Sanction Fees

[drlawsoniii]

How exactly are sanction fees determined? Are they set by the USBC? If not how much is everyone's fees? I just got told at our captians meeting that our sanction fees are going from 20 to 25 this year...

[bowl1820]

From the Rule book:

Adult Standard
The maximum Standard National and State membership dues structure for adults may only be changed
by the USBC delegation. Standard local membership dues are established by the local membership at
the local annual meeting.

Standard membership dues paid annually are $13.00 National dues plus State dues up to a maximum
of $5.00 and Local dues as determined by the local membership at the local association annual
meeting


I don't know what the dues are this year here yet, Last year it was $17. So I figure it will be about $20 this year.

[got_a_300]

Yeah our fees are going up this year also not exactly
sure on how much yet.

[fordman1]

Sanction fees were set by the defunct ABC, the American Bowling Congress. The Certification fee is set by the USBC, the United States Bowling Congress.

Now this was discussed a few months ago when at the convention the National dues were raised by $3. Our local also added $2. Now our fees are $25.

Can't wait for next Fridays meeting. Which is an open meeting. All organizational meetings should be open meetings. Captain's meetings are not where rules are voted on. That is for open meetings where all bowlers can vote.

[taxexpert2]

Just checked for myself the new fees will be $24.00. Ouch. Seems like a lot.

[LyalC52]

be happy you only have to pay one local
I bowl at 3 different houses and they all fall into different locals since no one wants to play nice

[fordman1]

Curious How many centers in each assn. and how many leagues in each house.

[Amyers]

be happy you only have to pay one local
I bowl at 3 different houses and they all fall into different locals since no one wants to play nice

I pay in three different locals also.

[Amyers]

Just checked for myself the new fees will be $24.00. Ouch. Seems like a lot.

I will never really understand this feeling. Not picking on you tax just the first post I seen with this sentiment. Even if you only bowl during the fall that's usually around 36 weeks so 36 divided by $24 is 66 cents a week. If you bowl year round it's 46 cents a week. I loose more change in my sofa during the year.

[J Anderson]

I will never really understand this feeling. Not picking on you tax just the first post I seen with this sentiment. Even if you only bowl during the fall that's usually around 36 weeks so 36 divided by $24 is 66 cents a week. If you bowl year round it's 46 cents a week. I loose more change in my sofa during the year.

But your wife or your kids eventually find those nickels, dimes and quarters, so you're just redistributing the wealth in your family. Add to that the fact that even if you notice you've lost a coin the reaction is usually "oh, it's just a quarter."
When it's dues, it all gets paid at once, and most of us don't think about the fact it works out to 40 or 50 cents a week for the year.

[fordman1]

What I heard was that a bunch of chicken S*** people had little mom and pop assn.'s and he had to pay in all of them all. Not the amount so much. I don't feel that great about having to pay more when so much of the money goes to the WPBA and PBA. I understand the testing and rules but there are a lot of things I just don't agree on. Team USA is another. And if they give anything to the Olympic effort that would be another. The Bowling center assn. should cover it in my opinion.

[Mr900]

I will never really understand this feeling. Not picking on you tax just the first post I seen with this sentiment. Even if you only bowl during the fall that's usually around 36 weeks so 36 divided by $24 is 66 cents a week. If you bowl year round it's 46 cents a week. I loose more change in my sofa during the year.

Agreed. Scale back on Starbucks a few weeks and you'll be even

[taxexpert2]

Hmmm. Well, when you retire and are on a fixed income and have to make each dollar count for two you will understand - maybe. I did not begrudge the expense either when I was working but now I am not. Glad you can find the nickles and dimes in your sofa - they are not there in mine.

[Amyers]

Hmmm. Well, when you retire and are on a fixed income and have to make each dollar count for two you will understand - maybe. I did not begrudge the expense either when I was working but now I am not. Glad you can find the nickles and dimes in your sofa - they are not there in mine.

No offense was intended tax and I do realize some peoples budgets are more stretched than others.

[Amyers]

What I heard was that a bunch of chicken S*** people had little mom and pop assn.'s and he had to pay in all of them all. Not the amount so much. I don't feel that great about having to pay more when so much of the money goes to the WPBA and PBA. I understand the testing and rules but there are a lot of things I just don't agree on. Team USA is another. And if they give anything to the Olympic effort that would be another. The Bowling center assn. should cover it in my opinion.

That's true on the multiple payments as I stated I pay in 3 different associations myself I think the local dues in the other two associations are $5 and $7. I serve on my local association board and the state youth board so I see where they money locally goes and never had an issue with it.

I believe the BPAA does sponsor Team USA also and probably the PBA and WPBA too but I'm less sure about those. I would be in large favor of bowling in the Olympics myself (at least as long as we don't ruin it with a stupid scoring system). I do think the BPAA has the responsibility of some serious skin in the game with these types of events but so do the rank and file bowler. If the sport doesn't grow 10 years from now it will be gone as we know it and become a game only played in boutique bars and shopping centers. That won't benefit proprietors or bowlers in equal measure. If anyone is willing to at least try something I will applaud their efforts.

[fordman1]

Maybe I am wrong but the local assn.'s do all the collecting of Certification fee's, they get all the averages from the leagues and put send everything to USBC. The work is done before it is sent in.

[fordman1]

Not one person said a word about the fee change at the meeting. We will see the first night.

[JasonNJ]

There was some rumblings about the increase at my League Meeting last night but for the most part they took it in stride. Someone did ask what they get for being a member and I said the main one is the bonding and they cover the money in the league if it gets stolen.

[bowl1820]

There was some rumblings about the increase at my League Meeting last night but for the most part they took it in stride. Someone did ask what they get for being a member and I said the main one is the bonding and they cover the money in the league if it gets stolen.

I never heard any complaints at my meeting or on another league which I just happened to be at while waiting for my summer payout.

As for answering the question about what you get, they had handouts which listed benefits:
http://usbcongress.http.internapcdn.net/usbcongress/bowl/associations/pdfs/LeagueOfficerWhyCertify.PDF

[fordman1]

Did they raise he amount covered for theft? 10k fall really short.

[bowl1820]

Did they raise he amount covered for theft? 10k fall really short.

Check the rulebook Chapter 7: League Bonding, Burglary and Holdup Insurance for info on bonding.

http://usbcongress.http.internapcdn.net/usbcongress/bowl/rulebook/2017-2018Rulebook.pdf

if your over 10k your covered

"League officers are automatically bonded for up to $10,000. Leagues with prize funds in excess of
$10,000 receive full coverage, provided the full amount of the prize fund is indicated on the league
certification application when submitted to the local association."

The 2017-2018 Rule Changes are shown here:
http://usbcongress.http.internapcdn.net/usbcongress/bowl/rulebook/RuleChanges2017-2018.pdf