League etiquette frame to frame?

[JasonNJ]

This happened to me on my Weds Night Mixed league. This is my first time in a league and being new they put me on a team, with 2 other women and we have a vacant. Anyway, we are in the middle of the 8th frame and one of the ladies on my team leaves the lane for a little while, most likely to go the ladies room. The other team finishes their 8th frame so the other lady on my team who is also new to league bowling see its her turn and bowls her 9th frame on the other lane. She of course gets a strike and a guy from the other teams starts yelling that she bowled on the wrong lane and wants to remove the strike. I informed him that she bowled the correct lane and frame it is just they are a frame behind because we are waiting for my other team mate to get back.

The A-hole starts cursing up a storm and saying things like why are we f-ing a frame behind and just being a total dick. So I of course throw a bad frame because I'm rushing to let their team catch up to us and I'm also annoyed as hell with the dude, So lessoned learned on my part to ignore a-holes and just bowl my game.

Which leads me to my original question, is there an etiquette that we should have waited for my team mate to come back so we could finish the 8th frame before my other team mate started her 9th frame?

[Jessiewoodard57]

Wow this fool should take into account that your team is new to league play and be patient his type runs off too many league bowlers. hope you reported him to the league

[HowDoIHookAgain]

Normally, it would be ideal if everyone waited for both teams to be finished with the frame. After that, then you should go on to the next frame. Most of this, in my opinion, is so that the game doesn't get what I like to call "back-logged" (which is essentially one team being a frame ahead of the other team, causing some confusion).

Since you're new to the league, the guy should have just calmly questioned the move, and explained everything, instead of throwing a temper tantrum like a 5 year old.

[bowl1820]

Which leads me to my original question, is there an etiquette that we should have waited for my team mate to come back so we could finish the 8th frame before my other team mate started her 9th frame?

The old rule was that you couldn't start the next frame until your teams last bowler threw the first ball of their current frame.

But that rule was changed to help speed up the game, the current rule is:

Rule 106 – League Game/Series
106b. Order of Bowling
2. When a team bowls against another team or alone, the next frame may be started prior to
completion of the previous frame, unless the league rules state otherwise.

So unless there was a league rule against it, as soon as the lane was available your bowler was allowed to start their 9th frame you didn't have to wait.

[JasonNJ]

Ok thanks for the clarification. I went though the league rules and there is no rule on it.


The old rule was that you couldn't start the next frame until your teams last bowler threw the first ball of their current frame.

But that rule was changed to help speed up the game, the current rule is:

Rule 106 – League Game/Series
106b. Order of Bowling
2. When a team bowls against another team or alone, the next frame may be started prior to
completion of the previous frame, unless the league rules state otherwise.

So unless there was a league rule against it, as soon as the lane was available your bowler was allowed to start their 9th frame you didn't have to wait.

[Amyers]

This guy was just being a jerk. Who cares as long as your on the correct lane. Ignore idiots and move on don't let them interrupt your groove.

[Blomer]

Yup this guy was a jerk! I've seen thing get messed up a lot when you go ahead of a bowler in your team who hasn't finished.

[fokai73]

1. That dude that yelled is a female dog with a *****.

2. I dislike bowlers like him and those who think they own the alley. I'd pull out my wallet and ask for some side action after leagues if it was me wearing your shoes.

3. It's a fun family league I assume, so he should be nice especially to the ladies.

4. It's speeding up play.

5. It's not the 1900's where you had to wait for both teams to finish. I bowl with some seniors who still follow this rule and take 25 minutes to bowl. I sit and wait and pay no mind. If I do, then it affects my game. Thankfully I have "words with friends" on my iphone.

[larry mc]

the guy is a jerk ,, where do u bowl in nj im in hudson county and i am a usbc officer and cant stand guys like hi chasing new bowlers away

[JasonNJ]

the guy is a jerk ,, where do u bowl in nj im in hudson county and i am a usbc officer and cant stand guys like hi chasing new bowlers away

I'm in Monmouth County and the guy is a jerk. Everyone who in the league tells me that he's always been like that and to just ignore him. WhenI was young and single and living in NYC, we used to go to Hudson Lanes all the time, much cheaper to cross the tunnel and bowl than bowl in the city.

[billf]

During leagues it doesn't really matter. Be aware for the future though that some tournaments do require an entire team to finish a frame before beginning the next frame.

[Tony]

I have been bowling lead-off on my Wed night team. The last few weeks we have been bowling against some higher average teams where many frames are all strikes, this causes them to finish many frames first. What I typically find myself doing is when they finish I find I am heading down to the lane with my 3rd man finishing up or my anchor bowler. If it's my third guy finishing up I'll sometimes go ahead and throw a ball so we keep up, if my anchor is heading down with me I'll let him shoot first. I try to make sure we stay on the same frame. I find it knocks our game tempo off a little if we get ahead or behind and end up bowling back to back on both lanes so I control the game and keep things even.
I've never had anyone question me or have a tantrum but if they do too bad for them, whatever I did to cause it ,I might do again someday to them .....

[Lefty651]

There's always a chance to be paired up with terrible people. A couple weeks ago in my Wednesday league my teammate was bowling the game of her life. I think she bowled a 132 and her average is 77. We use a handicap scoring system so we ended up beating the other team that game pretty easily. There was a lady on the other team who instead of congratulating my friend on bowling the best game of her life, proceeded to loudly complain that it wasn't fair and they could never win when my "terrible team gets lucky as **** and randomly bowls well". Terrible human beings are everywhere and karma will eventually catch up to them I hope.

[fordman1]

Lefty you must remember some people are entitled other are just lucky.:cool:

[NewToBowling]

There's always a chance to be paired up with terrible people. A couple weeks ago in my Wednesday league my teammate was bowling the game of her life. I think she bowled a 132 and her average is 77. We use a handicap scoring system so we ended up beating the other team that game pretty easily. There was a lady on the other team who instead of congratulating my friend on bowling the best game of her life, proceeded to loudly complain that it wasn't fair and they could never win when my "terrible team gets lucky as **** and randomly bowls well". Terrible human beings are everywhere and karma will eventually catch up to them I hope.

I would proceed to tell her to go find and bowl a scratch league, otherwise SHUT UP

[Jessiewoodard57]

I have been on the receiving end of that paring. Last Tuesday we bowled a team that were normally sub 100s bowlers. It's a 3 person team and we were down my son due to recovering from being in the hospital last week. I looked at the averages and figured even with my son's blind score we should do well. Boy was I wrong they cleaned our clocks. This "low scoring team" started doubling up on strikes and pulled out 40 to 50 pins over average each! We lost all 3 games but that did not stop us from congratulating the ladies when they rolled strikes. One of the ladies was having an issue with her ball crossing over the head pin leaving bad spare shots. I helped her out by having her keep her target but move 3 boards left and brought her back to the pocket. She did thank me. It's a game folks if we win or get thoroughly stomped the object is have fun. BTW the other two ladies were straight bowlers and I must say I never seen so many high headpin hits resulting in strikes in my life.