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Blomer
09-06-2014, 06:14 PM
Still having problems with the 10 pin. I bought a plastic spare ball and still trying to figure it out. During practice it hit 5 in a row and then miss 10. When someone at the center tried to help, they had me go on the right side of the 4th arrow, someone had me move far right. For those who master the 10 pin, any suggestions on how here to start. I know it varies from bowler to bowler , but any tips would be great.

bowl1820
09-06-2014, 06:35 PM
Typically for a right hander throwing a straight ball. you would stand left, targeting around 3rd and 4th arrow.
(Depending on your laydown point etc.)

Going cross alley with a straight ball gives the widest margin of error.

Monte
09-06-2014, 07:23 PM
I agree with bowl1820 here. Picking up the "cross lane" spares is mostly about the "lay down" point and the target point. I'm left handed, so the 10 is relatively easy for me, but I have the 7 to worry about. ;)

Blomer
09-06-2014, 08:09 PM
Typically for a right hander throwing a straight ball. you would stand left, targeting around 3rd and 4th arrow.
(Depending on your laydown point etc.)

Going cross alley with a straight ball gives the widest margin of error.

When you say 3-4th arrow, your talking about counting from the left or right? Just want to be sure. I gotta get this nemesis of mine down! Thanks for the help!

Monte
09-06-2014, 08:37 PM
When you say 3-4th arrow, your talking about counting from the left or right? Just want to be sure. I gotta get this nemesis of mine down! Thanks for the help!

Well, on a "cross lane" shot, the 4th arrow would be the middle one. So, in your case, if you're right handed and shooting for the 10 pin, your aim spot would probably be either the 3rd arrow from the left, the middle arrow, or somewhere in between, depending on where you line up.

I'm left handed, so when I shoot at a 7 pin, I usually stand 5 boards outside the final (outside) spot. I place the edge of my "dominant" foot on the edge of the fifth board. I usually aim just to the right of the middle (4th arrow).

bowl1820
09-06-2014, 08:54 PM
When you say 3-4th arrow, your talking about counting from the left or right? Just want to be sure. I gotta get this nemesis of mine down! Thanks for the help!

A righthanded bowler counts the arrows from the right side.

First Arrow is on board 5
Second arrow is on board 10
Third Arrow is on board 15
Fourth arrow is on board 20
etc.

http://s5.postimg.org/61v88k77r/crossalley10.gif


Here's the basic RH 3-6-9 spare chart which is based off of your strike line:
http://s5.postimg.org/5c5zui5s7/RHsparechart.jpg


Well, on a "cross lane" shot, the 4th arrow would be the middle one. So, in your case, if you're right handed and shooting for the 10 pin, your aim spot would probably be either the 3rd arrow from the left, the middle arrow, or somewhere in between, depending on where you line up.


For a righthand bowler the 3rd arrow from the left would be 5th arrow.

While you could shoot between 4 & 5, you would have to be very far left to get your lay down point in the correct position.

Blomer
09-06-2014, 09:29 PM
[QUOTE=bowl1820;115722]A righthanded bowler counts the arrows from the right side.

First Arrow is on board 5
Second arrow is on board 10
Third Arrow is on board 15
Fourth arrow is on board 20
etc.

http://s5.postimg.org/61v8k77r/crossalley10.gif


Here's the basic RH 3-6-9 spare chart which is based off of your strike line:
http://s5.postimg.org/5c5zui5s7/RHsparechart.jpg



Great that helps a lot! I'll put it to use during practice.

RobLV1
09-06-2014, 10:01 PM
Cross lane on corner spares with a plastic spare ball. Also, why target at the arrows when throwing straight at spares? Pick a spot on the pin, and aim for it. Don't make it more difficult than it is.

Blomer
09-10-2014, 10:01 PM
Finally found my spot. Stand far left and over the 3rd arrow. Hit them all when moved there. Going to go in tomorrow to continue to practice them. This will help me out tremendously.

vdubtx
09-10-2014, 11:12 PM
Finally found my spot. Stand far left and over the 3rd arrow. Hit them all when moved there. Going to go in tomorrow to continue to practice them. This will help me out tremendously.

Yup, that is my target for 6 and 10's.

Blomer
09-11-2014, 10:39 PM
Just wish it didnt take me a year to figure it out!

MICHAEL
09-12-2014, 12:43 AM
I use to have problems, even started thread about the 10 pin. NOW IT is not a problem at all! I rarely miss one, tonight league hit ever one.

I use the Norm Duke method,, I don't have to use plastic at all. I can use any of my power balls. I simple stand far LEFT, ( right handed bowler), walk toward the gutter, (on the far left) and aim 4th arrow, (center arrow) throwing with the palm facing straight UP! All of my balls go straight as an arrow, with a end over end rotation and NO side spin at all. ( I think Norm sometimes throws a back up ball too if I remember correctly) for 10s!

Norm said why waste a slot in your bags for a plastic ball, when you can simple change you release and get any of your balls to WORK just like a plastic ball. I know it has been working for me, for some time now! I don't carry plastic at all anymore, with the exception of my credit cards!! LO

some bowlers and coaches swear by plastic, I don't have a need for plastic at all,,, I used the Deadly Aim (strong ball) tonight to pick up my 10 pins, and like I said got them all!! With the Norm Duke release, I am sure plastic would work just as well, but like Norm said, why carry a plastic, when any of your balls will pick the 10 up with the method mentioned above.

RobLV1
09-12-2014, 06:58 AM
My latest article in BTM is called Buddy Can You Spare a Dime? It's all about spare shooting. In it I reference the fact that the only bowler who can use Norm Duke as a reason for not using plastic is Norm Duke. This goes for you too, Michael. Unless you already average 230+, a plastic ball can only help your game.

MICHAEL
09-12-2014, 08:39 AM
My latest article in BTM is called Buddy Can You Spare a Dime? It's all about spare shooting. In it I reference the fact that the only bowler who can use Norm Duke as a reason for not using plastic is Norm Duke. This goes for you too, Michael. Unless you already average 230+, a plastic ball can only help your game.

No, I don't have a 230 yet...LOL,,, not young enough to get there I fear!! Having just started bowing sanctioned leagues 3 years ago. I just took a peek at my composite average for 2013-14 at USBC, and its 195. So I have a ways to go!

BUT one thing I can say for sure Norm and Ice have in common besides body types, I can pick that 10 pin up most of the time now, where as before I read about Norms technique, I was 50/50, or even worse.

I don't get it Rob??? When I release the ball with speed, and palm up, my ball goes straight as an arrow! Last night my son, 40 years old new to bowling, was having some problems with the pesky 10 pin.

His ball was making that hook just before hitting the pin. I talk to him about releasing the ball with the palm up, and after his first failure, due to poor aiming, he started getting the hang of it, and WALLA,,, he started hitting the pin the rest of the night along with many other spares on the right side using the Norm Duke method of palm up.

Why is it so important to have plastic, when a power ball will work and roll the same way if released with palm up, and speed???

I have always thought if it WORKS, don't try to fix it? Its working for me, and now my son.

COULD IT BE that I have the SAME bowling skills as NORM??? Could this be a DNA thing? After all my real first name is Norm!! I go by my middle name. Could Norm Dude and Iceman be some how related in some strange twist of DNA, somewhere down the evolutionary trail???

SURE,,, with the Palm UP release, I am sure a plastic would work for ICE, but if a Power Ball is working on the 10, WHY USE PLASTIC? WHY?
Rob I don't miss anymore,,, unless I have a senior moment, and miss my 4 arrow!

RobLV1
09-12-2014, 10:10 AM
"BUT one thing I can say for sure Norm and Ice have in common besides body types, I can pick that 10 pin up most of the time now, where as before I read about Norms technique, I was 50/50, or even worse"

Key words here are MOST OF THE TIME. It's also not just the ten pin that we are talking about; it's every single pin and none double-wood spare. How often do you chop the two and the four off of the five? How often do you see your strike ball stop hooking as it crosses the puddle in the middle of the lane to miss the single seven pin on the right? What is your split conversion rate? How about washouts? Norm doesn't pick up the ten pin or any single pin spare "most of the time." You can usually count the number of single pin spares he misses in a month on one finger (or less). As I said in my article, and I will repeat it here, Norm Duke is the only bowler who can use Norm Duke as an excuse for not using a plastic spare ball. Please don't get hung up on all this GIFT nonsense and believe that this doesn't apply to you. It does!

Aslan
09-12-2014, 04:00 PM
My latest article in BTM is called Buddy Can You Spare a Dime? It's all about spare shooting. In it I reference the fact that the only bowler who can use Norm Duke as a reason for not using plastic is Norm Duke. This goes for you too, Michael. Unless you already average 230+, a plastic ball can only help your game.

I read that article.

And...I am in the process of getting a plastic ball.

NOT because of the article...all the stuff in that article I heard via Rob's preaching over the last year or so. But last night I watched a perfectly aimed and perfectly released ball miss the 10-pin with my new, improved release...and it was pretty obvious that this thing was going to be a problem.

Now...am I sold on the whole method talked about in the article? Not yet. I still don't know what method I'll settle on. I'm still very proficient at picking up left side leaves with my strike ball and it requires no change other than lateral movement. The only time I usually miss is if it's a very short sport pattern or if I screw up the release (which would result in a miss anyway you do it). Not ruling it out...NOT ruling it out. But I tried shooting left side leaves with my spare ball and I didn't like it and wasn't any good at it.

The bigger issue is the idea of breaking your wrist EVEN IF you are using a plastic spare ball. THIS I am really going to have to think about. I'd almost rather perfect my back-up ball and throw that than to totally flatten my wrist. Flattening my wrist throws off nearly everything for me including my timing. And with my low rev rate...even on shorter sport patterns...a plastic ball shouldn't move much when thrown with my standard release.

Again...work in progress...I've finally developed a release where going for a plastic ball makes sense to me. I hope to see some positive results. If it is still hooking too much and i gotta change my realease...I'll cross that bridge when I come to it. One baby step at a time...

It wasn't my favorite article. Seemed a little too "preachy"...I like some of your other articles more. Don't get me wrong....it wasn't Joe Slowinski level "preachy"...but still. But, to be fair, I also just didn't really "understand" the whole shadow pin system you were explaining and it was giving me a headache trying to think about it. As you (Rob) know....my head tends to get "to full" at times and I have tried to cram SO much information in there in preparation for the my league title run, the ASLAN V. ICEMAN spectacle, and upcoming sweeps that I'm about at my maximum level. I need to clear some space so I can take in as much from your lesson as possible without my head just exploding.

MICHAEL
09-12-2014, 11:17 PM
I read that article.

And...I am in the process of getting a plastic ball.

NOT because of the article...all the stuff in that article I heard via Rob's preaching over the last year or so. But last night I watched a perfectly aimed and perfectly released ball miss the 10-pin with my new, improved release...and it was pretty obvious that this thing was going to be a problem.

Now...am I sold on the whole method talked about in the article? Not yet. I still don't know what method I'll settle on. I'm still very proficient at picking up left side leaves with my strike ball and it requires no change other than lateral movement. The only time I usually miss is if it's a very short sport pattern or if I screw up the release (which would result in a miss anyway you do it). Not ruling it out...NOT ruling it out. But I tried shooting left side leaves with my spare ball and I didn't like it and wasn't any good at it.

The bigger issue is the idea of breaking your wrist EVEN IF you are using a plastic spare ball. THIS I am really going to have to think about. I'd almost rather perfect my back-up ball and throw that than to totally flatten my wrist. Flattening my wrist throws off nearly everything for me including my timing. And with my low rev rate...even on shorter sport patterns...a plastic ball shouldn't move much when thrown with my standard release.

Again...work in progress...I've finally developed a release where going for a plastic ball makes sense to me. I hope to see some positive results. If it is still hooking too much and i gotta change my realease...I'll cross that bridge when I come to it. One baby step at a time...

It wasn't my favorite article. Seemed a little too "preachy"...I like some of your other articles more. Don't get me wrong....it wasn't Joe Slowinski level "preachy"...but still. But, to be fair, I also just didn't really "understand" the whole shadow pin system you were explaining and it was giving me a headache trying to think about it. As you (Rob) know....my head tends to get "to full" at times and I have tried to cram SO much information in there in preparation for the my league title run, the ASLAN V. ICEMAN spectacle, and upcoming sweeps that I'm about at my maximum level. I need to clear some space so I can take in as much from your lesson as possible without my head just exploding.

ICEMAN,,,, can't,,,,,,believe it!!! I CAN"T BELIEVE IT!!! YOU SOLD OUT, and now your going plastic!!! All because of an article written by ROB!
((Did you know that Rob owns a plastic factory in Vegas, that manufactures,,,,,YES,,, PLASTIC BOWLING BALLS!!! Iceman will be, like his bowling hero, Norm Dude, and continue to use any of his power balls to pick up spares,,, ANY SPARE! Makes no difference,,, YOU SOLD OUT Aslan!!

Aslan
09-13-2014, 12:47 AM
ICEMAN,,,, can't,,,,,,believe it!!! I CAN"T BELIEVE IT!!! YOU SOLD OUT, and now your going plastic!!! All because of an article written by ROB!
((Did you know that Rob owns a plastic factory in Vegas, that manufactures,,,,,YES,,, PLASTIC BOWLING BALLS!!! Iceman will be, like his bowling hero, Norm Dude, and continue to use any of his power balls to pick up spares,,, ANY SPARE! Makes no difference,,, YOU SOLD OUT Aslan!!

I admit, I feel like a bit of a sellout. But, I sold out on lofting and that worked well. I've sold out on keeping my hand behind the ball and that is working out well. So maybe I just need to accept the fact that all of my pre-determined strategies were horrible and I should just do what the expert's consensus opinion is. :eek:

Remember Iceman, you can defy convention because you're gifted. I have to do it the boring, hard way.

RobLV1
09-13-2014, 06:54 AM
Now...am I sold on the whole method talked about in the article? Not yet. I still don't know what method I'll settle on. I'm still very proficient at picking up left side leaves with my strike ball and it requires no change other than lateral movement. The only time I usually miss is if it's a very short sport pattern or if I screw up the release (which would result in a miss anyway you do it). Not ruling it out...NOT ruling it out. But I tried shooting left side leaves with my spare ball and I didn't like it and wasn't any good at it.


You just hit the nail on the head as to why it is so important to learn to use a plastic spare ball an to throw it straight: there are many sport patterns, both long and short, where hooking the ball at left side spares is just not an option (here I go preaching again). I know exactly what you mean about not liking using plastic for left side spares. I've been doing it exclusively for the past six months and my confidence level is just now reaching what it is when I hook at them. On the other side of the coin, my spare percentage on right side spares has gone way up as a result of using the same shot all the time for all non-double-wood spares.

Aslan
09-16-2014, 11:35 PM
You just hit the nail on the head as to why it is so important to learn to use a plastic spare ball an to throw it straight: there are many sport patterns, both long and short, where hooking the ball at left side spares is just not an option (here I go preaching again). I know exactly what you mean about not liking using plastic for left side spares. I've been doing it exclusively for the past six months and my confidence level is just now reaching what it is when I hook at them. On the other side of the coin, my spare percentage on right side spares has gone way up as a result of using the same shot all the time for all non-double-wood spares.

You may actually, despite preaching, be….dare I say…"right".

I mean, just started using plastic for right side…and it is kinda amazing to throw it straight at the pin with my standard release and cringe as it's about to miss left…but it DOESN'T. I can't say I am 100% proficient yet…but I think Monday I went 8 for 13 on single pin right side spares the FIRST night using a plastic ball…and 4 of the 5 misses were in the first 6 games (of 12). So, in other words, after only 6 games of practice…I missed a single-pin on the right side once in the remaining 6 games. THAT would be uncommon for me throwing a resin ball at spares from past experience.

Still gotta figure out left side. Like I said, not ruling it out, "probably" will eventually happen…definitely on shorter (or longer) sport patterns…but one change at a time. It would also help if I could strike 35% of the time so I didn't NEED to make 21-28 spares per night…but thats a whole other challenge!!! :mad:

tmacfanmike
09-18-2014, 12:24 PM
I know I will get crap for the way I pick up my spares. It's very unconventional compared to how most people target their spares. I look at the pin I want to hit then I do a practice swing with my arm going towards the pin and then actually do my approach and line my arm up to the spare. I only miss 1 to 2 spares every series and I think that it pretty good. The only thing I have to watch out for is an attitude, because if I get one I end up not hitting my spare due to no concentration at the line.

RobLV1
09-18-2014, 12:48 PM
I know I will get crap for the way I pick up my spares. It's very unconventional compared to how most people target their spares. I look at the pin I want to hit then I do a practice swing with my arm going towards the pin and then actually do my approach and line my arm up to the spare. I only miss 1 to 2 spares every series and I think that it pretty good. The only thing I have to watch out for is an attitude, because if I get one I end up not hitting my spare due to no concentration at the line.

No crap coming from me. Personally, I don't understand why bowlers automatically assume that you should target at the arrows for everything. I really like looking at the pin that you are trying to pick up for spares, particularly when you start looking at a particular spot on the pin and hit it consistently.

MICHAEL
09-18-2014, 03:12 PM
No crap coming from me. Personally, I don't understand why bowlers automatically assume that you should target at the arrows for everything. I really like looking at the pin that you are trying to pick up for spares, particularly when you start looking at a particular spot on the pin and hit it consistently.


Makes sense Rob,,, when Walter Ray throws horse shoes, (which he is ranked very good at), he doesn't throw his horse shoe using various lumps of grass, or even arrows!

He uses his hand eye coordination to target his pole! I might just give that a shot tonight at the Mom and Pop wood lanes in Plattsburg tonight.

Aslan
09-18-2014, 06:40 PM
Makes sense Rob,,, when Walter Ray throws horse shoes, (which he is ranked very good at), he doesn't throw his horse shoe using various lumps of grass, or even arrows!

He uses his hand eye coordination to target his pole! I might just give that a shot tonight at the Mom and Pop wood lanes in Plattsburg tonight.


That 'may' be the WORST analogy ever used on bowlingboards.com. Not sure. Not sure if Bowl1820 keeps track of such things. But WOW.

See Ice, horseshoes aren't 'rolled' therefore targeting a spot between you and the ringer pole would not be of any help whatsoever.

A better analogy would be putting in golf. Most people, on a 20ft putt...are going to visualize the line the ball will take from the club to the hole and then pick out a target on that line and aim for that target. On shorter putts they might aim for a spot just in front of the cup. Now sure, you "can" aim for the cup from 20ft out. And I'm sure some people do. Bowling is about ROLLING a ball over a target. And as it has been said for about 50 years now...hitting a target closer to you is much easier than hitting one far away. THATs why we use arrows or dots or boards and not pins.

But, at the end of the day, it's whatever works for you that is important.

J Anderson
09-18-2014, 10:28 PM
Bowling is about ROLLING a ball over a target. And as it has been said for about 50 years now...hitting a target closer to you is much easier than hitting one far away. THATs why we use arrows or dots or boards and not pins.

But, at the end of the day, it's whatever works for you that is important.

For people throwing the ball straight or almost straight using the arrows is not that important. Once your ball starts consistently hooking more than 5 boards the dots and arrows on the lane become much more useful. Without the markings one would have to figure which pin, possibly one on an adjacent lane, to aim at in order for the ball to hook into the pocket. My guess is that the average person trying to aim this way would pull almost every ball at first since their ultimate goal, the pocket, would be in their field of vision.

I think bowlers who throw straight at single pin spares and still use the arrows or dots do so more out of habit than because of the ease in hitting a closer target.

vdubtx
09-19-2014, 12:06 AM
No crap coming from me. Personally, I don't understand why bowlers automatically assume that you should target at the arrows for everything. I really like looking at the pin that you are trying to pick up for spares, particularly when you start looking at a particular spot on the pin and hit it consistently.

I have to admit, I am an arrows guy for picking up my 10 pins.

I did read this earlier today and decided to try it in warm ups for league this evening. After making 2 in practice I decided to continue with it if I left a 10 pin during play. Sure enough, game 1 I left 3, all of them converted without looking at the arrows, I targeted the pin down lane. For now, will keep at it with targeting the pin and see how it goes. :cool:

MICHAEL
09-19-2014, 06:43 AM
That 'may' be the WORST analogy ever used on bowlingboards.com. Not sure. Not sure if Bowl1820 keeps track of such things. But WOW.

See Ice, horseshoes aren't 'rolled' therefore targeting a spot between you and the ringer pole would not be of any help whatsoever.

A better analogy would be putting in golf. Most people, on a 20ft putt...are going to visualize the line the ball will take from the club to the hole and then pick out a target on that line and aim for that target. On shorter putts they might aim for a spot just in front of the cup. Now sure, you "can" aim for the cup from 20ft out. And I'm sure some people do. Bowling is about ROLLING a ball over a target. And as it has been said for about 50 years now...hitting a target closer to you is much easier than hitting one far away. THATs why we use arrows or dots or boards and not pins.

But, at the end of the day, it's whatever works for you that is important.

THE WORST!!! THE Worst analogy on bowlingbaords.com might be your handle... Aslan!!!! LIION King????

Don't think for a minute that ONE of the reasons Walter Ray, (you American Idol) doesn't bowel the way he has, and does because he is
a tournament level Horse Shoe throwing machine!!

I sent Walter a email yesterday and after mutual complementary exchanges of admiration between ourselves, he said you don't know Squat!

He said the aiming/targeting and arm movement, even the follow though was very similar, and that you need to stick to things you know something about. Walter went on to say, you have probably never thrown a house shoe in your life, and the closest you ever came to it would be YOUR Horsing Around on bowlingboards.com.

He said, TARGETING is TARGETING! It doesn't matter if your rolling a ball, throwing a horseshoe, or making love!

Next time you find the need to denigrate ICEMAN for his use of analogies,,, you need to Call Walter! YES, Aslan, Walter and Iceman are tight!
He said to tell you to read the book he wrote 8 years ago entitled: ( Bowling and Horseshoes) chapter 1, similarities of targeting spare pins, and the game of horseshoes.

Get the book!!! It just might help you when we meet in Vegas!!! I am not horsing around here!!! Learn from your idol! He then ask Iceman for some advice in regards to bowling techniques, and we parted ways. Its just nice knowing that Walter is there for me, and Iceman is always there for him!

A BIG THANKS WALTER, for the LINK: https://search.yahoo.com/search;_ylt=A0LEVxqsGhxU2vYAGzlXNyoA;_ylc=X1MDMjc2 NjY3OQRfcgMyBGZyA3lteXktdC05OTkEZ3ByaWQDNDRBSWJkcl dSTUdIR2NWYzZEZFVXQQRuX3JzbHQDMARuX3N1Z2cDMTAEb3Jp Z2luA3NlYXJjaC55YWhvby5jb20EcG9zAzEEcHFzdHIDd2FsBH Bxc3RybAMzBHFzdHJsAzMxBHF1ZXJ5A3dhbHRlciByYXkgdGhy b3dpbmcgaG9yc2Ugc2hvZXMEdF9zdG1wAzE0MTExMjg0OTI-?p=walter+ray+throwing+horse+shoes&fr2=sa-gp-search&fr=ymyy-t-999&type=2button

Walter at 13 years old not horsing around, but throwing horse shoes, and good at it! A lot of what has made him the bowler he is, he attributes to horse shoes!

Aslan
09-19-2014, 02:06 PM
I have to admit, I am an arrows guy for picking up my 10 pins.

I did read this earlier today and decided to try it in warm ups for league this evening. After making 2 in practice I decided to continue with it if I left a 10 pin during play. Sure enough, game 1 I left 3, all of them converted without looking at the arrows, I targeted the pin down lane. For now, will keep at it with targeting the pin and see how it goes. :cool:

I might try it too. Logically it doesn't seem to make sense. But the last half of game 3 I missed a few make-able spares with the plastic ball and 2 of 3 were pulled shots where I technically hit my target...it just was "a minutia" off. If I were to develop a way where I aim further down the lane (at the pin) then perhaps I'll follow-through better and not pull the shots. It's not that aiming at the pin is better than at a "spot"...it's just that it might help me follow-through and not pull the shot.

And Iceman....HOW DARE YOU use the great WRW's name in vain!! You should have to wash out your mouth with soap!! NO....you did not email him. NO...he did not respond. NO...he doesn't agree with you about ANYTHING!! Stop your FIBBING!!! I wasn't all motivated and fired up to humiliate you in Vegas...but when you start to make up stuff about the great WRW...THATs where I draw the line!! You are hereby NOT allowed to mention him, think about him, stalk him, or in any way interact with him. He is MY bowling idol and I already called "dibs" on him so you go find somebody else!!!

vdubtx
09-19-2014, 02:14 PM
I might try it too. Logically it doesn't seem to make sense.

Per my experience, your view of logic is flawed.

Amyers
09-19-2014, 02:42 PM
I might try it too. Logically it doesn't seem to make sense. But the last half of game 3 I missed a few make-able spares with the plastic ball and 2 of 3 were pulled shots where I technically hit my target...it just was "a minutia" off. If I were to develop a way where I aim further down the lane (at the pin) then perhaps I'll follow-through better and not pull the shots. It's not that aiming at the pin is better than at a "spot"...it's just that it might help me follow-through and not pull the shot.

And Iceman....HOW DARE YOU use the great WRW's name in vain!! You should have to wash out your mouth with soap!! NO....you did not email him. NO...he did not respond. NO...he doesn't agree with you about ANYTHING!! Stop your FIBBING!!! I wasn't all motivated and fired up to humiliate you in Vegas...but when you start to make up stuff about the great WRW...THATs where I draw the line!! You are hereby NOT allowed to mention him, think about him, stalk him, or in any way interact with him. He is MY bowling idol and I already called "dibs" on him so you go find somebody else!!!

Why do I think WRW just face palmed himself. If he dosent outright retire.

vdubtx
09-24-2014, 09:52 AM
Continued my work on targetting the 10 pin vs. a spot on the lane, went 2 for 2 last night. Since changing to the pin target, I am 8 for 8! :cool:

SheBowls
09-26-2014, 01:30 PM
Continued my work on targetting the 10 pin vs. a spot on the lane, went 2 for 2 last night. Since changing to the pin target, I am 8 for 8!


You and me both!!! I tried this method in league yesterday and got every single 10-pin.

vdubtx
09-26-2014, 10:45 PM
Missed one last night. Now 11 for 12 since targeting at pin.

dnhoffman
09-27-2014, 09:33 PM
I throw at a dot for 7 pins a board at the line for my 10 pins...I'm weird

Sourtower
09-28-2014, 09:41 AM
I've always targeted the specific pin I was aiming at instead of targeting the dots or arrows on the lane. When I am looking down at a target instead of up at a pin, I feel like my swing and follow through isn't as consistent as when I'm looking straight forward and at the pin.

fortheloveofbowling
09-28-2014, 10:52 AM
The key is using a spot with your feet and eyes that make you feel comfortable. That can be said really with any shot.

mc_runner
09-28-2014, 01:13 PM
Tried the pin targeting approach while out at blacklight bowl (yeah at one of those boutique alleys!) for a friend's party last night. Made 3/4 but it didn't really feel consistent, like I nearly guttered one, and nearly whiffed another, but I guess all that matters is if they were made? Could be worth a try.

On a side note, I was actually impressed with the alley. Yeah they had all the usual nice bar, DJ, upscale food, etc but the lane conditions were actually pretty solid outside of a little stickiness on the approach and it was a lot of fun. edit: Was surprised to say that as a "serious" league bowler, guess its all in how you approach it. Generally I don't like open bowl a whole lot but the atmosphere made it fun.

Steven B
09-28-2014, 06:47 PM
I recently changed my foot placement and targeting to get more ten pins. Instead of being completely cross lane, I moved one set of dots on the approach right, and I target the right middle dot on the lane at the first set of dots past the foul line. I've been doing much better. It's a more direct shot for me.