samdasham
11-19-2014, 08:52 PM
New meat & found this thread in a search. I didn't attempt to be a spinner per se, yet in searching for a wee bit of action in my conventional grip/straight bowling I'm kinda/sorta/not really. I'm using an old '98 Brunswick Eclipse reactive urethane 15lb 4 oz. It was being used as a house ball and was given to me as it was close to my hand/fingers size. Had the thumb/fingers opened up and my palm doesn't touch the ball even w/palm padded glove. My wrist is straight w/arm though the angle of the drilling prevents me from ever dropping the ball. Twenty-three games Sunday and my average 1st/2nd ball speed were both 16+. After 15 or so games I started using a 14lb house ball for spares.
Because I started throwing straight I'm all the way over on the right and, when my arm is fresh, I can roll over the second arrow-just outside w/slow mini-arc and hit the pocket. I can see the line on my ball from spinning. It's in front of the holes and the line encircles roughly 1/3 of the ball. I've since learned that means no flare. Right-handed my index finger is under the ball as if I was probing for a prostate. Release is 180* CCW swivel and I'm a five stepper in approach.
When throwing spares I move up using a 3/4 approach and start swing w/arm down pulling it straight back w/o any pendullem momentum. I also line my right/throwing arm up perpendicular w/where I'm aiming to hit the pin(s) from the center of the lane on spares. I will throw across the lane for pins in the corners. Especially the left side.
So much for my Fred Flintstone style of bowling. I understand the spinners are using lighter balls though I'm not quite sure if I wish to go that route. What I'd like to know is what style cores do they use. I see pictures of the asymmetrical cores that appear to be mushroom shaped/heavier on the top side to promote a hook w/proper drilling. I wondered if drilled for a spinner would the heavier end be out in front, opposite side of drilling, to promote stability in the spin, heavier side close to lane, or on the back side right in front of the fingers/thumb to encourage lateral movement upon impact. Can a ball be drilled in that fashion? I'm not sure how large the cores are in current offering of balls.
I'm thinking about buying a couple of balls and having them drilled for my hand, but I'm at a loss as to what I want/need. i understand that straight I have at best a 1.87* window to the pocket. Even w/this relic I can obtain a wee bit of movement for a teenie-tiny arc. I've little doubt w/newer ball that I could snag more. I think I want a solid cover ball w/asymmetrical core. A mushroom style core w/cap centered to my palm. My idea is that w/weight high it could promote flare and possibly hit harder off the first deflection. Of course that's merely speculation in me mind.
Sundays are cheap games & I usually bowl 18 games give or take. Wed or Thur depending on how I feel I go in early and bowl 4-5 games. Lately I've kept track of 2-four game averages during the week. I'm roughly 120. The 23 games had my low/84/high 177/average 111. I don't usually use a spare ball, so the lighter 14 lb allowed me to hang in for a few extra. I've been at this routine for a few months and consider the Sunday marathons as a gym work out. The crowd/kids/noise will test my ability of concentration and being able to ignore peripheral movement. I'm trying to score well, but mostly working on repetition/endurance.
I bought some shoes w/removable heels/soles a couple of months ago and still have issues w/sticking instead of sliding. I'm going to have to order some #10 felt soles it seems as my finish has me imitating a hood ornament. I asked the operator at one house. He sez they clean the approach w/water & alcohol. Fair enough, yet when I stroll over to about #12 lane and test it out I note I can slide. There & further down are the lanes used by league bowlers. I have to alter my approach to include a stutter step on the push-off or my left sole will stick. Otherwise, besides bothering my knee & quad, it will soon have my left leg breaking down w/hop and the other following for a step or two in the lane.
Anywho, if I ever read/hear the word arsenal again it'll be too soon. For a moment I thought I was in a gun forum. I've learned a lot over the past few days perusing various threads here. Along w/searches and copying/pasting various articles/aspects of the game. I'll never throw the ball w/holes pointing to the right w/ball spinning towards me. Nor will i ever cup a wrist. I like a straight/broken wrist from the get-go and wish to continue CCW spinning. After 3-4 games I'm running 16.5 mph-18 and change at the pins. I like throwing the ball hard. Even on 3/4 spare shots I'm holding nothing back.
Any help on equipment in my quest for this style will be appreciated. I plan on buying a plastic ball for spares at 14 lbs. As well I'm looking at older, read discounted, balls for more bite than the old Brunswick can manage. It is a roller even in the oil, but if I employ a plastic for spares then whatever I end up shootin' for strikes is going to see little oil from the far right.
I need help in formulating a plan to first break 200 and then maintain an average of 200+. I'm putting in the hours every week hurling balls at two houses. I can order #10 soles and slide, but I need to spend a wee bit o' time studying on a 15 lb ball w/asymmetrical core that can be drilled for a spinner. Not just a spinner as I aspire to be a power spinner. Is there such a legendary creature? Maybe they're looking for him on a show from the Discovery channel.
My revs are bound to be low, so I figure something aggressive in coverstock and lower #grit would be appropriate. I'm looking at various balls, that have been out awhile, available online. I'd like to try one for strikes that's 75- 130 simoleons or so. Whaddya think guys n gals? It ain't April fools and though I'm committed to the cause, probably should be at the very least a ward of the state, I need a sign.
Not the one I receive from other drivers that I cut-off.
Because I started throwing straight I'm all the way over on the right and, when my arm is fresh, I can roll over the second arrow-just outside w/slow mini-arc and hit the pocket. I can see the line on my ball from spinning. It's in front of the holes and the line encircles roughly 1/3 of the ball. I've since learned that means no flare. Right-handed my index finger is under the ball as if I was probing for a prostate. Release is 180* CCW swivel and I'm a five stepper in approach.
When throwing spares I move up using a 3/4 approach and start swing w/arm down pulling it straight back w/o any pendullem momentum. I also line my right/throwing arm up perpendicular w/where I'm aiming to hit the pin(s) from the center of the lane on spares. I will throw across the lane for pins in the corners. Especially the left side.
So much for my Fred Flintstone style of bowling. I understand the spinners are using lighter balls though I'm not quite sure if I wish to go that route. What I'd like to know is what style cores do they use. I see pictures of the asymmetrical cores that appear to be mushroom shaped/heavier on the top side to promote a hook w/proper drilling. I wondered if drilled for a spinner would the heavier end be out in front, opposite side of drilling, to promote stability in the spin, heavier side close to lane, or on the back side right in front of the fingers/thumb to encourage lateral movement upon impact. Can a ball be drilled in that fashion? I'm not sure how large the cores are in current offering of balls.
I'm thinking about buying a couple of balls and having them drilled for my hand, but I'm at a loss as to what I want/need. i understand that straight I have at best a 1.87* window to the pocket. Even w/this relic I can obtain a wee bit of movement for a teenie-tiny arc. I've little doubt w/newer ball that I could snag more. I think I want a solid cover ball w/asymmetrical core. A mushroom style core w/cap centered to my palm. My idea is that w/weight high it could promote flare and possibly hit harder off the first deflection. Of course that's merely speculation in me mind.
Sundays are cheap games & I usually bowl 18 games give or take. Wed or Thur depending on how I feel I go in early and bowl 4-5 games. Lately I've kept track of 2-four game averages during the week. I'm roughly 120. The 23 games had my low/84/high 177/average 111. I don't usually use a spare ball, so the lighter 14 lb allowed me to hang in for a few extra. I've been at this routine for a few months and consider the Sunday marathons as a gym work out. The crowd/kids/noise will test my ability of concentration and being able to ignore peripheral movement. I'm trying to score well, but mostly working on repetition/endurance.
I bought some shoes w/removable heels/soles a couple of months ago and still have issues w/sticking instead of sliding. I'm going to have to order some #10 felt soles it seems as my finish has me imitating a hood ornament. I asked the operator at one house. He sez they clean the approach w/water & alcohol. Fair enough, yet when I stroll over to about #12 lane and test it out I note I can slide. There & further down are the lanes used by league bowlers. I have to alter my approach to include a stutter step on the push-off or my left sole will stick. Otherwise, besides bothering my knee & quad, it will soon have my left leg breaking down w/hop and the other following for a step or two in the lane.
Anywho, if I ever read/hear the word arsenal again it'll be too soon. For a moment I thought I was in a gun forum. I've learned a lot over the past few days perusing various threads here. Along w/searches and copying/pasting various articles/aspects of the game. I'll never throw the ball w/holes pointing to the right w/ball spinning towards me. Nor will i ever cup a wrist. I like a straight/broken wrist from the get-go and wish to continue CCW spinning. After 3-4 games I'm running 16.5 mph-18 and change at the pins. I like throwing the ball hard. Even on 3/4 spare shots I'm holding nothing back.
Any help on equipment in my quest for this style will be appreciated. I plan on buying a plastic ball for spares at 14 lbs. As well I'm looking at older, read discounted, balls for more bite than the old Brunswick can manage. It is a roller even in the oil, but if I employ a plastic for spares then whatever I end up shootin' for strikes is going to see little oil from the far right.
I need help in formulating a plan to first break 200 and then maintain an average of 200+. I'm putting in the hours every week hurling balls at two houses. I can order #10 soles and slide, but I need to spend a wee bit o' time studying on a 15 lb ball w/asymmetrical core that can be drilled for a spinner. Not just a spinner as I aspire to be a power spinner. Is there such a legendary creature? Maybe they're looking for him on a show from the Discovery channel.
My revs are bound to be low, so I figure something aggressive in coverstock and lower #grit would be appropriate. I'm looking at various balls, that have been out awhile, available online. I'd like to try one for strikes that's 75- 130 simoleons or so. Whaddya think guys n gals? It ain't April fools and though I'm committed to the cause, probably should be at the very least a ward of the state, I need a sign.
Not the one I receive from other drivers that I cut-off.