nichol!!!!

He could have had a nice back up job for a few million a year, into retirement, and been TREATED LIKE A KING, by all the fan's but NOT NOW!

[Aslan]

YES BUT BRETT FAVRE IS A TRATOR! HE WENT TO WORK FOR THE ENEMY,,, THE VIKINGS!!!! That's when his value dropped to below a plugged-Nichol!!!!

He could have had a nice back up job for a few million a year, into retirement, and been TREATED LIKE A KING, by all the fan's but NOT NOW!

Agreed. And Barry was tarnished by his last minute retirement decision that hurt the Lions. But every story has a counter-story…and Brett would say that the Packers owed him more loyalty given how he essentially rescued that franchise from worthless to dominant. And Barry would claim that it was the organization trading away his offensive line and showing no commitment to improving any time soon that forced his hand.

I just look at skill. Barry was a living, breathing highlight reel and a threat every I'm he touched the ball. He was worth the price of admission. And as a Lions fan…I saw more than enough games of Brett Favre where he just placed that team on his back and willed them to victory.

[zdawg]

Agreed. And Barry was tarnished by his last minute retirement decision that hurt the Lions. But every story has a counter-story…and Brett would say that the Packers owed him more loyalty given how he essentially rescued that franchise from worthless to dominant. And Barry would claim that it was the organization trading away his offensive line and showing no commitment to improving any time soon that forced his hand.

I just look at skill. Barry was a living, breathing highlight reel and a threat every I'm he touched the ball. He was worth the price of admission. And as a Lions fan…I saw more than enough games of Brett Favre where he just placed that team on his back and willed them to victory.

As a non-Lions fan I agree, and have forever hated the Ford family and the Lions organization for refusing to trade him which culminated in his early retirement (an unhappy player with his value would've culminated in a win-win scenario in a trade). As a fan of football we were deprived the chance to see Barry solidify himself as the greatest RB to ever play the game - no offense to later guys like Emmitt Smith, but Barry would've owned just about every meaningful record had he played out the rest of his career.

[MICHAEL]

Agreed. And Barry was tarnished by his last minute retirement decision that hurt the Lions. But every story has a counter-story…and Brett would say that the Packers owed him more loyalty given how he essentially rescued that franchise from worthless to dominant. And Barry would claim that it was the organization trading away his offensive line and showing no commitment to improving any time soon that forced his hand.

I just look at skill. Barry was a living, breathing highlight reel and a threat every I'm he touched the ball. He was worth the price of admission. And as a Lions fan…I saw more than enough games of Brett Favre where he just placed that team on his back and willed them to victory.

you think Brett Favre was a star, what about that Patton Manning!! Geeeee, Louise........ Just watched him set another record with Denver!!!! He is a fricken animal, and maybe the best all time quarter back that has ever walked onto a football field! Not only a great physical talent, but a brilliant mind! He is lucky that I decided to play defensive Half-Back in college.... or Iceman just might have set some records that NO ONE COULD BEAT!!

[Aslan]

what about that Patton Manning!! Geeeee, Louise........

I'd put Peyton at either #2 or #3 (behind Joe Montana). But…how can you criticize Favre for leaving and going to another team rather than just retire when Peyton sort of did the same thing. I think it's a tragedy in BOTH cases because those are two players that took organizations floating in the toilet and made them perennial contenders…yet were pushed aside for a shiny young rookie.

I "understand"…because the organization is looking at the long term…but there's also the loyalty factor.

[MICHAEL]

I'd put Peyton at either #2 or #3 (behind Joe Montana). But…how can you criticize Favre for leaving and going to another team rather than just retire when Peyton sort of did the same thing. I think it's a tragedy in BOTH cases because those are two players that took organizations floating in the toilet and made them perennial contenders…yet were pushed aside for a shiny young rookie.

I "understand"…because the organization is looking at the long term…but there's also the loyalty factor.

Yes Joe Montana, I think was the last quarter back to take the chiefs to the AFC playoffs! We lost, but then Montana was not at all in his prime, but still good enough to get us that far!

We haven't been that far since,,, I doubt we will make it to the championshiop game in the AFC this year!!

After watching them play their last four game, it makes me wounder how they got as far as they have this year!
Smith is NOT A franchise Quarter Back! IMHA, just an average, player at best. I believe he is ranked in the middle of the pack of 1/4 backs!!

Did Green bay do the right thing, in my opinion,,, YES!

Did the Colts do the right thing, probably yes! Luck could be a long term franchise quarter back!

We shall se on Peyton... I think he might go down as one of the most decorated quarter backs of all time, ((IF HE STAYS HEALTHY))! He is eating up the records NOW!!

Time will tell!!

[noeymc]

not sure how you said sanders was better then brown Jim brown is ranked the 1 football player lol even sanders dad said brown was better then him


and thos are the normal cards ur seeing on ebay lol there the every day run of the mill white boarder there was one of his cards on there for like 4grand a while back and they where still bidding on it

[zdawg]

not sure how you said sanders was better then brown Jim brown is ranked the 1 football player lol even sanders dad said brown was better then him


and thos are the normal cards ur seeing on ebay lol there the every day run of the mill white boarder there was one of his cards on there for like 4grand a while back and they where still bidding on it

Didn't say he was better than Jim Brown, said he was forced into early retirement before he was able to fulfill his legacy - so what number he may have ended up is pure speculation, but he was clearly the most talented RB that I ever witnessed in my lifetime (I wasn't around for Jim Brown's heyday)

[Aslan]

not sure how you said sanders was better then brown Jim brown is ranked the 1 football player lol even sanders dad said brown was better then him

1) Barry Sanders's dad is a ****ing moron.

2) Barry played in the modern era, Jim Brown and Walter Peyton did not. They were both great for their time, and could have been stars even in the modern era…but they couldn't do what Barry could do.

Barry Sanders:
- Won the Heisman trophy in his Junior and final seasons at OKST.
- Established 34 NCAA records
- He holds the national college single-season rushing record with 2,628 rushing yards in 1988.
- In 1988, Sanders won the Heisman Trophy while attending Oklahoma State University.
- In 2008, Sanders was ranked #2 in ESPN's list of the Top 25 Greatest College Football Players Ever.
Professional
- In the 1989 NFL draft, he was selected in the 1st round (3rd overall) by the Detroit Lions.
- Sanders led the NFL in rushing yards four times. 1990, 1994, 1996, and 1997.
- Most Seasons, 1,100 or More Yards Rushing (10) tied with Walter Payton
- Most Consecutive Seasons, 1,100 or More Yards Rushing (10)
- Most Seasons, 1,300 or More Yards Rushing (9) tied with Walter Payton
- Most Seasons, 1,400 or More Yards Rushing (7)
- Most Consecutive Seasons, 1,400 or More Yards Rushing (5) tied with Emmitt Smith, 1991–1995
- Most Seasons, 1,500 or More Yards Rushing (5)
- Most Consecutive Seasons, 1,500 or More Yards Rushing (4)
- In 1997, he set an NFL record by rushing for at least 100 yards in 14 consecutive games and became only the third player to reach 2,000 yards in a single season. He shared the NFL MVP award with Brett Favre.
- During the final 14 games of the 1997 season Sanders rushed for exactly 2000 yards on 310 carries (6.5 yd./carry), a figure which bears comparison with O.J. Simpson's 14-game mark of 2003 yards on 332 carries (6.0 yd./carry).
- Each of his 10 years from 1989 through 1998 he was first- or second-team All-Pro and selected to the Pro Bowl.
- Over his professional football career, he rushed for at least 100 yards in 76 games, just short of Walter Payton's 77 games and Emmitt Smith's 78 games.
- NFL record 25 games in which Sanders rushed for 150 yards or more. Jim Brown is second with 22 games
- NFL record 46 games in which Sanders had 150 yards from scrimmage or more. Walter Payton is second with 45.
- 15 career touchdown runs of 50 yards or more, most in NFL history. Jim Brown is second with 12.
- At the time of his retirement, Sanders' 15,269 career rushing yards placed him second behind Walter Payton's 16,726 yards. At Sanders' then-current yearly yardage pace, he would have eclipsed Payton within one or two years. Payton died from liver cancer at age 45 just months after Sanders' sudden retirement.
- His 18,190 career yards from scrimmage place him sixth on the all-time list.
- His career average of 5.0 yards per rushing attempt (min. 1500 att) is second all-time for running backs. Jim Brown is first with a 5.2 career average.
- His career rushing yards per game average of 99.8 yards is second in NFL history behind only Jim Brown's 104.3 yards per game.
- In 1999, he was ranked number 12 on The Sporting News' list of the 100 Greatest Football Players, making him the highest-ranking Lions player and the third highest ranked running back, behind Jim Brown and Walter Payton.
- On January 31, 2004, he was elected into the Pro Football Hall of Fame.
- On August 8, 2004, he was inducted to the Hall of Fame along with Bob Brown, Carl Eller, and John Elway.

Many people rank him behind Peyton and Brown. I'd put him in the top 5 with those 2 guys, Gayle Sayers, and LaDanian Tomlinson…maybe Emmit Smith somewhere in there as well. Me personally, I think he's #1. Brown and Peyton were harder to stop because they were bigger and stronger and playing against smaller players. But neither of them could do what Barry could do in the open field. He and Jim Brown are top 2 in about 5 records…so it might be semantics…but don't listen to his crack smoking father…Barry is the greatest I've ever seen with a football in the open field.

[tccstudent]

1)
- In 1988, Sanders won the Heisman Trophy while attending Oklahoma State University.
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Thats the most important thing to me OSU where I just happen to be attending right now
For that reason alone I will have to go with Sanders

[Aslan]

The amazing thing about OKST during that time…was that Barry was the BACK-UP running back to Thurman Thomas. Now, that seems silly NOW…but people need to remember that Thurman Thomas was a top 10 ALL TIME RB as well. That backfield was probably better than any other tandem in college history.

Also…I gotta put an asterisk (*) by ANY RB…Jim Brown or even my Barry Sanders…because all of this needs to be put in the context that "HAD BO JACKSON NOT BEEN INJURED"…Bo Jackson could have easily been better than Barry or Jim Brown. He had the Jim Brown/Walter Peyton body type but the speed of a Sayers, Dorsett, Herschel Walker. He may not have had the lateral moves of a Barry or Emmit…but Bo Jackson was very special. Thats why I say I think Tomlinson "could have been" better than Sanders…because Tomlinson had near Barry moves…but more power and was an much better pass receiver.

[tccstudent]

Also…I gotta put an asterisk (*) by ANY RB…Jim Brown or even my Barry Sanders…because all of this needs to be put in the context that "HAD BO JACKSON NOT BEEN INJURED"…Bo Jackson could have easily been better than Barry or Jim Brown.

ok what if jim browns replacement at college ernie davis never got lukemia