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Bunny
07-05-2014, 11:02 AM
It would be nice to have a chart or list kind of thing for adjustments according to pin leaves.
Nothing too complicated but in general.
Bowl1820?? :o
bowl1820
07-05-2014, 11:19 AM
It would be nice to have a chart or list kind of thing for adjustments according to pin leaves.
Nothing too complicated but in general.
Bowl1820?? :o
I don't think there's chart, but there are a couple of articles. One is Slowinski's article "The Pins are Talking: Are you Listening?"
Find it here:
Click here for "The Pins are Talking: Are you Listening?" (http://bowlingknowledge.info/images/stories/slowinskifeb10.pdf)
(Right click and "Save Link As" to save to your computer.)
I'll look and see if I can remember and find the others.
One thing to remember: "Play where the lane dictates - not where you'd like too play"
Bunny
07-05-2014, 11:21 AM
I don't think there's chart, but there are a couple of articles. One is Slowinski's article "The Pins are Talking: Are you Listening?"
Find it here:
Click here for "The Pins are Talking: Are you Listening?" (http://bowlingknowledge.info/images/stories/slowinskifeb10.pdf)
(Right click and "Save Link As" to save to your computer.)
I'll look and see if I can remember and find the others.
Daaang! That was quick!!
Thanks Bowl!!!
MICHAEL
07-05-2014, 02:04 PM
Thanks for the information! I have saved that info to my computer! Your a good man 1820!!!
classygranny
07-05-2014, 03:54 PM
Rob has an article on his website called "The Shadow Pin Spare System". I have it printed out and in my bowling bible as I found it to be most helpful. I'm not sure how to post a link to it here, but maybe someone else will do that.
bowl1820
07-05-2014, 04:53 PM
Rob has an article on his website called "The Shadow Pin Spare System". I have it printed out and in my bowling bible as I found it to be most helpful. I'm not sure how to post a link to it here, but maybe someone else will do that.
That's a spare system to adjust to pick up spares. But Bunny was looking for a chart on how to adjust your strike shot, so as not to leave the pins in the first place.
Rob Mautner's "Shadow Pin" Article is on his website here:
http://www.modern-bowling.com/Bowling-Tips-and-Lessons-Coaching-Las-Vegas-NV.html
classygranny
07-05-2014, 05:20 PM
oops....didn't read that close enough
Pulled one of my own pet peeves, but can I blame it on the dog getting up too early today? and not enough coffee? LOL
Sorry Bunny, I had no intention of hijacking this thread (:<
Bunny
07-05-2014, 07:07 PM
oops....didn't read that close enough
Pulled one of my own pet peeves, but can I blame it on the dog getting up too early today? and not enough coffee? LOL
Sorry Bunny, I had no intention of hijacking this thread (:<
lol! Hey, one more entry for the Diva Pearl at least!
My gang got me up extra early yesterday. They all just stood there at the edge of the grass. I think they were playing "you go first."
Silly pups. :)
Hampe
07-07-2014, 07:30 AM
This is probably the area of my game that I need to improve the most. Reading the lane as it transitions and making the correct changes. Too often I fall behind and make corrections too late.
RobLV1
07-07-2014, 10:06 AM
The problem with making adjustments based on pin leaves, is that it is an adjustment that is made too late. Once a pin is left, the potential for a strike in that frame is gone forever. By watching the ball exit the pin deck, you can learn to make adjustments before you leave any pins. The ball should exit the pin deck exactly between the eight pin and the nine pin. If, as a right hander, you see it begin to go more towards the nine pin, it means that it is beginning to roll too early which is causing it to lose energy. If you don't make an adjustment, you will soon see a weak ten pin. Since the ball is rolling too soon, the adjustment is to either switch to a ball that goes longer, or make a move left to find more oil in the heads to delay the roll. When the ball starts going toward the eight pin, it means that it is finishing too hard, and you will soon see a four pin, a nine pin, or a four/nine split if you don't make an adjustment. Gotta go. More later.
When the ball goes toward the eight pin, it is finishing not only hard, but late. To counter this, either keep your feet where they are and move your target a little bit right down the lane, or go to a ball with slightly more surface or a slightly lower rg and play the same line.
Hampe
07-07-2014, 10:16 AM
Yea....one does have to be careful though. Misreading whats going on can be even worse than making corrections too late. It's happened to me before where I misread the ball and moved in too early, and the next frame had a washout. Boy, did I miss just having the 10 pin then :D.
It's just one more thing that takes a lot of practice....
Bunny
07-08-2014, 11:41 AM
The problem with making adjustments based on pin leaves, is that it is an adjustment that is made too late. Once a pin is left, the potential for a strike in that frame is gone forever. By watching the ball exit the pin deck, you can learn to make adjustments before you leave any pins. The ball should exit the pin deck exactly between the eight pin and the nine pin. If, as a right hander, you see it begin to go more towards the nine pin, it means that it is beginning to roll too early which is causing it to lose energy. If you don't make an adjustment, you will soon see a weak ten pin. Since the ball is rolling too soon, the adjustment is to either switch to a ball that goes longer, or make a move left to find more oil in the heads to delay the roll. When the ball starts going toward the eight pin, it means that it is finishing too hard, and you will soon see a four pin, a nine pin, or a four/nine split if you don't make an adjustment. Gotta go. More later.
When the ball goes toward the eight pin, it is finishing not only hard, but late. To counter this, either keep your feet where they are and move your target a little bit right down the lane, or go to a ball with slightly more surface or a slightly lower rg and play the same line.
Thanks Rob. I hear ya. Gotta keep ahead of the transition.
I think the main thing for us right now is training ourselves to look at the way the ball moves through the pins and where the ball leaves the deck. I've gotten better at watching ball motion and where it's hooking but man it's tough to watch the ball hitting the pins, the pins, and the ball leaving the deck all within a split second. It'll come with practice I know.
The Joe Slowinski article is a great start. Thanks again Bowl and Rob!
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