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Hampe
02-11-2014, 07:21 AM
As I posted in Vdub's Nationals thread, I had qualifications for Nationals this weekend. After getting off to a slow start (53 after 4 frames), I bounced back to get 199 the first game and kind of kept it rolling from there. I ended up getting 5th place and taking the last qualifying spot in category C (<175 Avg.):

http://bowling.lexerbowling.com/zurichbowling/championnatsuisseindividuelqualifregall/

The center I played at streamed the whole qualifying round on youtube, but it only shows lanes 5-8, so only my first 3 games were on camera. Here's the link if anyone wants to see (I know Aslan likes to check out other amateur bowler styles :D):

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fAqlc84IbAk&t=202m55s (http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=fAqlc84IbAk#t=12175)

When the video starts I'm on the far left (lane 5...you can only see my ball). The guy on my pair with the same jersey as me (Andreas) is my doubles partner who I qualified for the National final for doubles with (that's not until April).

The final is in 2 weeks. It's the top 5 qualifiers from the German speaking part of Switzerland and the top 5 from the French speaking part. Each finalist plays each other once with the winner getting 20 points bonus.....Most pins+bonus after 9 games is the winner.

MICHAEL
02-11-2014, 07:56 AM
Anything can happen, on any given day!!! Best of Luck!! Now go kick some ASK!!! LOL
Keep me posted, if you would! Enjoyed watching the video!

LOL,,, I LOVE THE style of the guy, I believe on 7 and 8,,, (with the shaved head), looks like a Soft Ball pitcher! LMAO!!! I have never seen a delivery quite like HIS!!

Aslan just sent me a private message... " Hey Iceman can you fix me up with either of those two dark haired chicks bowling on the lanes to Hampe right?"

I replied to Aslan: "What am I,,,, the Fricken LOVE BOAT!!"

tr33frog
02-11-2014, 12:18 PM
Congrats and good luck Hampe!

vdubtx
02-11-2014, 03:02 PM
Congrats Hampe!

That bald dude really has a real nice wind up follow through. :D

MICHAEL
02-11-2014, 05:32 PM
Congrats Hampe!

That bald dude really has a real nice wind up follow through. :D

LMAO,,,,,,,LMAO!!!!!! Wow,,,, That made my fricken day!!!! I laughed so hard, I had to go take a leak!!!!! LOL

Pauley
02-11-2014, 08:39 PM
Congrats Hampe!

That bald dude really has a real nice wind up follow through. :D

Congrats man!!

That follow through is awesome!!!

Aslan
02-11-2014, 09:04 PM
I ended up getting 5th place and taking the last qualifying spot in category C (<175 Avg.):
Wait a minute. WHAT!? You are in a < 175 division!!? IM in a < 175 division!! So if we played in a tournament I'd bowl against the GREAT Hampe?? Something is askew.


The center I played at streamed the whole qualifying round on youtube, but it only shows lanes 5-8, so only my first 3 games were on camera. Here's the link if anyone wants to see (I know Aslan likes to check out other amateur bowler styles :D):

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fAqlc84IbAk&t=202m55s
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I'm watching the ***t out of that video when I get home tonight. I wanna see Hampe's "modern release" AND I wanna see some of those hot Scandanavian broads. If I win Powerball...I'm spending some serious time in the summer traveling the clubs in Sweden and Switzerland....hottest chicks in the WORLD live there!

Hampe
02-12-2014, 03:42 AM
Wait a minute. WHAT!? You are in a < 175 division!!? IM in a < 175 division!! So if we played in a tournament I'd bowl against the GREAT Hampe?? Something is askew.Yea, I was suprised myself when I found out that I was going to be in category C again this year. Apparently they use the official average from June 31st (the official averages get calculated every 6 months in June and December) for classification, and at that time my official Swiss average was 173. I also had it wrong....it's <180, not 175.

The league I'm averaging 200 in this year is a different organization and doesn't count towards "Swiss Bowling" competitions or averages.


I'm watching the ***t out of that video when I get home tonight. I wanna see Hampe's "modern release" AND I wanna see some of those hot Scandanavian broads. Lol....you've already seen my approach and release here (http://www.bowlingboards.com/threads/15071-Please-criticize-my-approach!-%29), and it's not really a textbook modern style. I only ever said you need to have that to compete at the highest level....something you and I will never reach. If I were starting out today, I'd probably go to a Slowinski clinic to learn how to bowl.....but it would take me probably at least two years to rebuild my game and get back to where I am now. Ain't nobody got time for that!

Also, Switzerland isn't part of Scandinavia :P. It's in the middle of Europe, between Germany, France, Austria, and Italy.


Thanks for the congrats everybody. That bald guy does have a crazy follow through. I've seen him at a few tournaments before, but I never noticed until Saturday that he's got something with his right arm (I guess a birth defect or something). It might be that that messes with his balance a bit....I still dunno how he ended up with that windmill motion though :).

Bunny
02-12-2014, 11:34 AM
Way to go!! Nice bowling!!

Hampe
02-24-2014, 09:22 AM
The final was this saturday...so here's the update:
I only finished 7th place out of 10. The pattern on the lanes was super easy, but I went at it the wrong way at first which made it a bit impossible to catch up. All the oil was in the middle and outside of board 10 was super dry. Pretty much the only mistake you could make was getting outside of board 10 too early. I tried to go at it like I normally do on dry conditions, using more forward role/less axis tilt (less hand) which was going Ok, but was not the optimal way to play that pattern.

I also had some trouble with the approaches...I kept slipping on my 2nd step and then getting stuck at the line on my slide (4th step) the first few games. I nearly ended up on the lane a few times, and getting stuck like that kept making me miss my target just left. I corrected that by standing farther back on the approach, and I also started giving the ball more hand and opening up the lane. That was what I should have been doing the whole time. I averaged 214 the last 4 games after I got everything sorted out, but it was too late. The lanes were too easy to be able to catch up....The winner shot 215 avg for the whole 9 games.

It was fun though....the lanes were super easy/fun to play (once I figured out how), but I would have liked to do better. The experience showed me once again that I REALLY need to get some good shoes with switchable soles. It's not the first time I've had issues on approaches in a center that I've never played in before.

I also think this gave me some insight as to how so many people in the States can average 220+ so quickly, when some of the best players around here who have played their whole lives can't. If the lanes that Iceman plays on are anything like the lanes this weekend, then I can completely understand how someone can average 200+ the first season they start bowling ;). That might be the first time I've played on a pattern that was that easy.

MICHAEL
02-24-2014, 09:37 AM
The final was this saturday...so here's the update:
I only finished 7th place out of 10. The pattern on the lanes was super easy, but I went at it the wrong way at first which made it a bit impossible to catch up. All the oil was in the middle and outside of board 10 was super dry. Pretty much the only mistake you could make was getting outside of board 10 too early. I tried to go at it like I normally do on dry conditions, using more forward role/less axis tilt (less hand) which was going Ok, but was not the optimal way to play that pattern.

I also had some trouble with the approaches...I kept slipping on my 2nd step and then getting stuck at the line on my slide (4th step) the first few games. I nearly ended up on the lane a few times, and getting stuck like that kept making me miss my target just left. I corrected that by standing farther back on the approach, and I also started giving the ball more hand and opening up the lane. That was what I should have been doing the whole time. I averaged 214 the last 4 games after I got everything sorted out, but it was too late. The lanes were too easy to be able to catch up....The winner shot 215 avg for the whole 9 games.

It was fun though....the lanes were super easy/fun to play (once I figured out how), but I would have liked to do better. The experience showed me once again that I REALLY need to get some good shoes with switchable soles. It's not the first time I've had issues on approaches in a center that I've never played in before.

I also think this gave me some insight as to how so many people in the States can average 220+, when some of the best players around here who have played their whole lives can't. If the lanes that Iceman plays on are anything like the lanes this weekend, then I can completely understand how someone can average 200+ the first season they start bowling ;). That might be the first time I've played on a pattern that was that easy.

Good for you Bud!! In regards to the lanes ICEMAN plays on, easy oil lol,,, I have had many young, middle aged, men and women come up to me and say, I have been bowing here many years, and no 300s,,, how do you do it! That night, James with a 220 average had a 195 game, and struggled that night!


My reply is always, "I am The Iceman! some of them with 200 plus averages, but no 300, or 800! Remember when I bowled that last 300, I also had a 780 series. I really thought that I was going to throw two 300s, and a 800 that evening... 300, 216, and then 8 stirkes in a role, before the series ended, for a 264!
Its not EASY Lanes,,, come on down and give it a try!! You can stay at my place!! I will pay for your trip, if you throw a 300.... lol ... (:)

Hampe I have been real close on another bowling alley with a different oil machine, one of the newest by Kegal. It sprays the oil on.... Had a 298, 290, and several 279s there. Only reason I haven't had one there, in my opinon is that I haven't bowled at that alley much because its a longer drive from my place.. I bowl a 279 on the sports pattern called the turnpike there a year or so back easy pattern,,, "I THINK NOT! LOL ... I AM THE ICEMAN!!

Do not try to diminish what Jason, and Iceman have accomplished! Believe me, Its all a matter of
RAW SKILL, not easy oil! (:) Come show Iceman and The Dude how easy American Oil is, my offer stands!

Don't make Iceman and Jason come up to Canada, and unlike the American Hockey team, lose to an Canada!

Science has actually recently discovered that the bowling oil in Canada is MUCH easier to bowl on! They are at a lose as to why averages are lower, but hope to have the answer in the near future! ( Could it be that Americans are the best bowlers in the Fricken World!!) That might be the conclusion they come up with! LOL

Hampe
02-24-2014, 10:26 AM
Haha.....I get what you're saying Iceman, we've already concluded that you must have special bowling genes, since I'm pretty sure not everybody who bowls at your lanes bowls over 200+ avg. :). I guess we'll never know for sure though.....If I were single I'd probably take you up on that offer, but my wife already gets pissed off when I spend a night in Germany for a tourney :D.

I also don't mean to make it sound like I was just singling out you and Jason.....or even just the members of this board. You hear about people shooting 300s and 800s in the states a lot on the internet....and you almost never see them at the centers I play at....maybe once or twice a year, and 800s maybe once every 3 years or so. Of course, in the early 00's there used to be a lot more, but now there is different people conditioning the lanes, and they are not as easy as they used to be.

It's becoming more and more clear to me though just how much a difference the condition of the lanes makes! Not even just the oil pattern, but the lanes themselves, and the condition of the backends makes a huge difference.

Who knows...maybe one day we'll get to have our international showdown. I might just wait a while till you get a bit older and aren't such a superhero so I have a better chance :P

MICHAEL
02-24-2014, 11:20 AM
Haha.....I get what you're saying Iceman, we've already concluded that you must have special bowling genes, since I'm pretty sure not everybody who bowls at your lanes bowls over 200+ avg. :). I guess we'll never know for sure though.....If I were single I'd probably take you up on that offer, but my wife already gets pissed off when I spend a night in Germany for a tourney :D.

I also don't mean to make it sound like I was just singling out you and Jason.....or even just the members of this board. You hear about people shooting 300s and 800s in the states a lot on the internet....and you almost never see them at the centers I play at....maybe once or twice a year, and 800s maybe once every 3 years or so. Of course, in the early 00's there used to be a lot more, but now there is different people conditioning the lanes, and they are not as easy as they used to be.

It's becoming more and more clear to me though just how much a difference the condition of the lanes makes! Not even just the oil pattern, but the lanes themselves, and the condition of the backends makes a huge difference.

Who knows...maybe one day we'll get to have our international showdown. I might just wait a while till you get a bit older and aren't such a superhero so I have a better chance :P



LOL,,, It's in our DNA Hampe!! Nothing to do with the lanes...! If your going to wait to bowl Iceman, better make that 20 years bud!! I am a finely tuned , working out, bowing machine!!! LOL

My Dad is 87, and goes to the gym, like me, 4 times a week, can bowl 200, and in golf hits in the low 80s to mid 80s! He carries his clubs on his shoulder, (((will not ride, or even use a fricken pull cart))! He is an Animal!! I come form good stuff!!

Might be a long wait hamper, if your waiting for Iceman to melt!! LOL.... LOL!!!!

MICHAEL
02-24-2014, 11:25 AM
Congrats on your 7 place finish!! You mentioned that you were having problems with the slide..... take the slide out of the equation, wear open toe leather sandals with non slide soles! That's what Iceman wears..... sliding is way over rated IMHO!! (:) I never wear bowling shoes, find sandals much more comfortable! (They are a dedicated pair, that I keep in my bowling bag) So no damage to the lanes. (:)

Aslan
02-25-2014, 02:57 AM
Congrats on your 7 place finish!!

Agreed!

Mike White
02-25-2014, 04:28 AM
Good for you Bud!! In regards to the lanes ICEMAN plays on, easy oil lol,,, I have had many young, middle aged, men and women come up to me and say, I have been bowing here many years, and no 300s,,, how do you do it! That night, James with a 220 average had a 195 game, and struggled that night!


My reply is always, "I am The Iceman! some of them with 200 plus averages, but no 300, or 800! Remember when I bowled that last 300, I also had a 780 series. I really thought that I was going to throw two 300s, and a 800 that evening... 300, 216, and then 8 stirkes in a role, before the series ended, for a 264!
Its not EASY Lanes,,, come on down and give it a try!! You can stay at my place!! I will pay for your trip, if you throw a 300.... lol ... (:)




Iceman, here is a guy approximately in your area. Check out his Honor Scores. Member ID: 929-12126

Mike White
02-25-2014, 04:58 AM
The final was this saturday...so here's the update:
I only finished 7th place out of 10. The pattern on the lanes was super easy, but I went at it the wrong way at first which made it a bit impossible to catch up. All the oil was in the middle and outside of board 10 was super dry. Pretty much the only mistake you could make was getting outside of board 10 too early. I tried to go at it like I normally do on dry conditions, using more forward role/less axis tilt (less hand) which was going Ok, but was not the optimal way to play that pattern.

I also had some trouble with the approaches...I kept slipping on my 2nd step and then getting stuck at the line on my slide (4th step) the first few games. I nearly ended up on the lane a few times, and getting stuck like that kept making me miss my target just left. I corrected that by standing farther back on the approach, and I also started giving the ball more hand and opening up the lane. That was what I should have been doing the whole time. I averaged 214 the last 4 games after I got everything sorted out, but it was too late. The lanes were too easy to be able to catch up....The winner shot 215 avg for the whole 9 games.

It was fun though....the lanes were super easy/fun to play (once I figured out how), but I would have liked to do better. The experience showed me once again that I REALLY need to get some good shoes with switchable soles. It's not the first time I've had issues on approaches in a center that I've never played in before.

I also think this gave me some insight as to how so many people in the States can average 220+ so quickly, when some of the best players around here who have played their whole lives can't. If the lanes that Iceman plays on are anything like the lanes this weekend, then I can completely understand how someone can average 200+ the first season they start bowling ;). That might be the first time I've played on a pattern that was that easy.

What you describe pretty much is the Typical House Shot we see around here.

The proprietors and ball companies in the USA have pretty much raped the sport of bowling.

It sounds like in your area the people in charge still think of bowling as a sport.

MICHAEL
02-25-2014, 10:30 AM
Iceman, here is a guy approximately in your area. Check out his Honor Scores. Member ID: 929-12126

Hummmm,, I put the ID number in several times, it keeps asking for at least the persons first name.... strange in the past all I needed was ID number!

I guy I have bowled with here in town and a friend, check this guy out! He is 59 and now has a guy sponsoring him in tournaments.

Pate Henderson, Missouri,,, I might be able to find his number but this guy is in the Missouri Hall of Fame (bowling)

MICHAEL
02-25-2014, 10:37 AM
Patrick Henderson

Member ID: 1335-995 is in the Missouri hall of fame.

I will tell you another one that will be in the Hall of Fame,,, my own nemesis in Me vs Michael (Jason!!) At 24, he is running up some great numbers! He reminds me a lot of that young man that bowled against Belmonte this last week! About the same stature, and same incredible speed, and rev rate!

bowl1820
02-25-2014, 10:39 AM
Hummmm,, I put the ID number in several times, it keeps asking for at least the persons first name.... strange in the past all I needed was ID number!

I guy I have bowled with here in town and a friend, check this guy out! He is 59 and now has a guy sponsoring him in tournaments.

Pate Henderson, Missouri,,, I might be able to find his number but this guy is in the Missouri Hall of Fame (bowling)

Make sure you check the "By Member ID" button when searching by a member number.
http://membership.bowl.com/USBCsearch/SearchMembers.jsp

#929-12126 is a Russ S. Wilson

MICHAEL
02-25-2014, 10:51 AM
thanks, I think I hit the go button! LOOK at what JASON has done just since 2012 is remarkable!!!!
He could in my opinion go pro if he had a sponsor! His averages are even higher this year, which will not show until league ends this spring!! Check this Dude OUT!!!

As I said, he reminds me of that young guy that bowled in the final round this weekend,,,, their style is VERY similar, and both weigh about 140lbs sop and wet!! LOL I am sure bowl1820 knows his name (:)

Jason 61195280 (look and weep!!!) just since 2012!!

bowl1820
02-25-2014, 11:07 AM
Jason 61195280 (look and weep!!!) just since 2012!!

Check out Drew he bowls on my tues. league Member ID: 372-1249 his current ave. is 246

MICHAEL
02-25-2014, 11:12 AM
Iceman, here is a guy approximately in your area. Check out his Honor Scores. Member ID: 929-12126

Very impressive!! Mike white, do you know anything about his style of bowling?? Cranker,,, down and in,,,??
He is one heck of a bowler, I don't know him, but will ask around! Jason is averaging in the 230s this year also.

I really think, and so said Pat Henderson the mo. hall of famer, that Jason is good enough to go pro! Problem is not much money to be made unless your at the top of the latter! Bowling doesn't pay out well at all unless you are a top finisher!

MICHAEL
02-25-2014, 11:20 AM
Check out Drew he bowls on my tues. league Member ID: 372-1249 his current ave. is 246

FRICKEN unbelievable!! And this guy is not bowing professional??????????? How old is this guy,, don't tell me he is in his 80s!!! LOL This guy is not human,,,, HE IS a Robotic Bowling Machine!!! right!!! Wow.... BATMAN!!

MICHAEL
02-25-2014, 11:34 AM
Check out Drew he bowls on my tues. league Member ID: 372-1249 his current ave. is 246

OK be honest bowl1820,,, when you bowl against this guy,,, how many times with your Beatdown, and new Dude, do you kick his ask!!! LOL... 240 plus average!!! I wonder: Is it still fun, when your that good! I mean does he jump up and down whenever he doesn't throw a STRIKE!!!

bowl1820
02-25-2014, 01:09 PM
OK be honest bowl1820,,, when you bowl against this guy,,, how many times with your Beatdown, and new Dude, do you kick his ask!!! LOL... 240 plus average!!! I wonder: Is it still fun, when your that good! I mean does he jump up and down whenever he doesn't throw a STRIKE!!!

I haven't beat him. We bowled on the same team one year, that was when I rolled my 300.

Here's a video I just happened to take when he bowled against us last year

I shot a 602, he shot 834! 289-279-266.
His team shot 761-646-592
3strikes and a 9 count.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_eLwzG3G--4

Drew's a young guy (I'll guess he's in his 30's) he runs the Pro shop here.

Beside bowling in the leagues & tournaments here, he goes to Vegas and bowls the tourneys there. He came in second in some tourney a couple of weeks ago.

No he doesn't jump up and down, he's professional about it and learns from his mistakes.

Think 246 is something heres the next 8 averages down on that league, 244,239,233,229,229,228,225,224

Aslan
02-27-2014, 05:47 PM
Whoa!! I recognize that crossover step!! Maybe I TOO am destined for a 246 average!!

Gotta get my backswing higher though...that dude is going all Mika with his backswing.

Mike White
02-28-2014, 01:30 PM
Whoa!! I recognize that crossover step!! Maybe I TOO am destined for a 246 average!!

Gotta get my backswing higher though...that dude is going all Mika with his backswing.

Have you not seen video of your feet? Your crossover step does not resemble this video.

If he broke his leg in 3 places, and it didn't heal right, he might match your crossover step.

vdubtx
02-28-2014, 01:41 PM
Have you not seen video of your feet? Your crossover step does not resemble this video.

If he broke his leg in 3 places, and it didn't heal right, he might match your crossover step.

LOL, you have me cracking up over here Mike.

Aslan
02-28-2014, 03:23 PM
LOL, you have me cracking up over here Mike.

Don't encourage him. My crossover step is JUST as bad as that one. You're just jealous because my ball lofts 15 feet yet your ball bounces once before even getting to the foul line.

vdubtx
02-28-2014, 03:46 PM
Don't encourage him. My crossover step is JUST as bad as that one. You're just jealous because my ball lofts 15 feet yet your ball bounces once before even getting to the foul line.

Your cross over step isn't so much of a step as it is a prance. And, jealous that I actually get ball reaction before the ball hits the pins, a big resounding NO. :cool:

Hampe
03-03-2014, 10:40 AM
You're just jealous because my ball lofts 15 feet yet.....LOL.....I have a feeling that word does not quite mean what you think it does...