View Full Version : How to Read an Oil Pattern Sheet: Understanding Bowling Lane Oil Patterns
bowl1820
07-03-2015, 04:02 PM
Pattern Specialist/Lane Technician John Janawicz describes how to read an oil pattern sheet and how it can impact your game. Oil pattern distance and oil pattern volume are a couple of things that players should be focusing on.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ciGvYD8VZO0
ChuckR
07-03-2015, 07:04 PM
This is sort of informative. What is missing is HOW DO I GET an oil pattern sheet. As mentioned in other posts somewhere, the desk doesn't know and the person that may is working on machine maintenance. Even IF you got to talk to them it is only talk and no sheets to do the analysis mentioned in the video.
Mike White
07-03-2015, 08:51 PM
This is sort of informative. What is missing is HOW DO I GET an oil pattern sheet. As mentioned in other posts somewhere, the desk doesn't know and the person that may is working on machine maintenance. Even IF you got to talk to them it is only talk and no sheets to do the analysis mentioned in the video.
It's like getting nutrition information from someone working at McDonalds.
It's not part of their job description.
John Anderson
07-03-2015, 09:07 PM
It's like getting nutrition information from someone working at McDonalds.
It's not part of their job description.
And now the US government says that calorie counts must be publicly displayed, so let's get those data sheets. I think it comes down to how willing you are to try and make some contacts at your center. If you are friendly and patient and a regular customer, I think most centers will oblige. They certainly should give league bowlers access to the patterns they plan to bowl on. Although, I can't say I've ever asked for a pattern sheet myself so I don't have any first hand knowledge of this.
Amyers
07-04-2015, 01:52 AM
This is sort of informative. What is missing is HOW DO I GET an oil pattern sheet. As mentioned in other posts somewhere, the desk doesn't know and the person that may is working on machine maintenance. Even IF you got to talk to them it is only talk and no sheets to do the analysis mentioned in the video.
Ask them what pattern they are putting down if it's one of the common ones you can look it up online without any trouble. If your house is using some homemade thing they may treat it as proprietary and or thier may not even be a sheet or graph. It's different everywhere.
RobLV1
07-04-2015, 07:09 AM
This is sort of informative. What is missing is HOW DO I GET an oil pattern sheet. As mentioned in other posts somewhere, the desk doesn't know and the person that may is working on machine maintenance. Even IF you got to talk to them it is only talk and no sheets to do the analysis mentioned in the video.
Chuck, if you are talking about getting a pattern sheet for the centers at which you usually bowl, they don't exist. Pattern sheets are very informative for sport and challenge patterns, but they are not available nor do they do you any good for house shots. In terms of the typical house shot, employees don't know the specifics of the shot that is put down, and they wouldn't be allowed to tell you if they did know it. All you need to know is that the oil is heavier somewhere around the second arrow, and lighter outside of it. You can get a pretty good idea of where the ball is by actually looking over the foul line before you bowl and see where the boards look shinier (more oil) and where they look duller (less oil).
classygranny
07-04-2015, 08:48 AM
Well they DO EXIST. Both of the Brunswick houses I bowl in post the oil pattern sheets, at the front desk and at both ends. They also post the sheet for the sports pattern they put out on a few lanes on Sunday morning. I never think to much about the THS unless the lanes are reacting much different than normal and then we look to see if they changed length or quantity as they do when they transition from summer to fall and back to summer.
bowl1820
07-04-2015, 09:44 AM
It's not that pattern sheets for a centers typical house shot (THS) don't exist, It's just that the majority of centers don't provide them or make them publicly available.
Like Rob said most of the time rank and file employees don't know the specifics of the shot that is put down, their just button pushers. The ones that would know would be the head mechanic and management.
Management doesn't want to give out the info, because it could cause them trouble. Bowlers comparing things to other houses, complaining more than they do now about the shot, plus for the majority of bowlers, the information would be meaningless etc. etc.
Most of the time you only see them at leagues and tournaments that are using sport and challenge patterns.
Centers like classygranny's that provide the THS information are few and far between.
One thing to note too is even if you have the information, it's just a starting point and it's no guarantee of how your ball will react. The same pattern used in different houses will play differently do to many variables.
ChuckR
07-04-2015, 10:54 AM
The consensus seems to be that the video is nice, but for the vast majority of bowlers it is of little use.
bowl1820
07-04-2015, 11:35 AM
The consensus seems to be that the video is nice, but for the vast majority of bowlers it is of little use.
The vast majority of bowlers are not concerned about knowing about thing's like lane patterns, ball spec's etc, They bowl on one maybe two different patterns at most and just want a ball that hooks and a easy condition.
Bowler's have to be past a certain point in their game, before they are interested in knowing a lot of this information. Don't ask what that point is, It's just the moment the light comes on and they say "Hey I want to know more!" and that point will be different for everyone.
Most of the patterns can be found online, the only one you most likely won't find is the THS for your particular house (Unless your house just happens to provide it.)
Given if more of houses bowlers were interested in knowing this stuff, then the houses might be more forth coming.
Mike White
07-05-2015, 04:55 AM
Well they DO EXIST. Both of the Brunswick houses I bowl in post the oil pattern sheets, at the front desk and at both ends. They also post the sheet for the sports pattern they put out on a few lanes on Sunday morning. I never think to much about the THS unless the lanes are reacting much different than normal and then we look to see if they changed length or quantity as they do when they transition from summer to fall and back to summer.
As much as I hate the idea of defending Rob, this situation is slightly different.
He said "Chuck, if you are talking about getting a pattern sheet for the centers at which you usually bowl, they don't exist. "
He's not saying they don't exist anywhere.
I'm under the impression Chuck also bowls in Vegas, so Rob is being specific to those centers.
classygranny
07-05-2015, 10:48 AM
As much as I hate the idea of defending Rob, this situation is slightly different.
He said "Chuck, if you are talking about getting a pattern sheet for the centers at which you usually bowl, they don't exist. "
He's not saying they don't exist anywhere.
I'm under the impression Chuck also bowls in Vegas, so Rob is being specific to those centers.
Well, I might give him that, but it isn't really what was said. Statements need to be clear as that could be taken by another bowler to not to even try and ask about the information. You're probably right, just another example of "say what you mean, and mean what you say", which seems to be getting more difficult with our social media influx.
So glad, I could give you something to defend one of your worst enemies - LOL. Sometimes we all just need to get along with all the boys and girls on the playground.
RobLV1
07-05-2015, 05:37 PM
Well, I might give him that, but it isn't really what was said. Statements need to be clear as that could be taken by another bowler to not to even try and ask about the information. You're probably right, just another example of "say what you mean, and mean what you say", which seems to be getting more difficult with our social media influx.
So glad, I could give you something to defend one of your worst enemies - LOL. Sometimes we all just need to get along with all the boys and girls on the playground.
Okay, Granny, I'll try to be more clear and concise. Over the past 30+ years I have bowled in Leagues in Los Angeles County, CA, Ventura County, CA, Santa Barbara County, CA, Solon, OH, Streetsboro, OH, Wilson, NC, and Las Vegas, NV. In all of the centers where I have bowled leagues, and many more in which I have practiced, I can count the number of houses that post pattern sheets for their house shot on one finger: Virgin River Lanes, in Mesquite, NV. As of the last tournament I bowled there some six or seven years ago, there had never been a 300 game bowled there. I believe that trend continues as the Winner of the Southern Nevada Masters in 2013 (who defeated, Robert Smith and Mike DeVaney among others in match play), bowls league there and averages below 200. When I have asked about the specifics of the house pattern at many, many bowling centers, I am told one of the following things:
1. I don't know what the pattern is, only that it is (insert pattern length here).
2. I know what it is, but if I tell you, I'll get fired.
3. I don't what what the pattern is.
4. I know what it is, but if I tell you, I'll have to kill you.
There, is that specific enough for you, or can I just say that (based on my experience at over 100 bowling centers in various states) pattern sheets for house shots don't exist?
bowl1820
07-05-2015, 07:04 PM
1. I don't know what the pattern is, only that it is (insert pattern length here).
2. I know what it is, but if I tell you, I'll get fired.
3. I don't what what the pattern is.
4. I know what it is, but if I tell you, I'll have to kill you.
That's about all I've heard too!.
There's a number 5 also.
5. All I know is that it's program #(insert number) on the machine and they lost the manual that tells what pattern that is.
They told me here they used pattern #2 in the (Kustodian Ion) manual that they had "lost", but I downloaded it.
Pattern #2 is:
42' with a Volume of 22.65ml
Pattern #2: This is a starting point pattern for medium friction surfaces like Kegel Edge™ and AMF HPL™ 9000 and/or medium to higher lineage league play. This is located in slot #2 of the machine and is 42 feet. Modifications off of this pattern should allow for higher scores for most styles of player.
Which they modded to 41' (I walked the lane and the pattern ended right at 41'), maybe because we use Brunswick Pro Anvilanes.
Though it could really be a mod of pattern #1 which is 40' volume of 20.35ml
Pattern #1: This is a starting point pattern for low friction surfaces like Brunswick Pro Anvilane™ and/or low lineage league play. This is located in slot #1 of the machine and is 40
feet. Modifications off of this pattern should allow for higher scores for most styles of player.
Amyers
07-06-2015, 09:58 AM
Of the three houses I bowl in two of them use Kegel Challenge or Recreation patterns different ones for different leagues they will tell you if you ask and you can download the sheets on line. The other house uses option #4 they could tell you but then they would have to kill you. At the end of the day these play different from house to house though anyways because of differences in the lane surfaces from house to house.
bowl1820
07-06-2015, 10:56 PM
Okay this ends now.
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