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Bobb64
07-30-2019, 05:08 PM
Hi Everyone,
Could anyone tell me what type of oil is the standard lane surface oil used for the synthetic type of lane flooring material?
Many Thanks!

J Anderson
07-30-2019, 09:40 PM
Your best bet would be to ask one of the people who oil the lanes where you bowl.

J Daisy
07-30-2019, 11:07 PM
It would make sense to me that different bowling alleys use different kinds of oil, depending on several factors including what is available to them. But that is just a guess. I think your best bet would be to do as J Anderson suggests and ask the center at which you bowl. I'm sure somebody there would be able to help you. :)

bowl1820
07-30-2019, 11:12 PM
Hi Everyone,
Could anyone tell me what type of oil is the standard lane surface oil used for the synthetic type of lane flooring material?
Many Thanks!

As J Anderson said To know what your house is using you'd have to ask them. There is no "standard " one that is used every where.

There are many types of oil used on today's synthetic lanes, made by several companies. Take a look here at Kegel they have 11 different types.

http://www.kegel.net/lane-supplies-home

For the most part mineral oil is used for the base, but with different amounts/types of additives used with it to to create increased durability, performance, friction, viscosity etc.

here's a article that can give you a idea about modern lane conditioners (oil)

10 Things That Everyone Should Know About Lane Conditioners
http://www.kegel.net/wpa/cc01

Bobb64
08-01-2019, 07:52 PM
As J Anderson said To know what your house is using you'd have to ask them. There is no "standard " one that is used every where.

There are many types of oil used on today's synthetic lanes, made by several companies. Take a look here at Kegel they have 11 different types.

http://www.kegel.net/lane-supplies-home

For the most part mineral oil is used for the base, but with different amounts/types of additives used with it to to create increased durability, performance, friction, viscosity etc.

here's a article that can give you a idea about modern lane conditioners (oil)

10 Things That Everyone Should Know About Lane Conditioners
http://www.kegel.net/wpa/cc01
Thanks for the tips!

Bobb64
08-01-2019, 07:53 PM
Thanks John!

Bobb64
08-01-2019, 07:55 PM
Hi J Daisy,
Did so, they weren t much help.But thanks anyways.

J Daisy
08-01-2019, 10:10 PM
Hi J Daisy,
Did so, they weren t much help.But thanks anyways.

I'm sorry to hear that. You'd think they would know, seeing as it is them who oil the lanes. I hope you can find the answers you're looking for. Sorry I can't help much there. :)

bowl1820
08-02-2019, 12:11 AM
You'd think they would know, seeing as it is them who oil the lanes.

One thing you learn after you start bowling is that the majority of houses don't tell the bowlers what the oil they use is or what the oil pattern is.

Most of the employees are clueless and don't know anything about it in the first place, they just press a button on the machine and it lays the pattern and the one's that do know about it guard it like a state secret.

Mainly it's because they don't want to hear the players complaining. It doesn't matter if they had the best oil and the easiest pattern there was out there. Someone bowls bad on it, it's the oil and the houses fault.

Some don't want them to know they use the cheapest oil, put out as little as they have to etc. etc.

The thing to realize is for the most part , knowing the pattern, oil type etc. doesn't really help the majority of bowlers. They don't really understand or know how to make use of the information once they get it and (a little knowledge is a dangerous thing) it could actually hurt them.

Most are better off not worrying about it at first, They would be better off just getting out on the lane and watching how their ball reacts and adjusting to what they see. Not trying play the lane how they think the "oil pattern" says it should be played.

J Daisy
08-02-2019, 07:54 AM
One thing you learn after you start bowling is that the majority of houses don't tell the bowlers what the oil they use is or what the oil pattern is.

Most of the employees are clueless and don't know anything about it in the first place, they just press a button on the machine and it lays the pattern and the one's that do know about it guard it like a state secret.

Mainly it's because they don't want to hear the players complaining. It doesn't matter if they had the best oil and the easiest pattern there was out there. Someone bowls bad on it, it's the oil and the houses fault.

Some don't want them to know they use the cheapest oil, put out as little as they have to etc. etc.

The thing to realize is for the most part , knowing the pattern, oil type etc. doesn't really help the majority of bowlers. They don't really understand or know how to make use of the information once they get it and (a little knowledge is a dangerous thing) it could actually hurt them.

Most are better off not worrying about it at first, They would be better off just getting out on the lane and watching how their ball reacts and adjusting to what they see. Not trying play the lane how they think the "oil pattern" says it should be played.

I've never looked at it like that. Thanks. :)

And I have been bowling for a while, anyway. A little under a year. What do you mean, “One thing you learn after you start bowling”? Since you quoted me, I'm assuming that this is directed at me rather than in general. No offense taken either way... I still have a lot to learn yet, and I know that. :)

bowl1820
08-02-2019, 09:24 AM
I've never looked at it like that. Thanks. :)

And I have been bowling for a while, anyway. A little under a year. What do you mean, “One thing you learn after you start bowling”? Since you quoted me, I'm assuming that this is directed at me rather than in general. No offense taken either way... I still have a lot to learn yet, and I know that. :)

It wasn't directed at you specfically, more at just new bowlers in general. "You" in this case was referring to a group of people (in this case "newer bowlers" ) like when a speaker is addressing a group and they say "Are you listening" it's not directed at anyone audience member specifically And quoting you was just to reference a specific point so that it gave my post more context.

Amyers
08-02-2019, 10:01 AM
It wasn't directed at you specfically, more at just new bowlers in general. "You" in this case was referring to a group of people (in this case "newer bowlers" ) like when a speaker is addressing a group and they say "Are you listening" it's not directed at anyone audience member specifically And quoting you was just to reference a specific point so that it gave my post more context.

Truthfully I see this in youth tournaments bowled on sports patters all the time even from somewhat experienced bowlers who think they can look at a lane pattern graph and "know" where to play. Especially at some of our local centers that have well worn surfaces doesn't mean that pattern will play typically here even if you bowled on it before at another house.

mc_runner
08-02-2019, 09:20 PM
Truthfully I see this in youth tournaments bowled on sports patters all the time even from somewhat experienced bowlers who think they can look at a lane pattern graph and "know" where to play. Especially at some of our local centers that have well worn surfaces doesn't mean that pattern will play typically here even if you bowled on it before at another house.

I mean, Rule of 31 should give you a pretty decent starting idea of where/how you want to start... adjust from there. If I see a 41 ft pattern graph I know my breakpoint is going to be around 10. The rest of the pattern is going to dictate the ball and angle I want to get there with.

J Daisy
08-02-2019, 11:45 PM
It wasn't directed at you specfically, more at just new bowlers in general. "You" in this case was referring to a group of people (in this case "newer bowlers" ) like when a speaker is addressing a group and they say "Are you listening" it's not directed at anyone audience member specifically And quoting you was just to reference a specific point so that it gave my post more context.

Thanks for clarifying that for me. :)

JaxBowlingGuy
08-05-2019, 01:34 AM
My house is pretty open as to the oils and pattern they use. The owner is a past PWBA member and still bowls multiple nights a week so she’s more “in tune” with the bowler than others may be. We switched to the Fire and Ice oil when they bought a Flex machine either last year or year before. Prior to that they were using Prodigy oil. As for the pattern, it changes each year but the ones who actually know the pattern are open about letting you know. I think it’ll really just be hit or miss. Privately owned centers you’ll probably be more likely to get info out of them vs chain centers.