My league Prize List

[bowl1820]

This is the Prize list for my Tuesday night league, We had three to choose from and this was the winner. My team leaves it up to me to determine which prize list to vote on and this was the one I picked.

Our league season is divided into 2 halves with payouts for 1st & 2nd halves .

The [PF % Per Half] is part of something new I was working on in a spreadsheet, Where I was comparing the different lists.

Seeing which ones had the better payout percentages for different places and sections of the list. As a way to compare and pick the best prize list, It's not really practical for use at the lanes. But I was looking at using it to compare other prize lists and past ones. (I was testing a BBcode table generator, which I used to produce the table in this post)

The [PF % Per Half] is the percentage of the prize money available for each half that spot got.

Place1st Half2nd HalfPF % Per HalfTeam Awards
1$400.00$400.005.57%High Scratch Game$40.00
2$384.00$384.005.35%High Scratch Series$40.00
3$364.00$364.005.07%High Handicap Game$40.00
4$352.00$352.004.91%High Handicap Series$40.00
5$340.00$340.004.74%
6$328.00$328.004.57%Individual Awards
7$316.00$316.004.40%Men Scratch Game$10.00
8$300.00$300.004.18%Men Scratch Series$10.00
9$292.00$292.004.07%Men Handicap Game$10.00
10$280.00$280.003.90%Men Handicap Series$10.00
11$268.00$268.003.73%Women Scratch Game$10.00
12$256.00$256.003.57%Women Scratch Series$10.00
13$244.00$244.003.40%Women Handicap Game$10.00
14$232.00$232.003.23%Women Handicap Series$10.00
15$220.00$220.003.07%
16$200.00$200.002.79%Totals
17$180.00$180.002.51%First Half$7,176.00
18$176.00$176.002.45%Second Half$7,176.00
19$172.00$172.002.40%Team Awards$160.00
20$168.00$168.002.34%Individual Awards$80.00
21$164.00$164.002.29%
22$160.00$160.002.23%Total Prize Fund$14,592.00
23$156.00$156.002.17%
24$152.00$152.002.12%
25$148.00$148.002.06%
26$144.00$144.002.01%
27$140.00$140.001.95%
28$136.00$136.001.90%
29$132.00$132.001.84%
30$128.00$128.001.78%
31$124.00$124.001.73%
32$120.00$120.001.67%2017-2018

[bowl1820]

This little table shows the list divided into 3rds.

PlaceWinnerPrize List 2Prize List 3
Top 3rd$3,356.0046.77%$3,788.0052.79%$3,720.0051.84%
Middle$2,280.0031.77%$2,068.0028.82%$1,992.0027.76 %
Bottom$1,540.0021.46%$1,320.0018.39%$1,464.0020.40 %

If you figured you'd be in the top 10, List 2 would be the best overall (because it payed out places 1-7 better than list 3). But if you figured you'd place anywhere else then list 1 (the winner) was the best.

Heres the longer list showing all the places and the comparisons.

While we may be doing well at the moment and I might hope to be in the top 10. I erred on the side of caution and went with the one I thought payed out the best for the most places 1-16, so went for list 1.

PlacePrize List 1Prize List 2Prize List 3
1$400.005.57%$540.007.53%$512.007.13%
2$384.005.35%$500.006.97%$464.006.47%
3$364.005.07%$464.006.47%$432.006.02%
4$352.004.91%$428.005.96%$404.005.63%
5$340.004.74%$392.005.46%$380.005.30%
6$328.004.57%$356.004.96%$356.004.96%
7$316.004.40%$320.004.46%$332.004.63%
8$300.004.18%$284.003.96%$304.004.24%
9$292.004.07%$260.003.62%$280.003.90%
10$280.003.90%$244.003.40%$256.003.57%

11$268.003.73%$228.003.18%$232.003.23%
12$256.003.57%$220.003.07%$208.002.90%
13$244.003.40%$212.002.95%$192.002.68%
14$232.003.23%$204.002.84%$184.002.56%
15$220.003.07%$196.002.73%$180.002.51%
16$200.002.79%$188.002.62%$176.002.45%
17$180.002.51%$180.002.51%$172.002.40%
18$176.002.45%$172.002.40%$168.002.34%
19$172.002.40%$164.002.29%$164.002.29%
20$168.002.34%$156.002.17%$160.002.23%
21$164.002.29%$148.002.06%$156.002.17%

22$160.002.23%$140.001.95%$152.002.12%
23$156.002.17%$136.001.90%$148.002.06%
24$152.002.12%$132.001.84%$144.002.01%
25$148.002.06%$128.001.78%$140.001.95%
26$144.002.01%$124.001.73%$136.001.90%
27$140.001.95%$120.001.67%$132.001.84%
28$136.001.90%$116.001.62%$128.001.78%
29$132.001.84%$112.001.56%$124.001.73%
30$128.001.78%$108.001.51%$120.001.67%
31$124.001.73%$104.001.45%$120.001.67%
32$120.001.67%$100.001.39%$120.001.67%

[fordman1]

Our pay out is a little simpler. We have 24 teams using a 7 point sys.
There is 2 halves.
Each half winner gets $300.
Then on last night they bowl for $1000 more, winner takes all.
Everyone else will get roughly $19.60 per point.
High team series gets Team high game gets the same
1st place $200
2nd place $125
3rd place $50
Individual game and series
1st $60
2nd $40
3rd $20
We also have a Pizza party with 30 pizzas, 3- 6" Subs, snacks and 3 kegs of beer.

[bowl1820]

Our pay out is a little simpler. We have 24 teams using a 7 point sys.
There is 2 halves.
Each half winner gets $300.
Then on last night they bowl for $1000 more, winner takes all.
Everyone else will get roughly $19.60 per point.
High team series gets Team high game gets the same
1st place $200
2nd place $125
3rd place $50
Individual game and series
1st $60
2nd $40
3rd $20
We also have a Pizza party with 30 pizzas, 3- 6" Subs, snacks and 3 kegs of beer.


That's not a bad payout, What do have about a 60K prizefund?

But it's not simpler than only paying out place money.

[Amyers]

Must be a high fee league to payout $19.60 a point or maybe a misplaced decimal?

[fordman1]

$23 per week one dollar is mandatory 50\50. Lineage is $9.80 per week. That is the cheap part. Pots are high, very high.

[JasonNJ]

$23 per week one dollar is mandatory 50\50. Lineage is $9.80 per week. That is the cheap part. Pots are high, very high.

I wish my lineage was $9.80. I'm in a fun league only $19/week but our lineage is $13.40 which for Jersey I think is pretty good.

[bowl1820]

I wish my lineage was $9.80. I'm in a fun league only $19/week but our lineage is $13.40 which for Jersey I think is pretty good.

We are $15 a week with a $24 sponsor fee and our lineage is $11.50

[Amyers]

Mine our $20, $17, and $18. Lineage ranges from $8.50 to $9.00. Our payouts to the winners are higher but no where near $19 a point that's amazing to me. My highest is around $10 per point. Is it a 3 point per night or 4 point per night league?

[bowl1820]

Mine our $20, $17, and $18. Lineage ranges from $8.50 to $9.00. Our payouts to the winners are higher but no where near $19 a point that's amazing to me. My highest is around $10 per point. Is it a 3 point per night or 4 point per night league?

According to fords earlier post his league has 24 teams using a 7 point system.

If their teams going 34 weeks, Thats at least a $60,000 prize fund to payout $19.60 a point and the other awards.

Plus all the pots it appears you can buy into according to this sheet he posted

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https://s5.postimg.org/enjxy6kcz/BOTTOM_1718_1.jpg (https://postimg.org/image/enjxy6kcz/)

They must have a lot of money to throw away.

[Amyers]

According to fords earlier post his league has 24 teams using a 7 point system.

If their teams going 34 weeks, Thats at least a $60,000 prize fund to payout $19.60 a point and the other awards.

Plus all the pots it appears you can buy into according to this sheet he posted

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https://s5.postimg.org/enjxy6kcz/BOTTOM_1718_1.jpg (https://postimg.org/image/enjxy6kcz/)

They must have a lot of money to throw away.

I must have missed that post. Maybe all the pot games make the payout possible but that's insane especially with 7 point system.

[fordman1]

33 Weeks. If you win half of the points you would have 116. That would get you $2270 for the team. Usually last place would get about 80 Pts. for $1570. Highest ever won was 159 points. That would pay $3116. More if you win a half or roll off. I am amazed at the amount of money these guys spend too. Black jack started as a pot 3 weeks ago and will be worth $850 this week. Some one wants to run brackets soon also.
Did I mention that the house runs Texas holdem. $5 a hand and they have 10 boards. It is crazy.

[Amyers]

33 Weeks. If you win half of the points you would have 116. That would get you $2270 for the team. Usually last place would get about 80 Pts. for $1570. Highest ever won was 159 points. That would pay $3116. More if you win a half or roll off. I am amazed at the amount of money these guys spend too. Black jack started as a pot 3 weeks ago and will be worth $850 this week. Some one wants to run brackets soon also.
Did I mention that the house runs Texas holdem. $5 a hand and they have 10 boards. It is crazy.

Sounds like your league is about 50% bowling 50% casino. Nothing wrong with that

[bowl1820]

Sounds like your league is about 50% bowling 50% casino. Nothing wrong with that

Boy I'm looking at the rules for that league, teams got to pay a $100 team fee (Sponsor fee I guess) the first night.

http://www.leaguesecretary.com/Uploads/2017/f/7/998310202017f201707LGRULE00.pdf


And that team handicap, it has basically 3 different team handicaps that can be used.

Team handicap is 90% of 1100 or

If both teams averages are above 1100 you use 90% of team difference or

If one teams average is above 1100 then the other team gets 100% of the above as a bonus plus the regular handicap!

WOW BONUS HANDICAP pins!!!

[fordman1]

Bowl I had never looked at the rules in bls. It is a little misleading. We don't allow teams in the league with over 1050. If they ever happen to improve that much the next year they won't be asked back. Never had a problem.

The $100 is paid at the banquet to hold your spot for next year. Don't pay and you might get left out.

The 21 game cushion and 10 pin drop rule keeps the baggers down to a minimum but nothing is for sure.
I rerated a bowler 2 years ago and he quit. I don't use the bls program for fees I use my own excel program.