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Shaneshu87
06-06-2014, 04:09 PM
anyone partaking in one? so far our league has just finished it's 3rd week just finished scorpion next is shark. so far i have not shot lights out my high game last week on cheeta was 238, on scorpion 208 but i have an 8/12 win/loss record. thats not saying much considering i was beat by a 10 year old by 2 pins... lol anyone else want to share their experiences on one yet?

Aslan
06-06-2014, 05:30 PM
Never cam across one yet. I figure I'll wait until a THS shot becomes "too easy" before making that leap.

tccstudent
06-06-2014, 06:49 PM
This is my second season bowling in a PBA experience league last year we won the league
So far this season we have only bowled on the Viper pattern this coming monday we will be starting our next oil pattern I think it will be the cheetah

Shaneshu87
06-06-2014, 08:11 PM
Never cam across one yet. I figure I'll wait until a THS shot becomes "too easy" before making that leap.

lol i hear ya there! i have only ever bowled on a THS then took a 2 year break from bowling, this is the first league i've bowled in since i left it was a bit daunting but i have been practicing for this since jan/feb

zdawg
06-07-2014, 08:04 PM
So rather than wait and get good at bowling, I decided to join a PBA experience league after only bowling for 8 months and one THS league....There is supposed to be some kind of team handicap thing going on, but I'm not sure I understand it and it doesn't show up on our scores. Its a doubles league, and fortunately my partner is pretty laid back and doesn't mind the fact that I'm likely doing to drag him down all season long (of course its a short summer season anyway).

This past week, and the next 3 weeks, we bowled on the longest oil pattern I've ever experienced, the badger. I don't have anything nearly aggressive enough to pretend to hook on it, so I pretty much was throwing straight at the pocket with mixed results. Regardless I'm having fun, and hopefully will become a better bowler because of it, we shall see.

Mike White
06-08-2014, 02:37 AM
I signed up for one that was supposed to started on Tuesday, June 3rd but earlier in the day, I received a call from the guy running the league informing me the league would not be floored due to insufficient interest.

A friend found another location that had one that started Monday, June 2nd, and had enough interest to continue.

So this Monday I'll have a chance to see what this PBA experience thing is like.

Shaneshu87
06-08-2014, 10:14 PM
So rather than wait and get good at bowling, I decided to join a PBA experience league after only bowling for 8 months and one THS league....There is supposed to be some kind of team handicap thing going on, but I'm not sure I understand it and it doesn't show up on our scores. Its a doubles league, and fortunately my partner is pretty laid back and doesn't mind the fact that I'm likely doing to drag him down all season long (of course its a short summer season anyway).

This past week, and the next 3 weeks, we bowled on the longest oil pattern I've ever experienced, the badger. I don't have anything nearly aggressive enough to pretend to hook on it, so I pretty much was throwing straight at the pocket with mixed results. Regardless I'm having fun, and hopefully will become a better bowler because of it, we shall see.

i believe you will become a better bowler out of it, it will teach you to adapt to the always changing lanes. when you go back to a THS you'll surprise yourself

Shaneshu87
06-08-2014, 10:16 PM
I signed up for one that was supposed to started on Tuesday, June 3rd but earlier in the day, I received a call from the guy running the league informing me the league would not be floored due to insufficient interest.

A friend found another location that had one that started Monday, June 2nd, and had enough interest to continue.

So this Monday I'll have a chance to see what this PBA experience thing is like.

that stinks about the lack of interest, we fill 20 lanes so i suppose thats a good turn out, it's my first one so i don't know how to compare to previous ones lol. from what everyone says its way more people than last year so the payout should be almost a grand for 1st place, i'm in 8th right now

Aslan
06-08-2014, 10:24 PM
i believe you will become a better bowler out of it, it will teach you to adapt to the always changing lanes. when you go back to a THS you'll surprise yourself

No. He'll just come back complaining it was oiled in a "reverse block". :cool:

Mike White
06-08-2014, 11:06 PM
that stinks about the lack of interest, we fill 20 lanes so i suppose thats a good turn out, it's my first one so i don't know how to compare to previous ones lol. from what everyone says its way more people than last year so the payout should be almost a grand for 1st place, i'm in 8th right now

I'm curious, 20 lanes, how many people per lane/team? How much do you pay each week? and how many weeks? and finally how many games per week?

$1000 seems a little high considering this Monday league supposedly is 12 weeks at $12 per week. I'd be surprised if that covers any more than lineage.

I'm also bowling in a THS senior afternoon league because the clock is ticking on that 11 in a row award. Gotta get one before it disappears Aug 1st.

tccstudent
06-09-2014, 12:05 AM
Ours is 13 weeks long 3 weeks per pattern and the final week will be TOC pattern
two per team
15 a week 9 for linage and 6 for prize fund all prize fund is point money

Mike White
06-10-2014, 12:20 AM
No. He'll just come back complaining it was oiled in a "reverse block". :cool:

No reverse block to complain about this time.

The condition was some form of Viper.

There appeared to have a little OB outside of 5.

I did get a chance to try out both the Marvel-S, and Byte in practice.

The Marvel-S would only stay on the right side of the head pin if I was well into the OB.

It had an unplayable left turn. Maybe it will be good for 50 feet of oil.

The Byte is what I used most of the night.

It had an amazing ability to launch messengers.

I had one messenger almost fly over the top of the 10 pin.

The Breeze was playable, but if it got close to the OB, it would leave me a 2-10, or 1-2-4-6-10.

The urethane never had enough bite during practice.

My games were 237, 258, 240, 237, for 972

There were only 10 people total, so they decided not to sanction the league.

They said they needed 12 to qualify for some kind of PBA thing.

Aslan
06-10-2014, 01:57 AM
No reverse block to complain about this time.

The condition was some form of Viper.

My games were 237, 258, 240, 237, for 972

Not bad Mr. White!! Hey everybody! Look what my ball driller did!!

Amyers
06-10-2014, 09:34 AM
No reverse block to complain about this time.

The condition was some form of Viper.

There appeared to have a little OB outside of 5.

I did get a chance to try out both the Marvel-S, and Byte in practice.

The Marvel-S would only stay on the right side of the head pin if I was well into the OB.

It had an unplayable left turn. Maybe it will be good for 50 feet of oil.

The Byte is what I used most of the night.

It had an amazing ability to launch messengers.

I had one messenger almost fly over the top of the 10 pin.

The Breeze was playable, but if it got close to the OB, it would leave me a 2-10, or 1-2-4-6-10.

The urethane never had enough bite during practice.

My games were 237, 258, 240, 237, for 972

There were only 10 people total, so they decided not to sanction the league.

They said they needed 12 to qualify for some kind of PBA thing.

Great shooting Mike!!!

fsbjcm
06-10-2014, 10:25 AM
I wish. Closest synthetic lanes are 1 1/2 hrs away. I'm gonna try to make a trip to Dallas soon and try to get some experience with the PBA patterns just to see how much more difficult it is!

Amyers
06-10-2014, 11:24 AM
I wish. Closest synthetic lanes are 1 1/2 hrs away. I'm gonna try to make a trip to Dallas soon and try to get some experience with the PBA patterns just to see how much more difficult it is!

Why do you have to have synthetic lanes for a PBA league we offer one at my house and its wood. I'm sure its not exactly the same but you get to experience the oil patterns. Talk to your house and see if there is any interest.

fortheloveofbowling
06-13-2014, 10:25 PM
Do you have a ball driller?

Shaneshu87
06-17-2014, 09:11 AM
I'm curious, 20 lanes, how many people per lane/team? How much do you pay each week? and how many weeks? and finally how many games per week?

$1000 seems a little high considering this Monday league supposedly is 12 weeks at $12 per week. I'd be surprised if that covers any more than lineage.

I'm also bowling in a THS senior afternoon league because the clock is ticking on that 11 in a row award. Gotta get one before it disappears Aug 1st.

3 per lane $20 a person

Shaneshu87
06-17-2014, 09:14 AM
we shoot viper this Wednesday i am really looking forward to this patteren!

tccstudent
06-17-2014, 09:49 AM
we started on the viper this year didnt do to bad on it now we are 5 weeks into the league and finished our 3 weeks of the viper and have bowled 2 weeks on the chameleon

MICHAEL
06-17-2014, 09:56 AM
Anyone know of one in the Kansas city Mo area??? I am READY,,,, sounds like a challenge! I now have a pretty good arsenal of 18 newer balls!

18 balls, is a WASTE on house oil! I need to find a PBA experience!!

Amyers
06-17-2014, 10:01 AM
Anyone know of one in the Kansas city Mo area??? I am READY,,,, sounds like a challenge! I now have a pretty good arsenal of 18 newer balls!

18 balls, is a WASTE on house oil! I need to find a PBA experience!!

18 you do have a problem don't you Iceman of course at least yours are drilled and not sitting in a closet

tccstudent
06-17-2014, 11:23 AM
Anyone know of one in the Kansas city Mo area??? I am READY,,,, sounds like a challenge! I now have a pretty good arsenal of 18 newer balls!

18 balls, is a WASTE on house oil! I need to find a PBA experience!!

Grab your phone book and start calling around I am sure someone in the KC area should have one if not talk to one of the centers you bowl in about starting one

Amyers
06-17-2014, 11:43 AM
Anyone know of one in the Kansas city Mo area??? I am READY,,,, sounds like a challenge! I now have a pretty good arsenal of 18 newer balls!

18 balls, is a WASTE on house oil! I need to find a PBA experience!!

I can't believe there are not multiple ones in an area as large as your there are at least 3 here in Charleston, WV and K.C. makes Charleston look like a postage stamp

Shaneshu87
06-17-2014, 11:50 AM
my choices were Indianapolis, IN or spring field, IL. three years ago, then i guess they started one right in Terre Haute,IN which was very convenient since it's only a 20 minute drive ;)

Hampe
06-18-2014, 09:06 AM
I can't believe there are not multiple ones in an area as large as your there are at least 3 here in Charleston, WV and K.C. makes Charleston look like a postage stampEspecially considering the number of hot shot bowlers in Iceman's area. C'mon Iceman....quit messing around and join a sport shot league! :)

tccstudent
06-18-2014, 09:29 AM
If you cant find one Iceman you are more then welcome to come up and bowl in my PBA league next summer.

MICHAEL
06-18-2014, 09:34 AM
Especially considering the number of hot shot bowlers in Iceman's area. C'mon Iceman....quit messing around and join a sport shot league! :)

Hey ,, I was talking to Gene last night after we wiped out The Vacancy family! "We need to find a Sports League!" He agreed! I think Jason would enjoy one too! Gene is a 220 average bowler, and Jason was right at 233 this last year on one of our leagues,,, YES ICEMAN fly's with the Eagles!! LOL

MICHAEL
06-18-2014, 09:36 AM
If you cant find one Iceman you are more then welcome to come up and bowl in my PBA league next summer.

watch what you SAY tccstudent! Aslan will start talking!!! His mind works that WAY!! LOL

http://i1243.photobucket.com/albums/gg546/imagine686868/2_men_talking_zps81bd9f74.jpg (http://s1243.photobucket.com/user/imagine686868/media/2_men_talking_zps81bd9f74.jpg.html)

vdubtx
06-18-2014, 01:54 PM
I mistakenly joined a Sport Shot league vs. a PBA Experience league. To add to this, it is at an AMF center. 3 weeks into the league and we shot on 1 pattern, but each and every week, the pattern played so differently. No way they laid same shot down each week.

My mistake for dealing with an AMF center, and will be my last. This center has employees that know nothing about bowling. The front counter person, has no clue when you tell her "ball return on lane 13". She looked around clueless as to what to do.

circlecity
06-18-2014, 03:17 PM
I bowl on the Shark pattern tonight. It's one of the longest patterns. I guess you need to keep your ball speed down, so I mowed the yard today hoping that will keep me sleepy and tired before I bowl. :D

http://www.epicbowling.com/pba-patterns/shark/

tccstudent
06-19-2014, 12:06 PM
I mistakenly joined a Sport Shot league vs. a PBA Experience league. To add to this, it is at an AMF center. 3 weeks into the league and we shot on 1 pattern, but each and every week, the pattern played so differently. No way they laid same shot down each week.


If your not throwing on PBA shots what are you throwing on Kegal Challenage Shots
The patterns will play differently each week depending on many different factors like who is on the lanes with you and how long the pattern has had time to settle and a whole list of other things too House shots are the same way but its harder to notice since they are always much more playable with area everywhere

Shaneshu87
06-19-2014, 12:36 PM
i felt like i really bowled well on viper last night, i only won 2 of my games but the 2 i lost were by 1 and 9 pins they it was up against bowler much better than myself. all in all my deadly aim rolled like it was supposed to and i only left 1 open frame. that Deadly aim is a beast!

Bunny
06-20-2014, 01:16 PM
So my husband wants us to do the PBA Experience League we have out here. He really wants to bowl in a big senior tournament coming up and needs to bowl some more sanctioned leagues to get his average. The PBAE League has an opening for one team and needs two bowlers to complete another. It's only $13 which is cool.

No prob except it starts at 08:00 on Sunday. It's the one day I can get a little extra sleep.

classygranny
06-20-2014, 09:53 PM
Sleep? Bowling? Sleep? Bowling?

Duh...easy choice!

Amyers
06-20-2014, 09:57 PM
Sleep? Bowling? Sleep? Bowling?

Duh...easy choice!

Was sleep really ever in the running?

tccstudent
06-20-2014, 10:17 PM
Sleep? Bowling? Sleep? Bowling?

Duh...easy choice!

Thats right you can sleep once your dead

Bunny
06-21-2014, 10:27 AM
Sleep? Bowling? Sleep? Bowling?

Duh...easy choice!


Was sleep really ever in the running?


Thats right you can sleep once your dead



Lol. Ya'll are funny.

:D :D :D


I'll probably do it. It's an addiction after all.

I gotta feed the monkey! :cool:

Bunny
06-21-2014, 10:50 PM
Hubby talked me into PBAE League. It's Bejing 35ft short tomorrow. Anybody have experience on it? The Tropical Breeze might work. Something that doesn't react too much to the dry I'm thinking.

It should be fun and since we're just establishing our averages it's okay if we don't bowl great. Which is what I kind of expect.

Amyers
06-21-2014, 11:43 PM
Hubby talked me into PBAE League. It's Bejing 35ft short tomorrow. Anybody have experience on it? The Tropical Breeze might work. Something that doesn't react too much to the dry I'm thinking.

It should be fun and since we're just establishing our averages it's okay if we don't bowl great. Which is what I kind of expect.


Bunny

This might help

http://www.revolutionsproshop.com/Test/beijingoverview.htm

Bunny
06-22-2014, 03:57 PM
Bunny

This might help

http://www.revolutionsproshop.com/Test/beijingoverview.htm


Thanks for the link A. I thought it was the best of the youtube Bejing videos.


I shot 189-124-155-223.

After the 189 I hate to say it but I did ease up a bit. I threw a triple and a quad in the 4th game. Missed women's season high scratch game by two pins.

Pretty Sweet! I guess the Mark Baker lesson paid dividends. :o

It's Shark next week, which should prove much more challenging. Looking forward to it.

Amyers
06-22-2014, 06:22 PM
Thanks for the link A. I thought it was the best of the youtube Bejing videos.


I shot 189-124-155-223.

After the 189 I hate to say it but I did ease up a bit. I threw a triple and a quad in the 4th game. Missed women's season high scratch game by two pins.

Pretty Sweet! I guess the Mark Baker lesson paid dividends. :o

It's Shark next week, which should prove much more challenging. Looking forward to it.

I'm glad it helped. Shark is a whole different beast so good luck. I haven't ever bowled on any if the long patterns. I want to try it some time. Congrats on the 189.

Bunny
06-22-2014, 07:32 PM
Thanks. I'm happier with the 223. We bowled four games. ;)

Amyers
06-22-2014, 08:40 PM
Thanks. I'm happier with the 223. We bowled four games. ;)

Haha bet you are

zdawg
06-22-2014, 08:41 PM
The long pattern I bowled on was the Badger, and it sucked, I mean really really sucked. Part of the problem is I don't have an arsenal yet so I had to make do with what I had, but a 52 foot oil pattern is much different than anything you've likely bowled on before. Shark shouldn't be that bad, I think its only 42 feet? Then again, all sports patterns are difficult when compared to THS

Bunny
06-22-2014, 11:14 PM
The long pattern I bowled on was the Badger, and it sucked, I mean really really sucked. Part of the problem is I don't have an arsenal yet so I had to make do with what I had, but a 52 foot oil pattern is much different than anything you've likely bowled on before. Shark shouldn't be that bad, I think its only 42 feet? Then again, all sports patterns are difficult when compared to THS


Yeah, it's 43ft. I have no delusions of grandeur.

That's why I need to win a new, more aggressive ball.

Hint, hint. Wink, wink BB.com ;)

Amyers
06-22-2014, 11:28 PM
Yeah, it's 43ft. I have no delusions of grandeur.

That's why I need to win a new, more aggressive ball.

Hint, hint. Wink, wink BB.com ;)

Nah they can give me the new ball. Straighter is grater on the shark anyway keep your angles tight across the 2nd and third arrows is what I've seen the most success with. I haven't thrown this one myself but I was watching our pba league bowl on this pattern two weeks ago. I would think use the first blood on this pattern. Inside is where to be on it.

tccstudent
06-23-2014, 10:11 AM
The long pattern I bowled on was the Badger, and it sucked, I mean really really sucked. Part of the problem is I don't have an arsenal yet so I had to make do with what I had, but a 52 foot oil pattern is much different than anything you've likely bowled on before. Shark shouldn't be that bad, I think its only 42 feet? Then again, all sports patterns are difficult when compared to THS


Nah they can give me the new ball. Straighter is grater on the shark anyway keep your angles tight across the 2nd and third arrows is what I've seen the most success with. I haven't thrown this one myself but I was watching our pba league bowl on this pattern two weeks ago. I would think use the first blood on this pattern. Inside is where to be on it.

The three new patterns have the exact same quanity of oil but on the badger which is much longer it is just spread very thin.
I tend to do better on the longer shots then I do on the shorter shots due to my high ball speed and massive amount of hand that I put on the ball The short patterns I have to move so far left that I am outside of my comfort zone but I have been working on playing 4th arrow and beyond.
The shark and the scorpion are my two favorite shots

Shaneshu87
06-23-2014, 01:53 PM
i bowl on Badger this week, it's going to be a bit interesting, i struggle with longer patterns, i might just pull an O'Neill and roll it straight up the 3rd arrow lol what ever works, gotta get them pins!

zdawg
06-23-2014, 04:54 PM
i bowl on Badger this week, it's going to be a bit interesting, i struggle with longer patterns, i might just pull an O'Neill and roll it straight up the 3rd arrow lol what ever works, gotta get them pins!

I wish they had broadcast that episode prior to me bowling the pattern, but I did sort of find some success bowling almost straight to the pocket. I plan on having a couple balls to choose from this fall when I join another PBA experience league, so hopefully I'll be a little more versatile than I am at the moment.

Shaneshu87
06-24-2014, 10:27 AM
I wish they had broadcast that episode prior to me bowling the pattern, but I did sort of find some success bowling almost straight to the pocket. I plan on having a couple balls to choose from this fall when I join another PBA experience league, so hopefully I'll be a little more versatile than I am at the moment.

i hear ya there! i started my PBAE league with a 2 ball arsenal, i suddenly realized the mistake i made and quickly got me hands on some new equipment, i'm thinking my Assassin will take the show, but i may start with my deadly aim first just to test the waters, it's more aggressive than my assassin.

Bunny
06-24-2014, 11:47 AM
i bowl on Badger this week, it's going to be a bit interesting, i struggle with longer patterns, i might just pull an O'Neill and roll it straight up the 3rd arrow lol what ever works, gotta get them pins!


I got no problem with that! Watching Bill last week helped me on the PBA Experience League.

I gotta say coming in and rolling some pretty decent scores 189-124-155-223 (we bowl four games) my first time against all those guys was pretty freaking awesome!

Yeah, yeah, I know it was a short pattern but whatevs, I out bowled a lot of them!! (And I eased up the second game.) I started out targeting inside the 5 board but ended up targeting 9-10.

I'm hoping to take the pattern out of play a little by going straighter as well on Shark this Sunday. :cool:

Shaneshu87
06-24-2014, 12:43 PM
I got no problem with that! Watching Bill last week helped me on the PBA Experience League.

I gotta say coming in and rolling some pretty decent scores 189-124-155-223 (we bowl four games) my first time against all those guys was pretty freaking awesome!

Yeah, yeah, I know it was a short pattern but whatevs, I out bowled a lot of them!! (And I eased up the second game.) I started out targeting inside the 5 board but ended up targeting 9-10.

I'm hoping to take the pattern out of play a little by going straighter as well on Shark this Sunday. :cool:

lol i meant nothing bad by saying i was going to bowl like O'Neill. i'm 1 of maybe 3 hammerheads out of 40 in my PBAE and i'll probably be the only one playing that line lol. i'm excited! me and the Assassin are going to crush some dreams! Roll on Badger tomorrow!

Shaneshu87
06-26-2014, 11:34 AM
officially hate badger....

Amyers
06-26-2014, 11:43 AM
Badger is one of the hardest ones out there

Bunny
06-26-2014, 11:47 AM
officially hate badger....


Mmm. Hate to ask.

More info please.

Shaneshu87
06-26-2014, 02:03 PM
Mmm. Hate to ask.

More info please.

Bunny, Badger is a PBA oil pattern, it is long and unforgiving, and a royal pain in the butt

zdawg
06-26-2014, 06:19 PM
Bunny, Badger is a PBA oil pattern, it is long and unforgiving, and a royal pain in the butt

I second that, I haven't bowled on every PBA pattern, but of the ones I have bowled on I HATED this one :cool:

Bunny
06-26-2014, 06:53 PM
Mmm. Hate to ask.

More info please.

I know it's a PBA pattern. Wondering specifics but it's totally understandable if you don't want to re-live it. ;)

zdawg
06-26-2014, 07:34 PM
Yeah I know it's a tough PBA pattern. Wondering specifically what about the pattern made it tough.

For me its the length, and not having a ball that is aggressive enough. With 52 ft of oil, you have 8 ft to hook so you must change your style accordingly. That said, if I had a much more aggressive ball with me I might have been able to get away with not throwing it quite so straight. And as you know on pretty much all PBA patterns, if you miss right you miss right but on this pattern I found that if you miss right you REALLY miss right ;)

fortheloveofbowling
06-26-2014, 08:29 PM
What you have to remember about this patteren is the ball is going to hook only about 2-3 boards at the most if you have a decent rev rate. If you are bowling on wood maybe a board more. Your best bet is to play fall back from 5th arrow and hope the ball gets into a roll just before the pins so you don't leave 8-10 all night. I have no desire to play this pattern, that is for sure.

Shaneshu87
06-27-2014, 09:46 AM
What you have to remember about this patteren is the ball is going to hook only about 2-3 boards at the most if you have a decent rev rate. If you are bowling on wood maybe a board more. Your best bet is to play fall back from 5th arrow and hope the ball gets into a roll just before the pins so you don't leave 8-10 all night. I have no desire to play this pattern, that is for sure.

hahaha i ended up throwing off the corner straight at the pocket and left many splits, i was using my deadly aim hoping that this whole "Carbon Fiber" stuff was all it was cracked up to be... it was and it gave me to much pin action at 25mph lol

Shaneshu87
07-23-2014, 11:36 PM
rolled on the Tournament of Champions pattern tonight, and i must say i found myself turning to a golden oldie for tonight, i started off throwing my Deadly but found it to be too snappy off the point, since my Raw Hammer Jacked cracked, i stole my wife's and redrilled it this week to match mine, sanded down to 1000 grit dull and i hit it with a 500 by hand before the games, this ball rolled phenomenally, just enough to not snap of the point but retain the energy to shred the deck. although my first game out of the gate was a 105 (and i still won) drop that game and my last three finished with a 683 series 235 being my highest game, i took 3/4 games tonight believe it or not my high game i lost by 4 pins. over all happy with the way i bowled, and despite what allot of other bowlers said about TOC i loved it.

fortheloveofbowling
07-23-2014, 11:51 PM
Great bowling the last 3 games. That was a heck of a turnaround from the first game!

Shaneshu87
07-24-2014, 12:00 AM
Great bowling the last 3 games. That was a heck of a turnaround from the first game!

first game was with the deadly aim just couldn't control the break point, it didn't help that i forgot my spare ball at home... my spare % was terrible tonight, it was basically strike or bust

Shaneshu87
07-31-2014, 08:16 AM
thought we were shooting on Dead Man's Curve last night... turned out to be the World Championship pattern 41ft of flat suck oil. opened up the night rolling well had a decent line up the 10, 178, transitioning into game 2 (new pair) my up the 10 was gone. fought through blindly and managed to cover my spares for a 153. game three (new pair) my up the 10 was back but it was jumpier had to lay it down on the 12 and push it out to the 9, my shot was inconsistent but i managed to keep the game clean and shot a 179, game four (new pair) was wicked different, couldn't find a line, made to many moves, and ended up with a 132 missing several corner pins. all in all this pattern is not to bad to roll on, scores were low all around, highest score of the night was a 240, and only 4 people managed to break the 200 pin line. next week is position round, followed by a sweeper the week after, winner after the position round gets to choose pattern of sweeper.