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NewToBowling
11-23-2016, 09:47 AM
Read it on Facebook feed. Search for Sean Osbourne of Houston. Apparently he was a sub.

I don't care what anyone says, 36 straight strikes is impressive regardless of the house conditions.
JaxBowlingGuy
11-23-2016, 09:55 AM
Not to discredit his achievement but there was a lot of hold room. Regardless that many is impressive
NewToBowling
11-23-2016, 10:09 AM
I'm pretty sure most if not all 900s were shot on easy house conditions. Still an admirable feat considering only 30ish has ever been achieved considering the number of sanctioned leagues that play each and every night
fordman1
11-23-2016, 10:32 AM
Jax do you have a twin brother? There is another person who looks just like you.
fordman1
11-23-2016, 10:35 AM
Read it on Facebook feed. Search for Sean Osbourne of Houston. Apparently he was a sub.

I don't care what anyone says, 36 straight strikes is impressive regardless of the house conditions.
After looking him up he isn't in the USBC web site. Was this a certified league or what?
JaxBowlingGuy
11-23-2016, 10:42 AM
Jax do you have a twin brother? There is another person who looks just like you.

Probably is me lol.. new acct
LOUVIT
11-23-2016, 11:09 AM
Even with good/bad conditions throwing 36 in a row without a 10 pin or anything else is unreal.
NewToBowling
11-23-2016, 12:43 PM
After looking him up he isn't in the USBC web site. Was this a certified league or what?

Yes it was
fordman1
11-23-2016, 02:52 PM
Yes it was

Sean Osbourne in not in find a bowler on bowl.com
JasonNJ
11-23-2016, 03:32 PM
Sean Osbourne in not in find a bowler on bowl.com

There is no E in his last name. Sean M Osbourn. Carried a 216 composite average across 4 leagues last year.
foreverincamo
11-23-2016, 11:40 PM
Haven't heard myself if it's been certified, but it's impressive nonetheless.
fordman1
11-24-2016, 11:08 AM
There is no E in his last name. Sean M Osbourn. Carried a 216 composite average across 4 leagues last year.

Got the spelling from newtobowling I tried a few different spellings but miss dropping the E
LOUVIT
11-24-2016, 12:12 PM
The video of the last few shots is up on FB now..
Mike White
11-24-2016, 01:29 PM
Haven't heard myself if it's been certified, but it's impressive nonetheless.

I think the only thing USBC confirms is that the league is USBC certified, the bowler has paid the required dues, and the bowler hasn't been suspended for whatever reason.
ep1977
11-24-2016, 01:42 PM
I think the only thing USBC confirms is that the league is USBC certified, the bowler has paid the required dues, and the bowler hasn't been suspended for whatever reason.

Don't they confirm that the ball used was USBC approved?
Mike White
11-24-2016, 02:17 PM
Don't they confirm that the ball used was USBC approved?

They ask for the make and model of the ball on the form, but nobody confirms that what was written down is the same as what was used.
LOUVIT
11-24-2016, 06:26 PM
so are you all saying it's not approved. it said sanctioned on the video...
Mike White
11-24-2016, 06:33 PM
so are you all saying it's not approved. it said sanctioned on the video...

No, I'm saying the the approval process is so light weight that it's almost impossible for USBC to deny approval.

Because the approval process is so light weight, there are two 900 series that have been approved that USBC not only doesn't know if the equipment used was legal, USBC doesn't even know if the scores actually occurred.
fordman1
11-24-2016, 09:13 PM
Sanctioning went the way of the dodo bird. Maybe by the time bowling goes there to people will learn that.
fortheloveofbowling
11-24-2016, 10:26 PM
Sanctioning went the way of the dodo bird. Maybe by the time bowling goes there to people will learn that.

Sanctioned..... Certified...... Whatever.
foreverincamo
11-24-2016, 10:32 PM
No, I'm saying the the approval process is so light weight that it's almost impossible for USBC to deny approval.

Because the approval process is so light weight, there are two 900 series that have been approved that USBC not only doesn't know if the equipment used was legal, USBC doesn't even know if the scores actually occurred.

I remember reading about those two 900's. When Glenn Allison threw his back in the 80's with a Columbia Yellow Dot, his ball and the lanes were worked over as if it was a crime scene. It's bulls@@t that it wa ever denied. Those two 900's are way worse than what happened to Glenn though as far as the sport goes.
Mike White
11-24-2016, 11:47 PM
I remember reading about those two 900's. When Glenn Allison threw his back in the 80's with a Columbia Yellow Dot, his ball and the lanes were worked over as if it was a crime scene. It's bulls@@t that it wa ever denied. Those two 900's are way worse than what happened to Glenn though as far as the sport goes.

Having bowled the occasional tournament at La Habra 300 back in the early 80's, I can tell you the center was known as a rather high scoring house at the time.

The problem then just like now, you really don't know how much of a high score is because of the bowlers execution on that particular night, or how much was due to the help of the oil pattern.

This is why I'm an advocate of the limited distance dressing.

When you only have 24 feet of oil, you're pretty much on your own.

No help in terms of hold area guiding you to the pocket.
Krash300
11-27-2016, 10:49 AM
24' of oil. Do you have 1 rev or something? I bowl alot of sport shot tournaments and the shortest pattern ive bowled is 34' and that will make you feel like a new bowler if you cannot execute properly. Can't imagine what a 24' pattern would look like
fordman1
11-27-2016, 10:57 AM
Scores went up. It was better than a 50 ft lake in one place and no oil in another.
1VegasBowler
11-27-2016, 11:44 AM
No, I'm saying the the approval process is so light weight that it's almost impossible for USBC to deny approval.

Because the approval process is so light weight, there are two 900 series that have been approved that USBC not only doesn't know if the equipment used was legal, USBC doesn't even know if the scores actually occurred.

First and foremost, my response here is not to start any crap with anybody. I'm just looking for opinions as to how this process can be made easier to certify 300's, 900's, etc.

I won't deny the fact, that, the approval process has some flaws to it, especially where it concerns the equipment that was used. But what can be done to make sure the equipment was legal?

Are we going to have somebody from the USBC at each center to certify the equipment that every bowler is using? OR do they just certify only those who throw 300's?

We all know there is no way that you're going to get a person from the USBC to be at a center for each and every league that is being played, and there's 2 reasons for that. 1) We don't get paid for anything and 2) We also bowl. So the only way to do this is by paying people to be there.

This means somebody is going to have to ante up, and who's going to pay the fees? The bowling center? They could, but they're going to hit the leagues to cover that, and since the fees we pay are getting higher all of the time you're going to see people dropping from leagues.

As far as verifying the scores, the league secretary should have the center print the scores for that individual and attach it with the proper form(s) that are being submitted to the USBC. (Not sure if it is mandated to do so)

I don't pretend to even have a solution to this, but I would certainly listen to anything that would be reasonable and pass it on.