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TonyInPortland
09-13-2016, 01:01 AM
A couple years ago I purchased a Nuball, which is "a bowling ball rejuvenator for end users in a home environment. " I was mentioning to my pro that since I got the Nuball, I probably didn't need to clean my ball directly after bowling anymore, as he had recommended, also selling me a product to do so. Obviously he has a stake in that, since he sold it to me, although I have since bought the cleaner online, where I could get it cheaper.

But when I do use the Nuball to de-oil my bowling balls, very little oil comes out. It seems like, for my nearly $200.00 investment, it should remove more oil than it does. Should I forego cleaning the ball right after bowling, to see if more oil comes out upon baking it? The pro implied I should not do this, but, like I said, it benefits him if I buy more cleaner.

If I wait, and only use the Nuball every few weeks, would this cause a problem with the ball, as far as losing the hook?

I rarely see any other bowlers cleaning their ball after bowling.

1VegasBowler
09-13-2016, 02:05 AM
The plastic balls, pearls & urethane balls do not absorb oil like the reactive resins do. Wiping your ball should be more than sufficient for quite a while, unless you bowl 4-5 times/week.

Personally, I wipe them down after each frame with a leather shammy, and every 2-3 weeks I'll use That Purple Stuff to give them a good cleaning.

The Fanatic BTU and resin balls soak up oil like a sponge, and if cleaned by hand properly they don't need to be machine cleaned all of the time. Maybe every 3-4 months and that might be too often, depending on how much you bowl,

RobLV1
09-13-2016, 06:15 AM
Cleaning the ball after each outing is definitely in your best interest. The fact that when you do this very little oil comes out after baking it proves that it is working. Rather than questioning your PSO's motives for telling you how to take care of your equipment, perhaps you should be questioning your own $200 "investment."

Tony
09-13-2016, 08:14 AM
I rarely see any other bowlers cleaning their ball after bowling.

I suppose it depends on who you bowl with, I see quite a few guys who wipe the ball off, use a pad or use a paper towel every time they pick up the ball. I've also noticed they tend to be higher average experienced bowlers, coincidence ?
I also see quite a number of guys cleaning their bowling ball after they are done bowling, and there are more that do the cleaning at home.
Make a point of hanging around and observing after your next couple of league nights, you might see more bowlers cleaning their ball that you had remembered, but even it you don't doesn't mean you should stop, seems like what you've been doing has been preserving your equipment, so why stop. If you want to cut the cleaner expense I think there are a lot of bowlers that use a mixture of simple green and alcohol to make an effective low cost cleaner.

Amyers
09-13-2016, 09:41 AM
Different balls absorb more oil than others. I do clean my equipment after every outing, resurface by hand my lower grit equipment (3000 or below) after every ten games, and resurface everything after about 50 or so. I don't own one of the deoiling machines but I'm not sure how effective they are, Some people rave about them some not so much I really don't think about needing one until I get about 200 games or so on a ball and usually the ones that have lost that much performance I'm considering replacing anyway. I'm not a guy who tends to hold on to balls for multiple years anyway.

bowl1820
09-13-2016, 09:49 AM
I rarely see any other bowlers cleaning their ball after bowling.

and that is why so many bowlers complain about loss of reaction.

If you have good cleaning regimen, you can greatly extend the life of your ball and go a long time between de-oilings. It helps you maintain optimum performance all the time, rather than have the reaction tapering off until you de-oil it.


and yes the PSO is right, Not cleaning your ball just so it soaks up some oil so you can bake it out later is a bad idea.

djp1080
09-13-2016, 01:01 PM
I use a converted food dehydrator as a ball rejuvenator and it works quite well. Most of my balls were made by Storm. Originally used the bucket of hot water treatment and it worked, but didn't like the idea of water getting into the holes.
Noticed that lane conditioner didn't come out of each and every ball. The Hy-Road, Optimus and Vivid soaked up lane conditioner more than others. My old Track 300T was a sponge, too.
I've followed a regimen for keeping my gear clean after each session and this has reduced the necessity of using the rejuvenator to nearly zero. I pay closer attention to the balls that showed more tendency for soaking up lane conditioner though. The Hy-Road has bled conditioner for over an hour in the rejuvenator once or twice and this ball still seems to work well even with lots of oil in its cover. Maybe that's why I like this ball more than most of the others. Great piece of equipment.
Like the others here I'd say that you should continue on cleaning your ball after each session and use either polish, compound or a sanding pad to keep that coverstock reacting like new.

billf
09-15-2016, 09:21 AM
How often are you baking them? Less than 60 games is a waste of electricity.
Definitely clean your balls every outing. Even the ball manufacturers say this and it doesn't benefit them.

*****DO NOT BAKE A MOTIV BALL***** Not sure why but all five I've baked lost a minimum of five boards of hook. They also soak up the least amount of oil of any company I've seen so far.

TonyInPortland
09-15-2016, 11:15 PM
and that is why so many bowlers complain about loss of reaction.

If you have good cleaning regimen, you can greatly extend the life of your ball and go a long time between de-oilings. It helps you maintain optimum performance all the time, rather than have the reaction tapering off until you de-oil it.


and yes the PSO is right, Not cleaning your ball just so it soaks up some oil so you can bake it out later is a bad idea.

Thanks for all the insightful replies. That basically answers my question. As far as the person who said I should make my own cleaner, I have thought of that, and I think I will do that once I run out of my current stuff.

TonyInPortland
09-15-2016, 11:17 PM
I suppose it depends on who you bowl with, I see quite a few guys who wipe the ball off, use a pad or use a paper towel every time they pick up the ball. I've also noticed they tend to be higher average experienced bowlers, coincidence ?
I also see quite a number of guys cleaning their bowling ball after they are done bowling, and there are more that do the cleaning at home.
Make a point of hanging around and observing after your next couple of league nights, you might see more bowlers cleaning their ball that you had remembered, but even it you don't doesn't mean you should stop, seems like what you've been doing has been preserving your equipment, so why stop. If you want to cut the cleaner expense I think there are a lot of bowlers that use a mixture of simple green and alcohol to make an effective low cost cleaner.

As far as cleaning at home, I was under the impression that you should do it as soon as you are finished, the implication being that, on the drive home, the oil would absorb and not be on the surface any longer?

bowl1820
09-16-2016, 12:03 AM
As far as cleaning at home, I was under the impression that you should do it as soon as you are finished, the implication being that, on the drive home, the oil would absorb and not be on the surface any longer?

Yes, Cleaning as soon as you can after bowling is best.

If you have time at the lanes, you clean there (a plus to this is it helps keep the inside of your bag clean, by preventing oil and other grime from rubbing off in your bag. Which later can attract other dirt and get back on your ball if you clean it later and then put it in your bag.)

If you can't clean at the lanes, then you clean at home.

Blacksox1
09-16-2016, 11:33 AM
How often are you baking them? Less than 60 games is a waste of electricity.
Definitely clean your balls every outing. Even the ball manufacturers say this and it doesn't benefit them.

*****DO NOT BAKE A MOTIV BALL***** Not sure why but all five I've baked lost a minimum of five boards of hook. They also soak up the least amount of oil of any company I've seen so far.


Yes, Cleaning as soon as you can after bowling is best.

If you have time at the lanes, you clean there (a plus to this is it helps keep the inside of your bag clean, by preventing oil and other grime from rubbing off in your bag. Which later can attract other dirt and get back on your ball if you clean it later and then put it in your bag.)

If you can't clean at the lanes, then you clean at home.

Two great responses for this topic, also when baking follow the guidelines for time and temperature, VERY IMPORTANT !

fokai73
09-16-2016, 12:02 PM
De-oiling possible factors: I think it these 4 or maybe 5 reasons.....

1. type of ball used - high end balls tend to be sponges.
2. environment - volume of oil and cleanliness of the whole operating system, From the foul line, to pin deck, to rack, to belt, and to the ball rack.
3. ball maintenance during play and after play.
4. Cleaners used
and/or
5. if you're left handed!!!:cool: you have more oil on your side HAHAHAHAA:D..... there's too much traffic on the right LOL

zacks
09-16-2016, 04:36 PM
Can someone tell me if it is a bad idea to put a reactive resin ball in a bucket of warm water? I've heard this is the best way to de-oil a ball and I've heard this is the worst way to de-oil a ball. I've done this before and as far as I could tell it worked. I've also heard people say that the ball can become water logged and it can take a long time for the water to fully evaporate out of the ball, which could change the characteristics of the ball or impair the balls ability to absorb oil. I'm sure I'll get differing responses, but hopefully get some helpful ideas.

bowl1820
09-16-2016, 06:00 PM
Can someone tell me if it is a bad idea to put a reactive resin ball in a bucket of warm water? I've heard this is the best way to de-oil a ball and I've heard this is the worst way to de-oil a ball. I've done this before and as far as I could tell it worked. I've also heard people say that the ball can become water logged and it can take a long time for the water to fully evaporate out of the ball, which could change the characteristics of the ball or impair the balls ability to absorb oil. I'm sure I'll get differing responses, but hopefully get some helpful ideas.


The "Hot water & Dawn" method of oil extraction has been around for years and is usually considered one of the safest (But not necessarily the most effective) ways to remove oil.

The ball core doesn't fill up with water and become water logged.

If you get water in the holes, you should let it sit and let the holes dry out though so you don't stick in the holes etc. If you leave tape in the holes and it gets wet, you need to take it out because the adhesive can get gummy and sticky in the hole and you have to clean them out.

But doing a soak is not a problem.

billf
09-16-2016, 07:26 PM
The filler material in a ball is the same as used in auto body repair. If you can get your car wet you can get your bowling ball wet. I used the hot water method for years before getting a ball oven. The oven is easier, cleaner and more consistent. Temperature control and air flow are key.

okfoz
09-23-2016, 02:56 PM
I am like a ball cleaning nazi when it comes to care of my balls. I clean them after every time I bowl, If I throw the ball for 3 frames or 10 games, I will clean it after the games. I still get a lot of oil out of my ball when I extract oil.

Admittedly, I use 6 balls in my arsenal, and only one of them actually will release any oil. My Brunswick Loaded Revolver will need a good rejuvenation about every 3-4 weeks. About 20-30 games and I notice a difference in how the ball hooks. So I spend a day with it in the box, remove, clean, and then in the box again until it stops sweating. Same thing goes for the Storm Balls I have done for my son and friends.

I will add, that one thing I notice is if I do the rejuvenation too soon, I will just get oil out of the track.

I contacted Brunswick before I started with the heater oil extraction, and they told me "Absolutely" in regards to the process. Now other manufacturers, like Hammer said NEVER! and Storm said that it would probably work but they cannot "recommend it" Rotogrip never responded. IIRC everyone when I asked what the max temperature should be they said the same thing, NEVER exceed 130°F

The funny thing about it, is I seem to bowl the best after a week or two after I do the rejuvenation, there is a sweet spot that the reaction of the ball, the lane conditions and my bowling style just match up. So I have to practice with my ball and not just let it sit in my bag till my next league.

sorry if the post is scattered, I am getting a bid delay between when I type and when the letters pop up on the screen.

John