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atty_hen05
06-02-2014, 03:38 AM
Hi guys,

Been noticing my release lately. I often loft the ball when releasing coz i want my follow through to be just in line with my shoulder for that good flare and angle. Because of this, it produces a loud sound like I am slamming the ball into the lane. Been scoring at an average of 200 by this system and it hits really good.

Now, I want a quiet release. Almost no dropping sound just wanted to hear it roll down. Any one knows?

Hampe
06-02-2014, 04:46 AM
It's hard to say without seeing exactly what you are doing, but generally I do this by dropping my shoulder and projecting the ball out into the lane. Having a good knee bend also helps get lower to the ground for a smoother sounding release.

All that said, I wouldn't worry about it all that much. Yea, making almost no sound when you release is pretty cool, but it in no way means you will have better scores or anything. If you are comfortable playing the way you are now, you might as well stay that way.

rv driver
06-02-2014, 08:30 AM
On some of the reaction videos, Curlie Becton throws the ball with a loud BANG. Maybe it's just me, but I think you can also see the lane vibrate when the ball hits. Too much loft is a bad thing, but if you're averaging 200 consistently, maybe it's ok?

Bunny
06-02-2014, 02:05 PM
There's a young guy in our league that bowls thumbless and chucks it half way down the lane with rotation. It's not loft. He literally throws the ball. It's so fricken loud and annoying.

He's got the league's high average right now. :mad:

rv driver
06-02-2014, 07:19 PM
There's a young guy in our league that bowls thumbless and chucks it half way down the lane with rotation. It's not loft. He literally throws the ball. It's so fricken loud and annoying.

He's got the league's high average right now. :mad:
It's probably none too good for the lanes, either.

Don't you just loathe these characters who chuck the ball like a bull in a china closet -- no finesse whatsoever, just bumble and klutz their way along -- and they have the highest averages?

atty_hen05
06-15-2014, 09:39 AM
The knee bend really helped...although i bowled with same average. Problem now is sometimes the ball is bumps into the side of the sliding foot but I guess a little practice will solve this.

MICHAEL
06-15-2014, 10:48 AM
There's a young guy in our league that bowls thumbless and chucks it half way down the lane with rotation. It's not loft. He literally throws the ball. It's so fricken loud and annoying.

He's got the league's high average right now. :mad:

That's where RAW TALENT comes to play! LOL... There is NO one way that is right! This guy found this annoying way that WORKS FOR HIM! LOL

I have seen MANY, on that Saturday night league, inner city, that had that coveted 220 and up, that have the most unorthodox style, or should I say lack of style I HAVE EVER SEE. But it WORKS FOR THEM!

I know its painful for the well coached bowlers to even watch, its even painful for me, and I am not coached! But then you have to say, to yourself,,,, what's your average?

Golf, bowling, so many different ways to deliver the ball,,,, even the strange ones work GREAT sometimes....

rv driver
06-15-2014, 01:00 PM
The knee bend really helped...although i bowled with same average. Problem now is sometimes the ball is bumps into the side of the sliding foot but I guess a little practice will solve this.
If your ball is hitting your sliding foot, something's off... but someone would need to actually see you to know what's wrong.

RobLV1
06-15-2014, 07:02 PM
If you are hitting the side of your foot, you are probably drifting right. If you are, you have to pull the ball through the swing that can also cause excessive loft. Your slide foot should end up on the same board where it started. To do this, make sure that the second and fourth step back from the line (2nd and 4th step in a five step approach) cross over in front of the previous step. This ensures that the ball path is clear on the way back, and on the way forward.

Beagle
07-14-2014, 01:23 PM
Jowdy tip that McCune told me yrs ago......pretend u have a paintbrush in ur hand..paint ur target line on the lane and out, not up

Hammer
07-14-2014, 06:38 PM
The pros get the quiet lay down because of not only a good deep knee bend and a dropped ball side shoulder but at release they uncock or
uncup when they let go of the ball. This action is not forced. The weight of the ball does it for them because they hold onto the ball lightly. So
if the pros start their approach with the ball cupped or cocked at release they will uncup or uncock which will also give them one heck of a rev rate without even trying hard. I have a link on this FORUM that is from the Kegel training center on the correct release. It shows the top pros uncocking and uncupping and laying the ball down quietly on the alley. You might want to take a look at this.

JohnnyG
07-14-2014, 07:07 PM
Well, the closer you can regulate the moment of release to that precise area of your sliding shoe, the more consistent your release will become.

rv driver
07-15-2014, 06:12 PM
The pros get the quiet lay down because of not only a good deep knee bend and a dropped ball side shoulder but at release they uncock or
uncup when they let go of the ball. This action is not forced. The weight of the ball does it for them because they hold onto the ball lightly. So
if the pros start their approach with the ball cupped or cocked at release they will uncup or uncock which will also give them one heck of a rev rate without even trying hard. I have a link on this FORUM that is from the Kegel training center on the correct release. It shows the top pros uncocking and uncupping and laying the ball down quietly on the alley. You might want to take a look at this.
I really want to learn how to unload the wrist at the release.

Joker
07-15-2014, 07:29 PM
the easiest way I always found to doing this was bending knees and your body along with dropping your shoulder

mike_thomas93
07-15-2014, 08:07 PM
I've tried doing that cup uncup thing, but I haven't been able to get it right. I've had trouble knowing when to uncup at the bottom. Been wanting to try to put more revs on the ball.

Hammer
07-15-2014, 09:41 PM
I've tried doing that cup uncup thing, but I haven't been able to get it right. I've had trouble knowing when to uncup at the bottom. Been wanting to try to put more revs on the ball.

The uncupping at the release area is not something you make happen. In order to get it right you have to hold the ball with a light grip and a slight cup into the backswing. If you are still holding the ball with a light grip on the forward swing when the ball reaches the release area your thumb will come quickly out. After it does the weight of the ball will drop onto your fingertips and when it does your hand will automatically uncup. It is not something you do as much as it is something you let happen. That is why you need a light grip with your thumb. If your thumb is gripping tightly where the thumbs knuckle is bent upward it won't happen. In practice try and see how light you can hold the ball until you see when it is too light. When done right you will feel like you are dropping the ball onto the alley. You have to make sure that to get it right you have to keep your hand behind the ball when getting into the release area. Remember it is something you let happen and not something you make happen.

mike_thomas93
07-15-2014, 10:21 PM
Ahhh that dropping part again. I did mention before I felt I was gonna drop the ball when I changed my roll to semi out of full roller. That's what I felt when overthinking to let my thumb out first rather than just letting it happen. I'm still getting used to it, but I'm starting to get the hang of it more. Felt it last time I practice. Now I know wha to do next time I hit the lanes for practice to try it again. Your advice helps. I understand better now. Thanks Hammer

Hammer
07-15-2014, 10:49 PM
What fools bowlers sometimes is when they reach the release area and their hand uncups they think that they have weak wrists and go out and buy a wrist support. Wrong thinking! Your wrist will uncup by itself from the ball pulling down on the fingertips. Bowlers try to keep the wrist cupped through the release area. This puts a lot of strain on the wrist and can give you wrist problems. So uncup or uncock through the release area. You will get more revs this way without even trying hard to make the revs happen.

Joker
07-16-2014, 12:17 AM
One thing about the whole uncapping thing is that if you force the cup to uncup and your timing is off, your speed gets really slow. Happened to me for a long time.

mike_thomas93
07-16-2014, 12:33 AM
I'll keep that in mind. Could also use more ball speed in my game, too. Thanks

mike_thomas93
07-16-2014, 12:42 AM
I've tried it several times just to experiment, but I could never grasp the hang of it.

Blacksox1
07-16-2014, 02:52 AM
On the smooth release with no sound or bounce, does anyone worry about getting too low, and striking the approach while your hand is still in the ball ? I do. What is your secret ? Anyone ?

rv driver
07-16-2014, 06:08 PM
I've tried it several times just to experiment, but I could never grasp the hang of it.
Get it??? GRASP the HANG of it?

Very nice!

mike_thomas93
07-16-2014, 06:58 PM
Riiight it's still understood. Grasping it at first, getting the hang of it. We get the idea ;p

rv driver
07-16-2014, 08:01 PM
That, actually, is the most difficult part of my game: learning how to hold the ball gently and trust that it's not going to slip off my fingers.

mike_thomas93
07-17-2014, 12:34 AM
That's what I'd be afraid of, as well. ;/

fortheloveofbowling
07-17-2014, 12:58 AM
That, actually, is the most difficult part of my game: learning how to hold the ball gently and trust that it's not going to slip off my fingers.

If you are having that problem you may want to reduce the reverse pitch in your thumb. Not much though, even a 1/16 could do the trick.

fortheloveofbowling
07-17-2014, 01:22 AM
Maybe your pitches in your fingers as well. I know over the years i have shortened my span and most guys do because the hand changes over time.

rv driver
07-17-2014, 08:33 AM
I'll have to have that checked out -- but I think it's really a mental thing, since I've clawed onto the ball my whole life. I really need to concentrate on keeping my thumb straight in the hole, instead of bent at the knuckle.

Beagle
07-17-2014, 08:51 AM
I remember many years ago of using a little plastic thing called a thumb straight that u placed in ur thumbhole. Shaped like a musical note on paper. don't know if they make them anymore. now I use that clear 3m tape around my knuckle. thin and smooth. seemed to help me

rv driver
07-17-2014, 09:43 AM
I remember many years ago of using a little plastic thing called a thumb straight that u placed in ur thumbhole. Shaped like a musical note on paper. don't know if they make them anymore. now I use that clear 3m tape around my knuckle. thin and smooth. seemed to help me
Don't know that I would like that feel. Maybe I'd just better practice the correct way more...