Helicopter / UFO style

[mattmc82]

I have so far been unable to locate any videos or tutorials that accurately show or explain how the release works for this throw. Any throw this style or do I need to try some website in taiwan?

interested on people's thoughts on doing this release with non dominant hand and my normal tweener roll with my dominant.

many thanks

[JasonNJ]

Here's probably the best video of it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YaBj2y7oEJU

From what I've seen it's all about deflection. They use about a 12lb ball and they almost flip it backhanded. The best carry seems to crossover Brooklyn. To me it doesn't look too hard to do but I have never tried it.

Almost forgot to ask. Why would you want to do this with your non-dominant hand? Usually leagues or competitions you're not allowed to switch hands bowling.

[fordman1]

I have seen another video where it was girls. They threw what looked like plastic off the corner and very hard. Everything looked like they were trying to hit Brooklyn. This video was more traditional looking.

[chip82901]

Here's probably the best video of it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YaBj2y7oEJU

From what I've seen it's all about deflection. They use about a 12lb ball and they almost flip it backhanded. The best carry seems to crossover Brooklyn. To me it doesn't look too hard to do but I have never tried it.

Almost forgot to ask. Why would you want to do this with your non-dominant hand? Usually leagues or competitions you're not allowed to switch hands bowling.

That looks like my wrist would be done after the 2nd shot lol

[bowl1820]

That looks like my wrist would be done after the 2nd shot lol

Which is why most use light weight 10-12 pound balls for this style.

[bowl1820]

I have so far been unable to locate any videos or tutorials that accurately show or explain how the release works for this throw. Any throw this style or do I need to try some website in taiwan?

interested on people's thoughts on doing this release with non dominant hand and my normal tweener roll with my dominant.

many thanks

You need to look at Asian video's mainly, because their about the only ones that use that style. Virtually no one uses it here, they had the extreme conditions that allowed the release to work for them.

Typically plastic balls are used and You need to use light weight 10-12 pound balls, because heavy balls really increase the chances doing damage to your elbow, wrists etc.

And as Jason said why use your non-dominant hand? you can't switch back and forth during competition.

[boatman37]

I know a guy that bowled left handed but could throw it to hook left like a right hander would. And he could consistently get strikes. He didn't normally throw that way but just for fun he would do it once in awhile. I was impressed. Guess maybe it would help with 7's?

Anyway, back to our regularly scheduled program:

[mattmc82]

You need to look at Asian video's mainly, because their about the only ones that use that style. Virtually no one uses it here, they had the extreme conditions that allowed the release to work for them.

Typically plastic balls are used and You need to use light weight 10-12 pound balls, because heavy balls really increase the chances doing damage to your elbow, wrists etc.

And as Jason said why use your non-dominant hand? you can't switch back and forth during competition.

The reason is so I do not screw up my delivery with my dominant arm. I would only be using this in a league I am in that doesn't strip the oil from the lanes. We have 32 people, we are in week 6 of our third season and only one person has had a 600 series (1 time). the top 3 scores for a single game were all straight ballers (246, 245, 235) but none of them even have had a 550 series. just looking for a way to win on garbage lanes that use used pins from other alleys and dont strip oil

[Amyers]

it's not something that your going to pick up and do. It has its own timing and release that has to be mastered. It's like deciding your going to bowl two handed on oily conditions.

[bowl1820]

The reason is so I do not screw up my delivery with my dominant arm. I would only be using this in a league I am in that doesn't strip the oil from the lanes. We have 32 people, we are in week 6 of our third season and only one person has had a 600 series (1 time). the top 3 scores for a single game were all straight ballers (246, 245, 235) but none of them even have had a 550 series. just looking for a way to win on garbage lanes that use used pins from other alleys and dont strip oil


If the league has already started and you started the league right-handed you can't switch to left-handed (except under certain circumstances and you'd have to get the leagues permission and you'd have to reestablish your average.)

Since you say the straight ballers are scoring high games, Instead of trying to learn and use a new unconventual style with your non dominate hand.

You'd be better off practicing and rolling a straight ball with your dominate hand.

[mattmc82]

But none of them have even a 550 series. Which means they can’t even muscle a couple 160s after throwing a 245!

[JasonNJ]

But none of them have even a 550 series. Which means they can’t even muscle a couple 160s after throwing a 245!

I don't know if that really means anything. What are the averages for the people with the high games? Maybe they were just lucky games and 150ish are their regular average. Also when you say they don't strip the lanes of oil, do you mean they don't oil at all or they just lay oil on top on oil? What kind of ball reaction are you getting? Maybe there is something you can change to get a better ball reaction.

[mattmc82]

They just lay it on top when they do oil. Guys with 180-190 averages elsewhere have like 140 at this house. Everyone has same problem of inconsistency. The oil is all the way to the pins you can see pins slide across without falling like they are skating.