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Last wed in league shot a 203-171-204, could have been much better, the first game threw a 9 in the 10th and missed the spare, started the 2nd game with 3 opens!
Went out today to try a practice some 10 pins, that cost me a lot on wed, I think I missed 5 or 6 of them over the night. Then the last game (of 4) decided I would just throw a regular game and see if the practice helped. I guess it must have, the lanes were a little too dry for the Hyper Cell Skid so I was using the Rhino Gold Pro. Started off with a few strikes and just kept on throwing strikes, finally the 11th I left a 7 pin of all things and picked it up to finish with my best game ever a 289.
This week shot 215-162-213 / 590 First and second game with Gold Rhino Pro and last game with the Roto-grip Hyper cell skid
The rhino felt stronger in practice and the lanes were pretty heavy oil as usual, probably should have been throwing the skid all night
Aslan
04-17-2015, 02:23 AM
The Vintage Rhino looked pretty damn good whe Parker was throwing it at the PBA50 event this week.
The Vintage Rhino looked pretty damn good whe Parker was throwing it at the PBA50 event this week.
It's a nice ball, the main problem with my Rhino is the guy rolling it down the lanes !
Last week of the season was a sweeper round. We usually pull out some good games and win some extra money, but that was not how the program went tonight.
I was having some pain in my elbow and one of the results was a even less consistent release for me. Two of my teammates also had slight injuries that hampered them a little also. OK enough talk the scores for Wed were 169-191-151 for a 511. Ended the season same as last season with a 180 average.
Have been throwing some practice for the upcoming season Aug 26th, decided to just throw a 4 game set as if it was during league
Ended up doing pretty good, 189, 204, 243, 199, I would be pretty happy to run an average like that during the season but am shooting for a slightly more realistic goal of 200.
John Anderson
08-04-2015, 05:30 PM
Have been throwing some practice for the upcoming season Aug 26th, decided to just throw a 4 game set as if it was during league
Ended up doing pretty good, 189, 204, 243, 199, I would be pretty happy to run an average like that during the season but am shooting for a slightly more realistic goal of 200.
Very nice consistency there. I'll happily take those scores as well.
Went out and did a little experimenting on release and then got a 3 game set in
Had a 222, 220, 202 ... had 6 in a row in the first game and then missed a couple of spares I should have made. Overall I'm pretty happy with where I ended up for this practice session
manke
08-13-2015, 03:17 PM
Keep it up!!
Went back to the lanes for some practice.
Shot a 192, 190, 196, 189, and 215 for a 196 avg.
I would be pretty happy if I can start the season out with some scores like this.
Today's practice games
Practicing releases 179
Then threw a 3 game set 257 / 234 / 190
tried to move deeper a couple of frames in the last game and that didn't work or would have been over 200 .
Start of wed league
started with a 178 / 217 / 149
The first game ended with 5 strikes and second game started out with 6 strikes then I dropped the next one right in the ditch ...
Third game was disappointing because I left 4 10 pins and missed every one, had I hit them would have been a 190's game.
Not too bad for a first night out I guess, ended up with a 181 average for the night, don't know if we won any games because they don't
have the handicaps set up yet.
bowl1820
09-03-2015, 09:28 AM
The first game ended with 5 strikes and second game started out with 6 strikes then I dropped the next one right in the ditch ...
T.
You almost had a "Andy Varipapa 300" game there!
You almost had a "Andy Varipapa 300" game there!
Maybe I should try his trick make the spare with the first ball shot...
Second night of wed league 203/176/149---528
I'm a bit disappointed had 6 or 7 in a row and dropped a ball in the gutter but picked up the spare, then couldn't finish at the end and opened the 9th and 10th
had I converted would have been a 240 game....and so the night went second game had 5 in a row I think and opened the last 3 frames , same with the 3rd game had a struggle but couldn't finish and again opened 9 and 10
Left several washouts 1 2 4 10 and couldn't pick them up, on a good note did convert most of the 10 pins and 10/8's
Maybe I shouldn't be too disappointed, at this point last year I was at 160 for avg and didn't get it moved up to 178 where I am now until week 17 .
I am throwing the ball a lot better and need to get back my finishing skills and make better adjustments next week.
Did a better job tonight, only left one 10 pin and converted it, converted most of my spare opportunities, even a couple of really tough ones.
186 / 188 / 219 593
Amyers
09-17-2015, 08:45 AM
Did a better job tonight, only left one 10 pin and converted it, converted most of my spare opportunities, even a couple of really tough ones.
186 / 188 / 219 593
Nice bowling Tony almost had the 600
Week 4
2 ok games with a crap game between.
184- 149- 182 / 515
Had trouble all night on lane 8 , couldn't string strikes together and didn't get strikes or even marks in the 10th
Bowled as a sub in a morning league, they bowl 4 games every week !
As fate would have it I was bowling on the exact same lanes as the wed night league !
Today I rolled 239--167---181---201 for a 788 0r 197 avg
They have 3 man teams, I was bowling with one older retired guy who looks like a cross between Santa and Jesus and a younger kid who is the night manager of another bowling center.
A rough first game with a 150 then settled down for 193 and 201 for a 544
On a side note we did have some pretty good bowling going on around us, a guy on one side of us had an 801 and a guy to the other side threw a 299....
Aslan
10-08-2015, 02:06 PM
I was bowling with one older retired guy who looks like a cross between Santa and Jesus
ICEMAN??! Was he wearing sandals? Was he Gifted? Did he mention being a "God"? Are you in Missouri?
ICEMAN??! Was he wearing sandals? Was he Gifted? Did he mention being a "God"? Are you in Missouri?
No sandals, says his name is Jim, but it says St. Peter on the bowling screen ! We are in Illinois, but it's only 4 1/2 hours to St Louis...by car .
Started out trying to follow the coaching advice I was given where your first step and ball move at the same time.
That did work out so well shot a 121 ! worst game in recent memory. For the second and third game went back to my normal timing where I take the first step without moving the ball shot a 222 and a 218, for a 561, not too bad considering the 121
Also tried a new ball and line, with the surface adjusted to 4000 on the Hy-Road tried to play a more down and in shot 15/10 12 /8 around there, the ball is still too strong for that but ended up 22 -25 / 10-12 and the ball was beautiful !
(thanks Amyers for the ball surface tips)
Amyers
10-15-2015, 10:07 AM
Glad to hear that you found a line that works. 222-218 not too shabby. I struggle throwing inside of 18 without making major shifts in my swing so glad it's working for you. If your starting the ball on the second step of a four step delivery you have a coping mechanism or you wouldn't be able to throw those kind of scores. You need to identify what the coping mechanism is before you start trying to change when you start your swing so you can work on both at the same time. You're speeding up your feet, abbreviating your swing, speeding the ball up, or something to compensate. It's probably a combination of some or all of these but you can't change your swing start by that much and expect everything else to work together. if your going to change something like that you need to do it in practice by yourself when you can just throw one ball after another to develop the feel of it. Try to set aside enough time to throw at least 5 games with it. Congrats on the nice scores and glad to hear the surface change helped
vdubtx
10-15-2015, 10:45 AM
Started out trying to follow the coaching advice I was given where your first step and ball move at the same time.
That did work out so well shot a 121 ! worst game in recent memory. For the second and third game went back to my normal timing where I take the first step without moving the ball shot a 222 and a 218, for a 561, not too bad considering the 121
Also tried a new ball and line, with the surface adjusted to 4000 on the Hy-Road tried to play a more down and in shot 15/10 12 /8 around there, the ball is still too strong for that but ended up 22 -25 / 10-12 and the ball was beautiful !
(thanks Amyers for the ball surface tips)
Hopefully you didn't try that the first time in league setting. Are you a 5 step or 4 step?
If it was practice, stick with it. May seem a bit off at first when you incorporate something different. In the long run it will help you to get your timing where it needs to be.
Nice shooting 2nd and 3rd games.
Glad to hear that you found a line that works. 222-218 not too shabby. I struggle throwing inside of 18 without making major shifts in my swing so glad it's working for you. If your starting the ball on the second step of a four step delivery you have a coping mechanism or you wouldn't be able to throw those kind of scores. You need to identify what the coping mechanism is before you start trying to change when you start your swing so you can work on both at the same time. You're speeding up your feet, abbreviating your swing, speeding the ball up, or something to compensate. It's probably a combination of some or all of these but you can't change your swing start by that much and expect everything else to work together. if your going to change something like that you need to do it in practice by yourself when you can just throw one ball after another to develop the feel of it. Try to set aside enough time to throw at least 5 games with it. Congrats on the nice scores and glad to hear the surface change helped
Yes, not sure what I do or if I even want to change it ! Funny thing is one of the other guys I bowl with asked me what I was doing / trying to do and noticed when I was trying to do it the "correct" way it looked like I was dropping the ball, and I was it like I was early with the ball . Then he went up and realized he does the same thing as I do, starting the ball on 2nd step....he has had a 200+ average the last 10 + years. He's the Gold Rhino guy and he shot 630 or something with it last night.
I am pretty amazed at how much the Hy-Road still turns even with a 4000 finish.
Hopefully you didn't try that the first time in league setting. Are you a 5 step or 4 step?
If it was practice, stick with it. May seem a bit off at first when you incorporate something different. In the long run it will help you to get your timing where it needs to be.
Nice shooting 2nd and 3rd games.
I did try it in league play, as a result ended up with the 112. As luck would have it I realized when I read the post from Rob about the old traditional ways and modern methods that what I was doing was his first example, I use a 4 step approach taking the first step without moving the ball, then the second step start the ball and walk slowly. I now realize why I had to take my hyroad up to a dull 4000 finish to play 22 -24 and 10-12 where a bunch of the other guys throwing them and playing 15 / 10.
I first started learning to bowl(if you can call it that) back in the 80', and have thrown using that approach since then. I don't think changing at this point is an option!
RobLV1
10-16-2015, 12:50 AM
I don't think changing at this point is an option!
As a long time teacher and student, I can tell you with complete cofidence that in my own case, when I quit learning and quit changing, I will be dead! Just sayin'.
As a long time teacher and student, I can tell you with complete cofidence that in my own case, when I quit learning and quit changing, I will be dead! Just sayin'.
I have changed many things and experimented in practice with changing my timing. The more I read the less I see that makes me think it would be to my advantage, after all I see articles by top coaches talking about reasons to add late timing to your game. I guess I'm not confident there is a good reason to make this change. After bowling dozens of games trying to get used to normal 4 step timing and seeing the result in my game I'm also not confident it's in my best interest to continue trying to change it.
I went to a gold coach and he helped me change a number of things, he never once suggested I try changing my timing, in fact he said my timing and release were the strong points of my game.
Subbed in a morning league and using the Hy-Road 198-208-165-191 for a 762 or 190.5 per game avg
Still missed a few more spares than I would like and didn't adjust enough early in the 3 rd game so started off with 3 opens.
Did manage to get the 6/10 pins dialed in , in fact only missed one, it was 6/10 and I slipped the ball outside the 6 and just got the 10 !
Overall I'm fairly happy with today's bowling.
Wed Night league started off slow, had 2 7-10 leaves on near pocket hits in 1st game 1 150-220-205 575 / 192
Wed night league 193 160 210 563 / 187.6
Bowled thur am sub, 193, 232, 147, 208 / 780 .....the really sad part was on the 232 and the 208 I opened in the 10th
could have been a 268 and 243 with 3 strikes
game 2 was x 7 2 x x x x x x x 6 3
Funny part was the lanes were a little dry , so I bowled the first 3 games with the DV8 outcast and the last game went with the Hy-road
Had a good night on the Wed league , 223 - 203 -180 606 / 202
Bowled in the Friday morning league, this a 4 game league
212 - 222 - 191 - 217 3 game 625 / 4 game 842 Ave 210
Not bad considering I was averaging 176 in this league.
Won 40 points last with just 2 of us (out of three)
Won 46 points / 0f 50 , I think that puts us in third place.
I realized that I have not posted much in here lately, and frankly wasn't anything much to report, several low and mid 500 series , today looked like another one of those days, Fri morning league shot a whopping 147...We were bowling a position round against the number one team and I was up against their top bowler who is also the high average of the league 237 or so.
I was watching the line being played by another of their players who is also carrying a 230 average.
i moved a little and lined up left foot on 22 throwing out at 15 at the dots and 11-12 at the arrows. I was keeping my hand behind the ball more and just rolling it down the lane. Low and behold I kept getting strikes and ended up with 225-245-241 to finish out the series. I even ended up winning points on game 2 ,3 and 4.
The Reverend on their team even offered me his free drink ticket and one of the other guys suggested I might want to rest that ball and use another ball ..... fun group of guys to bowl with! ( I was using a Storm IQ Tour 30 )
Wed night league, started out pretty good but left the 10th open on the first two games , miserable finishes and did miss a couple of exisisting Did strike / spare 10th in game 3 192-185-200 577
considering with a mark in the 10th should have made it over 600, not great scores, but could be worse.
Wed night league, the guys we played had a great night the low man was a 674, one guy had a low 700 and the other 2 were over 750!
Lucky we won any games at but we did get one
I had a pretty good night, still had trouble finishing the game, had opens in the 10 in game 1 and 3
170-202-234 606
Game 3 10th just swung it a little outside and left a 6 7 split and couldn't pick it up....
RobLV1
12-31-2015, 03:30 PM
Hmm... four open tenths in six games? One thing you need to figure out: is it a fear of failure, or a fear of success. Either can be devestating, but figuring it out will make it easier to address. I once had a student who was in a similar situation. At one lesson he threw the first strike in the tenth, and I asked him what he was going to do next. He replied, "Throw the next two." I handed him two bowling balls at once, and he got the point. The tenth frame is like any other frame, as long as you take it one shot at a time.
Yes, now that you mention it I usually walk up in the 10th thinking about what my max score would be if I strike out, I would say that's not taking one shot at a time !
RobLV1
12-31-2015, 05:11 PM
Yes, now that you mention it I usually walk up in the 10th thinking about what my max score would be if I strike out, I would say that's not taking one shot at a time !
Now that you know, can you change it? :)
Now that you know, can you change it? :)
Not sure if there is any trick to it, I know sometimes I tighten up a bit and try to aim it instead of just throwing like prior frames. I have to stay loose and make my normal throw.
RobLV1
01-03-2016, 04:06 PM
Not sure if there is any trick to it, I know sometimes I tighten up a bit and try to aim it instead of just throwing like prior frames. I have to stay loose and make my normal throw.
The trick is to forget the whole max score thing, and just think "add ten" with each ball you throw.
The trick is to forget the whole max score thing, and just think "add ten" with each ball you throw.
Right, seems like I am better off if I don't pay attention to my score.
bowl1820
01-03-2016, 08:44 PM
Right, seems like I am better off if I don't pay attention to my score.
Most of the time you are better off not worrying about score, it just adds more pressure you don't need.
It's like when I get in brackets, I just wait until the last game is done then check if I made it.
I use to be like a lot guys run up there and check after every game, if I' made it through the first round. I'd see who I bowl next and what they did the game before to see what kind of game I have maybe shoot. Then when bowling worrying if I'm on a high enough scoring pace.
You better off just relaxing and bowl your game.
Probably wasn't the best idea to bowl tonight (Wednesday)as I just got a cortisone shot in my thumb (Tuesday) to hopefully help the problems I have been having with trigger thumb.
Got to the center about 30 minutes before league was supposed to start and was met with a packed parking lot and a high school tournament in progress. They totally botched the lane assignments and instead of the championship matches on the lanes where the beer and pizza league that starts at 7 they were on the lanes we are supposed to bowl on at 6. This resulted in our whole league waiting around for an hour and a half before we could start.
I could never really get a rhythm going and shot 175 / 185 / 195 555 (185)
I did manage to get a mark in the 10th of games 2 and 3 but overall not too thrilled with my effort.
I couldn't string any strikes together but managed to pick up most of my spare opportunities, with the exception of a few splits and a 6/10 I chopped.
It was a great night, one of my teammates made it down to bowl for the first time this season, he has been going through cancer treatment and the new therapy he started is working and he's feeling good again.
One of our other guys who averages 130's had his best night of the season with a 205 / 512 !
My bowling wasn't bad had a 202 - 204 - 184 / 590. The first game was good until the 10th left an 8 pin and then the only time of the night the spare attempt stuck on my thumb and missed it... However game 2 and 3 finished the 10th with /x and then xxx maybe I've finally gotten past the dreaded curse of the 10th. game 2 I wasn't paying attention and threw a baby split and picked it up then turned to head back and realized it was the 10th. game 3 was a bit of a struggle but finished strong.
NewToBowling
01-14-2016, 11:23 AM
Good bowling
Friday AM league, our lead-off guy failed to show up again and one of the guys on the other team was late so we got a slightly late start. I bowled OK the first 3 games and had a little split trouble the last game when the line I was using went away. 176 / 243 / 201 / 148 series 620 / 768
The 2 middle games I was right on target and won the first 3 games faltering in the last game to lose that one but had enough pins to take series also.
Wed night, we are 3 weeks into the second half of split season and we are doing well. Last 2 weeks won 4 and 5 points and are in 2nd place.
Looked like it was going to be a really good night, 223 for the first game then 178 and 152 .... 553 and 184 avg.
not too happy with that performance.
Lots of oil tonight and I failed to adjust well enough, lots of low scores on the lanes tonight. One kid on the next pair shot the same series as I did, only problem is he had a 236 average going into the night.
Another rough night, threw some good balls in warm ups, then couldn't do anything right the first game, left several splits and missed several easy spares, hit the pocket once or twice.
Was using IQ tour 30, it wasn't the ball but 7th frame got out the Diva Divine and rolled the rest of the game with it.
Realized I wasn't getting the ball out on the lane or following through...
Went back to IQ ball at the start of game 2 for the rest of the night, Game 2 was much better, game 3 was pretty good, missed a 10 pin and a 6-10 in the middle but overall a decent game
127 215 193 535
Game one, I think is low game of the year, took nearly the whole game to figure out what I was doing wrong and get it corrected. Sad
Amyers
01-28-2016, 12:20 PM
Another rough night, threw some good balls in warm ups, then couldn't do anything right the first game, left several splits and missed several easy spares, hit the pocket once or twice.
Was using IQ tour 30, it wasn't the ball but 7th frame got out the Diva Divine and rolled the rest of the game with it.
Realized I wasn't getting the ball out on the lane or following through...
Went back to IQ ball at the start of game 2 for the rest of the night, Game 2 was much better, game 3 was pretty good, missed a 10 pin and a 6-10 in the middle but overall a decent game
127 215 193 535
Game one, I think is low game of the year, took nearly the whole game to figure out what I was doing wrong and get it corrected. Sad
Sucks when you have one of those nights. I hate it when I find that I'm making a common error. The important thing is you figured it out and corrected it.
Fri am league, we were coming off a losing week to play the number one team, 2 guys with 225+ averages and the Reverend with a 200 average and God on his side.
These guys are fun to bowl and love to joke around.
Started out OK with a 204 and 223 to beat the high average guy in the league. As he was finishing his 10th he bent over to look at my ball, saying he noticed a scratch (there is one) but I immediately accused him of putting a curse on my ball, and I think maybe he did.
The last 2 games I had a 170 and 171 for a 768 and he had a 246 and 256 for a 945
His first 2 games were a 210 ish and 230 but I have 36 pins on him.
Not a great outing, again a little trouble adjusting to the changes in the lane and I was pretty solid on spares other than missing a couple of 10 pins and splits.
Scheduled it a couple of weeks ago and the timing is good, have a session with Coach Shockley, will be interesting to see how my form is holding up from the last time I saw him and I want to have him help me with adjustments, I think that I'll also ask him to look at my release.
Had a rough night wed and left some big splits, had another almost all spare game\178, 176, and 179.
Fri was much better, just made a nice relaxed swing and was bowling against a guy that always takes advantage of any
error to pull away from me.
started with a 225 , 192, 225 , 222 / 864 216 avg (642 3 game series)
I'll take that any day !
Wed was a new experience in diversity of lanes, the left lane was pretty decent and similar to the normal lane condition.
The right lane was a bear and was the most different from the left of any pair I ever bowled on in my life. Changing constantly , every frame and with very little miss room.
It was like the machine malfunctioned or applied a sport pattern of some type.
Shot 169 179 202
Fri was also a little different, more oil than usual.
Started off with a ball I rarely use, DV8 Diva divine and was good the first few frames but I stuck with it the whole game finishing with a 165.
Switched to the ball I usually start with IQ tour 30 and was getting the ball off my hand better, used that ball the rest of the day, shot 225, 220, 222 and won all of my games.
I have tried for the last month to adapt my timing back to the standard timing they teach rather than the slightly late timing I learned years ago.
I switched back to my normal / late timing after game one, I guess I have been using it for so long that it just results in a much smoother and more natural feeling release for me. we will see in coming weeks if I continue to shoot in the 200's ...
Have had some decent games along the line but haven't gotten around to posting much, had a good Friday and beat my guy all four game, he's a guy that sub's on several teams and has subbed for us about 6 times this year , shot a 205 / 225 / 195 and 180. the last game I was behind at the end and knocked down three strikes while he left a 10 pin and missed it, giving me the win by a few pins.
I have to prebowl the last couple of weeks in that league due to carpal tunnel surgery next week, so went today and shot 156 / 215/ 225 / 229 for a decent series.
Summer league at a different center.
Had a good wed night on the lanes 276, 258, 195 / 729
Best night of the summer league, set high scratch and high handicap scores ( 804 )
Using a Hy-Road
Average after 10 of 13 weeks 201
mc_runner
07-15-2017, 11:33 PM
Nice series!
Timmyb
07-16-2017, 02:50 PM
Sheesh, looks like we were bowling next to each other!
Haven't posted any scores for a while, not that they were particularity bad or good over that time. I have been averaging in the mid 190's for the last couple of seasons
and am trying to take it to the next level and get it up over 200.
Started out the season ok with a 190 avg on Fri and much better with a 205 on Wed ,
Last wed the lanes were tough on me and I had a one point 7 in row of 9 count spares ......ended the night shooting the worst series of the year and first under 600 with a 530
Step forward to Fri started out pretty good with a 199 and then got it dialed in and shot 18 in a row for a 300 and 246 giving me a 745 series
That's a best for me for series and my first 300 game. All the games were with a Storm Marvel Pearl
In the 246 game I had the first 6 then left and missed two single pin spares in 7 / 8 and then finished it out
Florida Bowler
09-24-2018, 10:44 AM
Congrats on the 300!
Blacksox1
09-24-2018, 05:49 PM
Great game and series. I loved my marvel pearl, until it cracked. Heat was the likely culprit.
Not very good at keeping this updated
here are the last 4 weeks of results
204 266 215 150 835 / 208
221 216 221 177 835 / 208
218 199 152 208 777 / 194
201 222 189 265 877 / 219
The league is a 3 man 4 game league
Fri league 181, 276, 238, 247 695 / 942
Wed league 213 , 244, 245 702
Timmyb
11-23-2018, 09:34 AM
Fri league 181, 276, 238, 247 695 / 942
Wed league 213 , 244, 245 702
Nice nights!
On a more sobering note
Fri 198 246 194 150 788 / 197
fell apart in game four and couldn't carry anything but to make it worse missed 3 spares I usually pick up
Lucky that I was close enough to adding a pin to my average that I didn't end up dropping, but I need to pick it back up next week!
Another Fri morning league day and I was undecided on the ball to use, kept leaving 10 pins in the practice / warm up session
but decided on the Roto-Grip Hustle INK and moved a little further right and threw a slightly straighter line into the pocket
Shot 256 249 246 265 for a 751 3 game series and a 1016 4 game series.
Wed night
was concerned swelling in hand would prevent me from bowling but wasn't too bad in warm ups so gave it a run
244 , 204, 190 638
Swelling came back in game 3 and also made a couple of poor shots
vdubtx
01-02-2019, 01:24 PM
Very nice Tony. I am still waiting on my 1000 4 game set to come to me. :cool:
mc_runner
01-02-2019, 01:56 PM
Agreed - very nice set from the 22nd! INK is an awesome ball.
Wow, guess life got in the way and I totally neglected to keep up with the bowling score reporting here and even lost track of posting for a while.
I do have a couple of excuses but it is what it is.
In Feb my mother passed away, she had been ill off and on the past few years and for gosh sakes she was 90 and ready to let go.
Then in March I had a heart arrhythmia and spent a week in the hospital, still dealing with that , they are planning to do a procedure in the next few days to get it back
onto the normal cycle.
I finished the season struggling a little and ended the Fri league with few low series and a final average of 199.75, the Wed league was looking a little better
but had a dismal week the second to the last and ended with a 198.97 average for the season, to make it a little tougher I got beat out for high team average on the last week of the by my teammate. I lead the team average for 32 of 33 weeks, congrats to him for shooting a 680 series on the last night to edge me out with 199.11 average.
Ready to go for it again in a 13 week summer league at a different house, should be fun.
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