Undefeated

[MICHAEL]

Can't find much information on and old ball that I still have,,, old,, 3 to 4 years old, one of my first balls upon getting stared in bowling. Ebonite, I believe, I believe it had a 500 1000, and polish oob finish, but not sure on the ball's rg,,, or even if its a symmetrical or asymmetrical. But if I were to guess I would say it was defiantly a asymmetrical ball, had a move much like the byte into the pocket. The guy that drilled balls for me said it was a European release ball, but even in my early days it gave me some Great Games, including my first 700, and a 298 game on a seniors league that was not sanctioned.

I am thinking about doing a de-oil, and resurface, would like to see if it still has the MAGIC!! Color is a red, and blue ...
Any info on the ball would be appreciated!!

[classygranny]

There is minimal info at this site...not much though.

http://www.123bowl.com/ball.cfm?ballid=3431

[fortheloveofbowling]

Ballreviews.com has info on pretty much every ball ever made.

[bowl1820]

There are 4 undefeated balls, all are on the approved list. The Original Undefeated is the oldest approved back in 2008.

There is also the undefeated fire, undefeated 2 and undefeated Red/Turquoise/Purple

Let's see you said before your Undefeated was Red/Turquoise/Purple which we figured is either the overseas version of the Undefeated/Undefeated II or the LoMar version . Because the proshop told you "They were sold in Europe but not in the USA until recently."

Since the overseas Undefeated/Undefeated II Red/Turquoise/Purple! is the same ball as the Lomar Undefeated which is a private label pour by Ebonite.

here's the spec's for:

The LoMar Private Label / Ebonite Undefeated is a Reactive Pearl O.O.B. is 500, 1000 Abralon w/polish

It has the Centrex core from the One and the XL1200 coverstock from the Org. Mission. Btm shows it as a good medium oil ball for all 3 styles.

This is from Lomar
This ball is LoMar's Exclusive ball through Ebonite, LoMar or one of it's sellers is the only place you can get this ball.
Features the original Mission Coverstock & the Angular One Core.
Color: Red/Turquoise/Purple
Length: 26
Hook Potential: 47.5
Back End: 14.75
16# RG 2.51 DIFF .037
15# RG 2.46 DIFF .056
14# RG 2.49 DIFF .053
This ball will fall between Ebonite's Game Changer & Signals

Click here for the BTM Review of the LoMar Private Label / Ebonite Undefeated (http://digitaleditions.bowlingthismonth.com/print.php?pages=35&issue_id=88687&ref=1)

Right click and "Save Link As" to save to your computer.

[MICHAEL]

This ball gave me some fantastic games, first 700 game, not to mention several high 200s,,, 279, 290, 298! It was used when I first got started bowling non sanctioned league, seniors here in Kansas city Missouri! It was after learning the difference between sanctioned and non sanctioned that I decided to try and find more sanctioned leagues to bowl on. Glad I made that change almost four years ago! Other wise I would not have won those two rings last year!

This ball is the model Undefeated that worked for me. I am getting ready to put it in my home made bowling ball oven, then plan on doing a complete Resurface. I assume bowl1820 that this is the model that out of box was 500 1000 and ( I guess I can use reata-shine)..
Not sure on the time and pressure of pads... hard to find info on this ball now.

http://i1243.photobucket.com/albums/gg546/imagine686868/DSC00428_zps9e896ca4.jpg (http://s1243.photobucket.com/user/imagine686868/media/DSC00428_zps9e896ca4.jpg.html)

will be interesting to see if it still has the MAGIC for ICEMAN!! Is my ball the Red/Turquoise/Purple?? where is the turquoise? Maybe my BALL is Special,,, lol,,, ONE OF A FRICKEN KIND!! (:) It really doesn't look exactly like any of the below,? MINE looks two colors,,, Red, and Blue???

http://i1243.photobucket.com/albums/gg546/imagine686868/3431-1_zps0d5db5e0.jpg (http://s1243.photobucket.com/user/imagine686868/media/3431-1_zps0d5db5e0.jpg.html)

I assume this is the same ball even though it looks like the colors may be a LITLLE different, this is the one Granny posted!

OK can rule out the UNDEFEATED FIRE here is a picture:
http://i1243.photobucket.com/albums/gg546/imagine686868/4427-1_zps65317cb6.jpg (http://s1243.photobucket.com/user/imagine686868/media/4427-1_zps65317cb6.jpg.html)

[MICHAEL]

http://i1243.photobucket.com/albums/gg546/imagine686868/EboniteUndefeated2_zps71616fca.jpg (http://s1243.photobucket.com/user/imagine686868/media/EboniteUndefeated2_zps71616fca.jpg.html)

this is not mine for sure... so it must be the one granny mentioned, but the color looks different,,, hummm That must be it,,, the other two are not even close. Of all shown the Color looks right on!! HUMMMM

Maybe that's why my fricken ball is special,,,, its a Freak of Nature,,,, not unlike myself!!!

[bowl1820]

will be interesting to see if it still has the MAGIC for ICEMAN!! Is my ball the Red/Turquoise/Purple?? where is the turquoise? Maybe my BALL is Special,,, lol,,, ONE OF A FRICKEN KIND!! (:) It really doesn't look exactly like any of the below,? MINE looks two colors,,, Red, and Blue???


The colors can vary ball to ball and won't necessarily match the Ad picture , Now Turquoise is a blue/green color. I can see your ball has 3 colors red, blue and purple.

So it's either the overseas version of the Undefeated (possibly the Overseas version of the Undefeated 2 which is a better color match) or the LoMar version.

Since the ball doesn't show the "II" I say it's the LoMar/Ebonite pour.

Either way The Spec's are listed the same for them all in regard to the RG's and Diff.

[MICHAEL]

The colors can vary ball to ball and won't necessarily match the Ad picture , Now Turquoise is a blue/green color. I can see your ball has 3 colors red, blue and purple. So it's either the overseas version of the Undefeated (possibly the Overseas version of the Undefeated 2) or the LoMar version (The spec's are the same)

MY BALL is SPECIAL!!! UNIQUE,,, an Enigma!! thanks for the info about the spec's!!! That was my main question! Now I will get started on making it come back to life!!!

"ITS ALIVE,,,, ITS ALIVE,,,,: (what movie was the famous line from) LOL

[mike_thomas93]

What company was that ball from again, Iceman?

[MICHAEL]

What company was that ball from again, Iceman?

ebonite!!