average cost

[Hawk]

what is the average cost for fingertip drilling with a thumb slug..

[bowl1820]

what is the average cost for fingertip drilling with a thumb slug..

There are several threads that ask this.

$40-$50 is about average, depending on what part of the country your in.

[zacks]

what is the average cost for fingertip drilling with a thumb slug..

Here in the expensive Bay Area (CA) one place charges $45 and the other $60. What do other places around the country cost?

[drlawsoniii]

I wonder why it costs more for finger tip drilling than conventional drilling...it's just 3 holes drilled into the same material...is the 5 minutes of time the pso takes to measure your hand worth 15 dollars? If so i'm in the wrong business...

[1VegasBowler]

Here in Vegas it's around $60.

[bowl1820]

I wonder why it costs more for finger tip drilling than conventional drilling...it's just 3 holes drilled into the same material...is the 5 minutes of time the pso takes to measure your hand worth 15 dollars? If so i'm in the wrong business...

Mostly Because conventional drillings dont typically have finger inserts and or thumb inserts or slugs put in. Those are usually included in the price.

Plus it takes more than 5 mins to fit a ball, lay it out and drill it. At least if its being done right!

Now if you were getting a ball drilled a kmart or some such, where they just went punch, punch, punch. For convetional grip.........

[zacks]

I wonder why it costs more for finger tip drilling than conventional drilling...it's just 3 holes drilled into the same material...is the 5 minutes of time the pso takes to measure your hand worth 15 dollars? If so i'm in the wrong business...

Finger tip drilling has finger tip inserts and a thumb slug, which adds costs, as well as the layout (which I guess really only takes a couple minutes) vs. conventional which consists of 3 holes drilled in a common location (no layout assuming plastic ball). Both require the PSO to measure your hand.

[drlawsoniii]

At least in here in Ohio for a fingertip drill it does not include tip inserts...

[manke]

About 30 here!!

[zacks]

At least in here in Ohio for a fingertip drill it does not include tip inserts...

So they charge more for a finger tip drilling that doesn't include inserts and slug? If so, that's robbery.

[1VegasBowler]

Standard drillings shouldn't cost anything. But when you get a dual angle and even pitches drilled, you're gonna pay for it! lol

[NewToBowling]

$50 drilling, $10 each for finger inserts and slug so $70 total

[SAbowler]

About 60 bucks here in San Antonio for drilling, inserts and a slug.

[Amyers]

About $40 here including inserts and slugs.

[NewToBowling]

About $40 here including inserts and slugs.

That's cheap.

[fokai73]

Over here it's a bag of weed and 2 bags of chips. :D

seriously it's $25 to $50 over here. I pay $30 to $40 depending if I forget to bring my own inserts and I want to bowl off the press.

[Amyers]

That's cheap.

Yeah I'm lucky. My proshop lets me use the Haus machine and spinner for free as long as I buy my pads for free too.

[SAbowler]

Before the pro shops in my area started matching on-line pricing, drilling used to be included in the price of the ball and all you had to do was pay for inserts/slugs. It worked out to around 40-45 dollars more than you could buy just the ball for on the internet. Since they started matching what balls sell for online, the drilling has been separate and more expensive.

[ep1977]

what is the average cost for fingertip drilling with a thumb slug..

NY is expensive for everything. Drilling costs $45-60 with grips and slug coming in at $20-35

[LOUVIT]

I pay 50.00 for a drill and they ask what do you want...i use inserts on fingers and nothing in thumb..then if I need 15. for a thumb slug and 5.00 to change a finger insert

[billf]

Standard drillings shouldn't cost anything. But when you get a dual angle and even pitches drilled, you're gonna pay for it! lol

So the electricity and drill bits are free? Nevermind the person's time. How much of your job do you do for free?

[billf]

as well as the layout (which I guess really only takes a couple minutes)

Even if they don't double check, which anybody with real pride would be certain, it would take at least five minutes. But what is it worth for the knowledge to know how to not only lay the ball out but know which layout for that ball and the condition it's use is anticipated on worth?

[billf]

Send drill bit out to sharpen is $100. New drill bits of quality are almost three times that amount. A good press runs between 7k and 10k

The listed price where I go is $40 for drilling, $10 for finger inserts, $10 for Turbo interchangeable insert, $10 vinyl slug

With so many having to match online prices I wonder how they can make a living as owner. Online retailers don't even have to stock items. They ship straight from the distributor most of the time, no electricity, minor rent and website owenrship is real cheap also. Now with online matching these guys are lucky to make $15 on the ball sale. There best bet is risky but to be part of a manufacturers seed program. It's a lot of money up front but cheaper per ball if you can move the inventory fast enough before new releases come and make your inventory obsolete.

[NewToBowling]

Unless pro shops are buying in bulk I don't think they're making anything off balls. Their listed prices are the same as online. Maybe a $5-10 profit. Money comes from services like drilling, etc

[ep1977]

Unless pro shops are buying in bulk I don't think they're making anything off balls. Their listed prices are the same as online. Maybe a $5-10 profit. Money comes from services like drilling, etc

Most of the Pro Shops around here charge more to drill a ball that you don't buy from them. This is because there prices are higher than online so most customers are buying online.

[bowl1820]

Usually when you buy a ball at the ProShop, the price of the drilling is included in the ball price.

That's why the online ball prices appear cheaper most of the time, but once you factor in the cost of the drilling the prices can wind up being fairly comparable.

[stargell1]

At my center in ohio it's $30. It includes drilling, inserts, slugs plus 3 free games of bowling.

[drlawsoniii]

What town Stargell?

[NewToBowling]

Usually when you buy a ball at the ProShop, the price of the drilling is included in the ball price.

That's why the online ball prices appear cheaper most of the time, but once you factor in the cost of the drilling the prices can wind up being fairly comparable.

My PSO prices are undrilled and usually match onine prices.

[drlawsoniii]

Send drill bit out to sharpen is $100. New drill bits of quality are almost three times that amount. A good press runs between 7k and 10k

The listed price where I go is $40 for drilling, $10 for finger inserts, $10 for Turbo interchangeable insert, $10 vinyl slug

With so many having to match online prices I wonder how they can make a living as owner. Online retailers don't even have to stock items. They ship straight from the distributor most of the time, no electricity, minor rent and website owenrship is real cheap also. Now with online matching these guys are lucky to make $15 on the ball sale. There best bet is risky but to be part of a manufacturers seed program. It's a lot of money up front but cheaper per ball if you can move the inventory fast enough before new releases come and make your inventory obsolete.

I paid $50k for my education to become a bean counter, but i'm not charging people $120 an hour to do their taxes...

[Mike White]

Send drill bit out to sharpen is $100. New drill bits of quality are almost three times that amount.


Say what???

http://innovativebowling.com/Drill-Bits_c_33.html

Drill bit sharpening $7.50

http://innovativebowling.com/Individual-Drill-Bits--Standard-Tip_c_43.html

Individual drill bits... $40.00

[JaxBowlingGuy]

Cost me around $6 w/grips and slug.

Normal pricing is around 40-50 drilling and $10 for grips and $10 for slug.

[JaxBowlingGuy]

Send drill bit out to sharpen is $100. New drill bits of quality are almost three times that amount. A good press runs between 7k and 10k

The listed price where I go is $40 for drilling, $10 for finger inserts, $10 for Turbo interchangeable insert, $10 vinyl slug

With so many having to match online prices I wonder how they can make a living as owner. Online retailers don't even have to stock items. They ship straight from the distributor most of the time, no electricity, minor rent and website owenrship is real cheap also. Now with online matching these guys are lucky to make $15 on the ball sale. There best bet is risky but to be part of a manufacturers seed program. It's a lot of money up front but cheaper per ball if you can move the inventory fast enough before new releases come and make your inventory obsolete.

Even matching online prices the shops would make around $50-60 on high performance balls like the Storm premier line. MAP pricing is what helps the small local guys in that respect.

My local shop already charges the same as the online reatailers but doesn't give you a price break on drilling if you buy from them. So they lose sales for that reason because it's cheaper to order online and take there to drill. Bowling.com and bowlingball.com only take a day to arrive here anyways

[Mike White]

Even matching online prices the shops would make around $50-60 on high performance balls like the Storm premier line. MAP pricing is what helps the small local guys in that respect.

My local shop already charges the same as the online reatailers but doesn't give you a price break on drilling if you buy from them. So they lose sales for that reason because it's cheaper to order online and take there to drill. Bowling.com and bowlingball.com only take a day to arrive here anyways

I don't see where the "little guy" can make $50-$60 per ball on Storms Premier line.

Bowlingball.com is selling the Storm Alpha Crux for $169.95 without tax.

I'd have to sell it for $157.36+$12.59 tax to match online.

My distributor sells the ball wholesale for $143.10.

Looks like I'd make $14.26 on the ball, and thats only because I live close enough to the distributor that I don't need shipping.

[ep1977]

I don't see where the "little guy" can make $50-$60 per ball on Storms Premier line.

Bowlingball.com is selling the Storm Alpha Crux for $169.95 without tax.

I'd have to sell it for $157.36+$12.59 tax to match online.

My distributor sells the ball wholesale for $143.10.

Looks like I'd make $14.26 on the ball, and thats only because I live close enough to the distributor that I don't need shipping.

Your distributor gets that ball for less than $90

[Jaescrub]

I get mine done from as low as "free" and as high as about 30ish. I say free because my pro shop operator includes the price of drilling into the equipment price, but a lot of time he will get me a deal of more then 30 off, I have also ordered a lot from BB.com and so he drills Em up for around 30 to 40.

[JasonNJ]

My local shop charges me $55 for grips and drilling. I don't bother with a thumb slug. He just started matching online pricing but only if you ask. I actually have BowlingBall.com drill all my stuff. I sent them a ball, they made a thumb mold for $10 and recorded all my measurements and I buy and have them drill. I think they charge about $45 including grips and slug.

[JaxBowlingGuy]

I don't see where the "little guy" can make $50-$60 per ball on Storms Premier line.

Bowlingball.com is selling the Storm Alpha Crux for $169.95 without tax.

I'd have to sell it for $157.36+$12.59 tax to match online.

My distributor sells the ball wholesale for $143.10.

Looks like I'd make $14.26 on the ball, and thats only because I live close enough to the distributor that I don't need shipping.

First you don't include tax in the "match". Even though they pay it, you don't get it. The shop here is getting them in the 110-115 range. So matching $170 price (not tax) gives a $55-60 profit.

People here would pay tax on BB.com.

[J Anderson]

First you don't include tax in the "match". Even though they pay it, you don't get it. The shop here is getting them in the 110-115 range. So matching $170 price (not tax) gives a $55-60 profit.

People here would pay tax on BB.com.

Don't you mean should?

[Mike White]

Don't you mean should?

He means "here" (Florida) BB.Com will charge you tax because BB.Com is based in Florida.

If you're outside of Florida, BB.Com won't change tax.

Its not just Florida....

http://www.forbes.com/sites/ryanellis/2016/03/08/donald-trump-and-the-empty-jewelry-box-tax-scam/#73c85ba66aa7


The Empty Jewelry Box Scam

Back in 1986 and likely for many years before, Donald Trump colluded in tax evasion with Bulgari Jewelry Store in New York, a high-end posh location with tony clientele right out of Lifestyles of the Rich and Famous. Here’s how the scam worked:

Trump would go into the store with his wife, his girlfriend, his…whatever (to use his vernacular). He would then buy her an expensive necklace or wristwatch. Normally, such a transaction would face the New York city and state sales tax, which would be pretty high on luxury jewelry.

In an illegal attempt to evade the tax, Trump “asked” the store to instead ship the jewelry to an out of state location, where no New York sales tax could be collected. In fact, the store would merely send an empty jewelry box to the location, while Trump and his lady friends walked out the door with the jewelry that very day.

The state and city tax collectors eventually caught onto this scheme, and Trump promptly testified against his erstwhile tax evasion colluding partners at the jewelry store in order to save his own skin.

[got_a_300]

At our center the drilling price is included in the price of the ball it usually
runs somewhere around $35-45 for drilling when you take off the price of
the ball and grips.

The new owners do not want you to buy a ball online and bring it there to
have it drilled they just say no unless you want to take responsibility for
the ball if it cracks and then pay somewhere around $60+ just for the drill
no grips or extras included in that price.

[NewToBowling]

At our center the drilling price is included in the price of the ball it usually
runs somewhere around $35-45 for drilling when you take off the price of
the ball and grips.

The new owners do not want you to buy a ball online and bring it there to
have it drilled they just say no unless you want to take responsibility for
the ball if it cracks and then pay somewhere around $60+ just for the drill
no grips or extras included in that price.

Do they stick a wide selection in various weight (especially 14 and 15 lb)

[got_a_300]

Do they stick a wide selection in various weight (especially 14 and 15 lb)

They hardly stock any balls at all they have maybe 8-10 new balls at any given time
as the Pro shop isn't very big at all. I think I've seen walk in closets bigger than the
Pro shop at our center. LOL!!!!

[NewToBowling]

They hardly stock any balls at all they have maybe 8-10 new balls at any given time
as the Pro shop isn't very big at all. I think I've seen walk in closets bigger than the
Pro shop at our center. LOL!!!!

The only reason I ask is they want you to buy balls from them but sounds like they don't have much selection so more than likely they would have to order your ball. Sounds like they are leaving money on the table by not jumping at drilling balls customers bring in.

[Mike White]

They hardly stock any balls at all they have maybe 8-10 new balls at any given time
as the Pro shop isn't very big at all. I think I've seen walk in closets bigger than the
Pro shop at our center. LOL!!!!

My shop was DINKY, so there was no physical way I could have had a large amount of inventory, and even then I tried to keep it small.

There are only 3 kinds of bowling balls.

1) The kind the customer asks for.
2) The kind the customer actually needs.
3) The kind the pro shop has in stock and needs to move.

I tried to keep from having the 3rd type.

When a customer wanted a new ball, we would discuss whether to get a type 1, or type 2.
The next day before I opened, I would stop by the distributor and pick up the equipment people had requested.
Later that day I had it drilled, and by the time the customer would come back, the ball was ready to go.

Effectively "my" inventory was stored in a LARGE warehouse owned by Steve Cook.