Bowl1820 2016-2017 Scores

[bowl1820]

Organizational meeting

Well we had our organizational meeting tonight, so the season begins!

Looks to be a full house again and I have my whole team back.

We started with the local Assoc. telling us the card fee was still $18 this year, but it will go up next year to $21.

The house made their usually announcements about the services and rewards they provide. Like the Playpass which for $21.95 gives you unlimited open bowling.

The meeting went well only a couple of nitpicky items had to be discussed, Like entering averages for new bowlers and pre-bowling.

League fees stayed the same, handicap is still 90% of 230 for individual and 90% of team difference for teams and use the 7 point scoring system.

My team is looking forward to starting and giving it a strong go this year.

Well bowling begins next week, we just got to keep focused and score well.

[bowl1820]

A lackluster start 182-152-156 for a 490. But I was using 2 new balls with a new grip and was trying out a new wrist brace..

The new grip felt pretty good, except the grips in my spare ball were tight. I believe that's because they got in a bind when put in, I have to pull them and reinsert them see if that fixes it.

The Paranoia I think needs a little surface, the OOB is a bit too shiny.

We also had a few technical glitches, it was storming and we lost power several times. Then in the middle of the third game our lanes broke down for 20 minutes.

Plus my 4th bowler wasn't there, he had work done on his foot and is going to be out for a few weeks.


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[Amyers]

A lackluster start 182-152-156 for a 490. But I was using 2 new balls with a new grip and was trying out a new wrist brace..

The new grip felt pretty good, except the grips in my spare ball were tight. I believe that's because they got in a bind when put in, I have to pull them and reinsert them see if that fixes it.

The Paranoia I think needs a little surface, the OOB is a bit too shiny.

We also had a few technical glitches, it was storming and we lost power several times. Then in the middle of the third game our lanes broke down for 20 minutes.

Plus my 4th bowler wasn't there, he had work done on his foot and is going to be out for a few weeks.


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Oh well you'll start with a good handicap at least. I hate it when I have one of those nights where I can't strike and I'm missing spares. I can put up ok numbers as long as I can do one or the other but if both are out it's going to be a stinker

[bowl1820]

Very disappointing night, is it my fault? Sure probably. I only brought 2 balls my Paranoia and the White Dot.

There was basically no head oil tonight, the only oil coming back on the ball was a few spots on the last few flare rings which would be oil from the end of the pattern.

I was standing 35 and playing 3rd to 4th arrow and I couldn't hardly keep it right. Well next week I'll bring the urethane.

Of course the guys with speed and revs did okay. I couldn't generate enough speed to help, I changed tilt but the ball was way too early still.

My thoughts are they cut back on the headoil and maybe bumped up the oil on the end of the pattern. In a attempt to make the pattern hold up longer (which some house have tried), but that doesn't work.

That or the machine needs maintenance, which has happened before when they wore out the buffer brush and didn't replace it until the Assoc. got on them cause the shot got so bad. Since I've got a low average now, some figure that means I don't know what I'm talking about.

Oh well next week here's hoping.

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[Amyers]

Very disappointing night, is it my fault? Sure probably. I only brought 2 balls my Paranoia and the White Dot.

There was basically no head oil tonight, the only oil coming back on the ball was a few spots on the last few flare rings which would be oil from the end of the pattern.

I was standing 35 and playing 3rd to 4th arrow and I couldn't hardly keep it right. Well next week I'll bring the urethane.

Of course the guys with speed and revs did okay. I couldn't generate enough speed to help, I changed tilt but the ball was way too early still.

My thoughts are they cut back on the headoil and maybe bumped up the oil on the end of the pattern. In a attempt to make the pattern hold up longer (which some house have tried), but that doesn't work.

That or the machine needs maintenance, which has happened before when they wore out the buffer brush and didn't replace it until the Assoc. got on them cause the shot got so bad. Since I've got a low average now, some figure that means I don't know what I'm talking about.

Oh well next week here's hoping.

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I'm pretty sure those of us that have been here for a while will still believe that you know what you're talking about. If they are going to be oiling like that your going to have to pick up a different ball. That paranoia is long and super hard back to the pocket anyway if it's hooking early your just done.

[bowl1820]

I'm pretty sure those of us that have been here for a while will still believe that you know what you're talking about. If they are going to be oiling like that your going to have to pick up a different ball. That paranoia is long and super hard back to the pocket anyway if it's hooking early your just done.


After a few more comments on the league facebook page, I posted the below rant.

Yes, I need to really work on some changes. The conditions here have really got to where you need speed and revs. Considering how many seniors there are on this league, you wouldn't think it would be that way.

The bowlers here break down into a about 3 groups the high ave. speed&rev bowlers, the real low ave bowlers and the mid-level bowlers.

The conditions are good for the rev guys and they don't really affect the lower averages. The mid level (stroker type bowlers) like myself at the ones that seem to being struggling a lot. Especially if the lanes are dry or break down real fast (which I've heard many others say and complain about so I know I'm not the only one).

We can't over come the lanes with just speed and revs and we have more ball than the lower averages so the condition changes affect us more IMO.

I know I usually bowl better on the oily conditions or at least my average doesn't plunge like it does on dryer ones. The fun thing then is watching the speed&rev guys struggling until they can break down the shot on the oil.

Maybe that's the problem I complained about not enough oil and somebody was worried they might actually up it. (Not that that's is going to happen)

I guess I just got to work on it harder.


Facebook RANT:
"Of course complaining on social media, wouldn't change anything. I never for one minute thought it would. But it is a forum for expressing opinions (good or bad) which I did.

Yes, I have a entering ave. of 177 this season, after 2 weeks of bowling it's now down to 156. (But I have in th past finished seasons with over a 200 ave. though)

Yes, things like a different ball, hand positions, speed, are good adjustments that can be made and that I know about.

You can also make adjustments to lane play. For example I moved my feet 10-12 boards left and moved inside playing just past 3rd arrow. Which would be fine towards the end of the series, But on a fresh THS you shouldn't have to be starting the night that deep (unless that is what your style requires).

There's also surface changes, which is a under utilized adjustment by many in bowling today. There are too many bowlers today that think the O.O.B. (Out of Box) surface is the only one you should use.

And more practice is good regardless of what average a bowler has.

Yes some of my problems are of my own making. Like I started this season with a newly updated grip, which had a major change in span do to some flexibility changes in my hand.

Also I limited myself to only 2 balls a new Motiv Paranoia and a spare ball. Because I wanted to see just how the Paranoia (Being a medium oil pearl) reacted throughout the night.

Considering how the ball reacted, (it wasn't getting enough push past the end on the pattern). Checking the ball the first few flare rings were not showing any oil (Regardless of how much of sponge a ball is you should still be able to see some oil when it first comes back.).

The only place there was even a little oil showing on the ball was on the last couple of oil flare rings (which would be from the end of the pattern oil) before the dry flare rings.

That usually indicates the head oil has been depleted or there is very little to begin with. Thus my observation.

What caused this condition I can't say, if the other lanes were different. That might indicate something with the machine (which has happened before like when they didn't replace the wore out buffer brush or when it over oiled one end of the house and everyone on those lanes went nuts and they had to reoil them.)

Yes I have a low average, but I'm still entitled to a opinion. You can agree with it or not.

But just because a bowlers average is considered low doesn't mean they can't have a valid view point or don't have the right to a opinion on conditions at least on the lanes they are bowling on, (just because someone has a good/bad shot on their lanes doesn't mean all the lanes are exactly the same).

Just as having a 200+ ave. doesn't mean a bowler is highly skilled and the only ones that can comment on said conditions."

[bowl1820]

Well a somewhat better night.

I started out feeling better about my last week assessment of the conditions, another bowler stopped to tell me he read & agreed with what I said. (he has a 200+ ave and has bowled PBA so I figure he's qualified to give a opinion) He said he's told them (Owner/Manager) the same thing before, their not really putting out enough headoil. That not everyone can throw speed and revs to overcome it.

Tonight wasn't much different as far as the conditions were concerned, but I was better prepared. I had adjusted the surface on the Paranoia, with a wore 2000 pad and then polished it. Also I brought my other equipment (Dude and my old Pyro) but I got to get the grips changed though, it would have been difficult to use effectively with the old grip. The Paranoia held up through the night though and I stuck with it.

I started out standing farther left than I would normally start, targeted down lane at the breakpoint and made sure to release toward the pins with a bit of loft. The Paranoia is surprising strong, But I also think with the new grip how can I put this - My release works more effectively, maybe it has to do with the PAP change too (I don't think I phrased that right but I'll go with it.).

The thing to see is how it goes next week, I'll have a butt load of handicap!. If I bowl good maybe I can change from a low average bowler to dirty sandbagger.;)



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[Amyers]

Nice set especially after struggling Bowl

[bowl1820]

Nice set especially after struggling Bowl

Thanks, the worst part was the end of that 2nd game. It didn't feel right coming off my hand, that and I hit my leg on that gutter ball. I figured out from the spare on that, that I had turned my hand some and wasn't bringing my hand through the ball right.

The last three frames of each game, I think I started trying too hard.

[bowl1820]

Well two more weeks of garbage, Still trying to figure the problem out. Yes they could have some more head oil, But I think the fact that I got a new grip, is letting me put more on the ball with the same release I was using than I had been getting and it's throwing me off. Plus I haven't been able to get my other balls grips updated yet to have something to switch off too. The old grip feels so big now it's hard to hold.

week 04

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week 05

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[bowl1820]

Week 6 still on the slide, a bit more head oil. My ball speed increased some and was getting down the lane more with the Paranoia, but the ball is a bit jumpy still.

I switched to my Bad A$$ toward the end of the 2nd game, the fit feels really weird now that I've got more use to the new fit. But I had more control and a little less off the ball so got the score up some on the last game.

I have my DV8 Dude in the shop right now getting the grip updated, so I should have it to switch too till I get the Paranoia figured out.

The interesting thing is my teammate has a Paranoia and seeing just how much stronger mine reacts compared to his. They are layed out almost identical, but I believe I have more rotation and I'm not sure about the tilt I never thought to notice just how they compared in that aspect. I'm more long and strong than he is I think.

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[manke]

Maybe you should have a teamate video you so see if there is anything you are doing wrong.

[bowl1820]

Well the ball I dropped off to have the thumb moved wasn't ready. He had got it plugged, but when he went to drill it the bit slipped or something which threw off the span some. So he had to replug it.

165-268-163-596

Well one good game for the night and only 4 opens. Plus we took all 7 points and I got all my bracket money back except for a $1 and I set high handicap game with a 328. A slow start on the first game, but I can't complain.


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[bowl1820]

Well week 8 nothing special, I got my Dude back and the shorter span felt a lot better. I used it for the first 2 games and half the 3rd.

I figured considering how the Paranoia rolled and how I knew the Dude rolled before. I should be able to start with the Dude and then switch to the Paranoia later when I had to move left.

The first half of the 1st game had to get use to the Dude with the adjusted grip. While even though I wasn't hitting good, I feel it was the right choice though.

My teammate was rolling his Paranoia and it was too jumpy coming out off the fresh oil and he was struggling with it. But as the night rolled on it started to even out and his scores went up.

Got the feel of the Dude again the other half of the 1st game and started striking. Third game I waited too long to make the change to Paranoia, But it looked okay when I did. so I think I had the right idea.

We'll see next week.


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[bowl1820]

Well get caught up here.

First game wasn't nothing, the second game the past couple of weeks have been better.
Last game fell all apart.

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[bowl1820]

Okay, tonight was interesting.

We had lost our 4th bowler, actually he hasn't been here from the start . He had his foot worked on and the Dr. kept telling him to wait week after week and then he told him not to bowl. but we got a new bowler tonight he's just coming back after 20yrs so had to establish average.

(Which seems to be a trend lately, most of the new users on the forum say the same thing I'm back after 20yrs.)

The real interesting thing is the oil machine broke down, it did the first 6 or 8 lanes and something happened (I didn't hear what) and they couldn't oil the rest of the lanes. So we had to bowl on whatever was out there.

With the machine breaking down, That makes me think even more I was right that something has been off with how they have been oiling.

Surprisingly our lanes were fairly consistent at least for me. I used the Dude all night and it was pretty predictable, I wasn't striking a lot but I keep it clean (got knocked out of the brackets by 1 pin).

My teammate that has the Paranoia too,was really struggling with it. He needed to switch balls, but he didn't. He usually does switch, but for some reason he just stuck with it.

Watching the guys beside us, the high rollers would only shoot one high game and the rest would drop off. Like the 221 ave. he shoots 244 game one, 3rd game he's down to 168. Most of the other 200+aves. had only one 200+ game with the rest in the 160s 170s.


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[bowl1820]

Well the slump continues.

We were on the end pair this time and the thing to see this time was all the greek churches (the 4-6-7-9-10) that got left.

We figured it up, between the two teams we left 15 greek churches, four of them mine. There was also some 4-6-7-9's where the 10 pin just fall off. The lanes beside us had a few also I noticed, But I don't know how many.

My teammate was the only one that shot good (673) and even he left the G.C. and the 4-6-7-9. He was striking a lot, but the sparing splits wasn't happening.

It's seems like we're in tweener hell at the moment, those of us with similar styles are struggling. The speed and rev guys are doing okay though.

It's about time for them to change the shot like they usually do around thanksgiving. So maybe that will get something going.

We never heard what happened to the lane machine, other than they scrambled around to get a part to get it going the next day. I still think something isn't right with it.

You can roll a ball down the lane and it only comes back with a few little strips of oil here and there on it. Like the oils patchy on the lane.

But whatever the team has surprisingly started winning more, we got a new guy and the other teams have just happened to be struggling worse than us for a change.



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[bowl1820]

Week 12
get caught up here.

Another cringe worthy week but at least the first game started off better this time.


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[bowl1820]

Week 13

Well a slightly better night, finally hit 600 this season.



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[Amyers]

Week 13

Well a slightly better night, finally hit 600 this season.



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Congrats Bowl hopefully this is a breakthrough for you.

[bowl1820]

Congrats Bowl hopefully this is a breakthrough for you.

Well here's hoping.

I tried to just get back to the basics this time, Since I tend to pull the ball a lot I just concentrated on projecting the ball out better. (Plus keeping my speed up).

I worked on keeping my balance arm out in front more, this helped me keep my shoulders open and I was feeding the ball out better.

We'll see next week.

[bowl1820]

Well get caught up here.

Week 14

Well this was a real C***fest.

We were on lanes 1&2 and this is where they started oiling and I didn't see him burn them first.

Nothing really got going for me, The main problem I saw was I had trouble holding the ball. My thumb hole felt as big as a shot glass, even with tape in it.

I'm going to see about going to a smaller thumb insert and see if that helps.

The keeping my balance arm in front more helped with keeping my shoulders open, so I was projecting the ball out better at least.

https://s5.postimg.org/wdzerx0jr/week_14.jpg

[bowl1820]

Week 15

Well a better night!

I went in and got my thumb insert changed in the Paranoia to a smaller size insert. First thing we found the one already in was the wrong size (he had grabbed the wrong one a 63/64th instead of a 31/32nd) the 31/32nd was still too big.

He also said that was a contour insert and he said there was something funny about them. (He uses them too) So he changed brands, I don't remember if he said he changed to Vise or Turbo ones.

The one he put in was a 29/32 (I checked it with my calipers to make sure.) It felt way snugger, but I could still slip one piece of tape in so I could feel some texture.

Started off by leaving the 4-10 split, I moved left went straight down the left side and picked it right up.

The ball felt way better. I wasn't dropping it early and I was projecting it out better.

We had a little bit more head oil tonight IMO, I actually saw a few wet oil lines on my ball for a change.

The one open in the 2nd game was because I forgot to change to my spare ball.

Won in the brackets and the team took all 7 points.

Nothing to complain about really, Using the balance arm better has helped and tighter thumbhole seems to have helped also.

See how it goes next week, plus got a tournament this Sunday.

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[bowl1820]

Well nothing spectacular, but I don't feel bad about the night.
215-167-183= 565

Was rolling a better ball, maybe not striking a lot but was sparing good only had five opens.

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[bowl1820]

Nothing much this week, but I did win some brackets with this garbage so can't complain.

Next week is position round for the end of the half, if we're lucky and the points go all the right way. We could just make it into the top half.

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[bowl1820]

End of the first half: Position Round: Week 18

190-177-235 for a 602 series.

Well not a bad night which was good since it was position round, We were down one player because of the holiday season. But the three of us bowled over average and we took all three games, Which should put us in 16th place. So we at least made it into the top half for the end of the half.

Won a bracket so was ahead $$ for the night (Had to beat my teammate who shot 670 for it though).

Interesting thing is the team we bowled tonight, we have to bowl again next week! For the start of the second half and we might be down one player again next week also!


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[bowl1820]

End of the half overall stat's

Strikes 33.7% (197/584)
Spares is 41.1% (222/540)
Opens is 25.0% (135/540)
Splits is 8.1% (44/540)
Split convert 13.6 (6/44)

The Incidence rate of 10 pin leaves was 48.6%, with the cover rate being 70.1%

Which I believe is a improvement over last season.(No records kept for previous season) The cover rate for the other back row pins (7-8-9) is 100%

This IMO is do to the updating of my grip and replacing my spare ball with a new 1pd lighter one.

My Entering average for the league was my last season ending average of 177, Actual first night starting average was 163.

My progress was slow (This is in part do to changes in my grip and release) , but at the end of the half, I've raised my average up by 11 pins to a 174 at this point.

My end of season goal is a 185 average which would get me just above my 2014-15 season ending average. To meet this goal will require averaging 195 (10556 total pins) for the 2nd half.

While it maybe ambitious, it is possible. I've been averaging about 194 for the past several weeks, So I just have to maintain that pace.

It's a long haul to get my average back up to the 190's where it was just a few seasons ago.

Stat's gathered using the IOS App "Best Bowling Free"

[NewToBowling]

I have a feeling you can meet your 185 cumulative avg goal. Great finish.

[bowl1820]

Well nothing great, but over average and I got some bracket money.

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[bowl1820]

Well not great, but not bad. We won all the points, I Broke even in the brackets.

We were on lanes 1-2 so it was going to be a coin toss on how they'd be, but they were not bad. As a team we bowled over average.


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[bowl1820]

get caught up here.

Bad night again, according to the lane stats this end of the house is where my lower scores are. They have a lot of open bowling and parties at this end of the house.

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[bowl1820]

Not much better still at the low end of the house, Lane stats show I score better toward the middle of the house.

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[bowl1820]

get caught up here

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[bowl1820]

Get caught up again

Welcome to station 484 K-RAP
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[bowl1820]

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[bowl1820]

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[bowl1820]

Well I don't feel too bad about tonight. It was position round and we took all the points.

Been working on a few things, like getting my hand in a better position to stay behind the ball better (Norm Duke video the "peace sign").

Plus I modded my pushoff shoe, adding a brown leather tip.
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Game1 I used the Paranoia (I need to replace the thumb insert with a smaller size like in the Pyramid.) It needed a little more surface.

Game 2-3 I switched to the Curse.

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[JasonNJ]

Looks like the Curse is working good for you.

[bowl1820]

Looks like the Curse is working good for you.

Yeah as long I roll it right!! Previous weeks low score were not the balls fault, just operator error.

The Curse is a good ball. It's pretty consistent, nice strong roll.

The money shot here with it is between 2nd & 3rd just like where Curlie is rolling in the BB.com video of the ball.

I got a lot room to the outside with it too, tugging it though you might just take out the left corner depending on the backends.

[bowl1820]

Well this wasn't much, but I wasn't the only one. Everyone on this pair was struggling, the lanes was way dry.

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[bowl1820]

Well it was a bit better tonight, the lanes was kind of dry. But I had polished my Curse a bit more, plus I stopped wearing my adjustable brace and tried keeping my form a little better.

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[bubba809]

Good bowling Bowl1820!!

Good to hear the polish helped hold the line.

Have you tried any surface adjustments on the Curse?

[bowl1820]

Good bowling Bowl1820!!

Good to hear the polish helped hold the line.

Have you tried any surface adjustments on the Curse?

Yes, I've tried a few a little duller no polish and with a bit more polish.

The O.O.B. is 2000 Grit Abralon with Factory Finish Polish.

I've tried surfaces (Using Abralon, Paper and gray scotchbrite) like P800/1500, P800/1500/Royal shine, P2000/4000 etc.

Last night I used 1000 US grit wet/dry Paper (which is close to 2000 Abralon) with Brunswick Royal compound, You could see a bit more texture than the OOB. But the B.R.C. polish gave it better length than the OOB and maybe a little more even reaction.

Even though I've been rolling bad, the Curse is real consistent. The ball motion is nice and was the same really no matter what surface was used.

If you throw it outside it's coming back, Tugging it is a little twitchy. If there's oil in the middle it will hold, but if it hits some dry it's going for the 7 though polishing it helped.

[bowl1820]

well slid back again

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[bowl1820]

well nothing great again. though pulled that last game up, switched to the paranoia, moved left and played inside.

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[bowl1820]

Well slightly better tonight, we had just bit more oil or at least the lanes seemed a bit slicker.

I got some advice tonight about half way through the first game from one of the few people I'd take advice from. He had been watching me and knew I'd been struggling, he said my swing was basically okay but timing was way off and I needed to get the ball started earlier and get my speed up.

So I started trying to get the ball in motion quicker, plus I sped up my feet (Tried to get the feeling of running to the line). It was helping my speed went up about 2 mph!

I should have switched balls the last game I believe, But I was concentrating getting the ball started and speed and was staying pretty consistent with it. But I didn't want to upset the apple cart, so just stayed with it.

It worked out okay though, I had got in 3 brackets tonight for the first time in awhile and came in first in one bracket and 2nd in two others.

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week 33
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week 34
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week 35
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week 36
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