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boatman37
09-08-2020, 10:41 PM
Well prior to last week my wife had probably bowled maybe 30 games in her whole life. Since they opened our league to women she decided to bowl. She isn't a big fan of it but figured she'd give it a try. She is using an 8lb house ball for now. Ordered her a new 8lb Twist but it isn't in yet. Tried to get her into a 10 or 12 but she refused and she refused any help too. She said she is there for fun and whatever she bowls she bowls. So last week she had 87, 73, 86. She got a little better tonight. 123, 106, 77 so now her average is 92. Problem is max handicap is 85 so anything below about 136 hurts us but we are having fun.

She should have her new ball next week so maybe that will help too.

Stormed1
09-12-2020, 01:06 AM
See iof you can get the pro shop operaterto give her a gfew tips on rolling her n ew ball. Many tiomes wives and kids won't listyen to family.

RobLV1
09-12-2020, 01:04 PM
Years ago Wendy Macpherson gave me some really good advice for coaches: never coach anyone who you've ever seen naked. That includes your spouse, and YOURSELF! LOL

boatman37
09-12-2020, 01:17 PM
Years ago Wendy Macpherson gave me some really good advice for coaches: never coach anyone who you've ever seen naked. That includes your spouse, and YOURSELF! LOL

lol. Good tip!

Picked up her new ball today. Her average after 2 weeks was 92. Today she rolled 105, 119, and 105 with it.She will be bowling league with it again Tuesday. I pre-bowled today cause I won't be there Tuesday but I'll post that in another thread. But picked up my replacement for the cracked Glam and 1/2 way through the 2nd game my one insert landed 1/2 way down the lane...lol. But left a ton of 7's with it.

boatman37
09-15-2020, 09:38 PM
Well I pre-bowled so was a cheerleader tonight but wife bowled with her new ball. She is getting better. 116, 101, 91 (308). New average is 95.5

boatman37
09-24-2020, 04:27 PM
I pre-bowled again as I am in Baytown, TX right now but wife and rest of team bowled the other night and won all 3. One teammate had his first ever 600 and it wasn't even close. He rolled a 202, 236, 225 (663). He is about a 170 average bowler and his wife is about 150 but she rolled 144, 186, 191 (521). My wife rolled a 102, 113, 95 (310). She bumped her average up 2 more pins. We are now in a 3 way tie for 2nd

boatman37
09-29-2020, 12:52 PM
Teammate just texted he pre-bowled today. 247, 218, 226 (691). He has only bowled one other week this season so far so his average is skewed but his average before today was 208. Last year I think he finished about 204 so that should help us tonight.

boatman37
09-29-2020, 10:03 PM
Wife had a 112, 112, and 80 tonight. I had 164, 215, 218 (597).

Tonight we bowled a high average team but they have been struggling (or sandbagging?) all year and their averages are about 30 less than they were last year. Tonight they broke the season records for high handicap game and series. We beat our average all 3 games and got stomped. 1st game we beat our team average by 112 and still lost by 134.

Their averages and series were as follows:
186 622
213 689
197 683
188 655
172 590

So yeah they crushed their averages tonight.

Our team:
204 691
185 597
186 662
152 405
97 304

We were spotted 84 pins/game.

I had trouble finding the line in game 1. Game 2 picked up a little speed and started hitting the pocket. Uppercut was biting hard. Game 3 used the Igniter and it tamed down the reaction nicely.

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Ryster
09-30-2020, 11:35 AM
Wife had a 112, 112, and 80 tonight. I had 164, 215, 218 (597).

Tonight we bowled a high average team but they have been struggling (or sandbagging?) all year and their averages are about 30 less than they were last year. Tonight they broke the season records for high handicap game and series. We beat our average all 3 games and got stomped. 1st game we beat our team average by 112 and still lost by 134.

Their averages and series were as follows:
186 622
213 689
197 683
188 655
172 590

So yeah they crushed their averages tonight.


Around here we call that "average management". It is becoming very prevalent on handicap leagues. The typically high average bowlers lay down when bowling lower average teams, turn it back on when they need to, and then turn it back off when not needed. Keeps their averages where they need to stay in contention and not spot other teams tons of pins.

boatman37
09-30-2020, 02:19 PM
Around here we call that "average management". It is becoming very prevalent on handicap leagues. The typically high average bowlers lay down when bowling lower average teams, turn it back on when they need to, and then turn it back off when not needed. Keeps their averages where they need to stay in contention and not spot other teams tons of pins.

Not certain they did it on purpose. The one guy that normally averages 220 was at about 188 before last night but he is very competitive and hates to lose. They were close to last place. Another guy on their team I could see maybe doing that. 3 of them have been bowling as good this year as he always has so he hasn't been sandbagging. So really just the 2 but their one guy averages about 172 and rolled 590ish. But we are running 3 thirds this year instead of 2 halves so maybe that changed their mentality?

Checked the standings. We were tied for 2nd but now tied for 4th so even though we went 0-7 last night we didn't drop that far. Next week we bowl the highest average team in the league against the PSO and the owner. Team is stacked but are beatable.

The team that beat us last night rolled this (scratch/handicap):
Game 1: 1155/1327

Game 2: 1059/1231

Game 3: 1025/1197

5 man teams means game 1 the scratch team average was 231. Their scores that game were 178, 225, 237, 235, 280. Their team average going into last night was 956.

But I'm feeling more confident in my game. I now have the ability/confidence to make big moves if I need to and feeling more confident about when I need to make those moves. Game 1 I'm pretty sure if I had either picked up speed or moved in a couple of boards I would have had a much better game. Ball was just coming in too hot and I waited too long to make a change. Game 2 I had a good line but left a flat 10 so made a move right away instead of waiting 2 or 3 more frames like I usually do. That was the 8th frame of game 2. Picked up speed early in game 2 then hit a 4 bagger then left the 7. Moved in a couple of boards for fresh oil and started striking again.

Timmyb
09-30-2020, 04:31 PM
Around here we call that "average management". It is becoming very prevalent on handicap leagues. The typically high average bowlers lay down when bowling lower average teams, turn it back on when they need to, and then turn it back off when not needed. Keeps their averages where they need to stay in contention and not spot other teams tons of pins.

See a TON of people doing that in the league we just moved to The team we bowled last night was grumbling a little, as my 207 average walking in last night got me 12 pins handicap, and then I dropped 729 on them. I don't sandbag--what you see me bowl is always as good as I can give you. It's just not in me.

Ryster
10-01-2020, 01:50 PM
See a TON of people doing that in the league we just moved to The team we bowled last night was grumbling a little, as my 207 average walking in last night got me 12 pins handicap, and then I dropped 729 on them. I don't sandbag--what you see me bowl is always as good as I can give you. It's just not in me.

I agree 100%. I always give it my all when I am bowling. Some nights are better than others, but I always want to leave knowing that I gave it my all, regardless of the outcome.

I never understood how some bowlers can feel good knowing they were purposely under performing to keep an average down. I mean, the prize fund in most handicap leagues isn't worth the work and effort to try and do such a thing.

boatman37
10-06-2020, 11:00 PM
Wife is consistent! Tonight she rolled 113, 106, 96.

I had an up and down night. Warm ups were tough then started the first few frames struggling to find the line. I was tempted to pull out the Conspiracy but finally got the pocket about the 4th or 5th frame of game 1. Line was still working until early in game 3. I was targeting the 2nd arrow all night but early in game 3 it started hooking too early and crossing over. I knew I either needed to move into the oil or ball down. The last few weeks I had been using the Uppercut the first 2 games then going to the Igniter and really like that ball so decided to switch. Well the Igniter would not hook at all at the 2nd arrow so about 1/2 way through game 3 I moved out to the 7 board and that was the line. Salvaged a decent 3rd game but was disappointed after the first 2 games were so good.

We bowled the PSO's team and they won the first 2. I had a 626 (232, 208, 186), teammate had a 654. PSO had a 724 using the Radical Results pearl all night. By the end of the night he was lined up with the left gutter and throwing out over it crossing the whole lane. 2 other of their team members had a 681 and 654.

I'm feeling really confident lately. Last 3 weeks were 608, 597, and 626. I was 4/4 on single pin spares (2/2 on 7 pins). Have the confidence that I can move around if I need to. The way I started tonight I normally would have struggled mentally and took much longer to figure it out. Average is up 11 pins in the last 3 weeks (191.77 now). Want to be at least 195 by the end of the year but think I can get to 200. Still lots of time left.

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boatman37
10-07-2020, 08:21 PM
Bored again so figured I'd post these.

Stats are up for last night. Here were the scores:

Our team (Averages)
136 176 146 (149)
160 246 248 (200)
113 106 96 (99)
232 208 186 (me) (191)
157 186 180 (190)

Them
255 221 248 (PSO) (229)
188 222 171 (204)
264 237 180 (227)
225 265 164 (213)
203 179 188 (owner) (190)

They were spotting us 180/game handicap. They won game 1 by 157, game 2 by 22 and we won game 3 by 85. We are tied for 5th place of 11 teams. Our opponent is in 2nd.

High games last night were 288, 268, 266. High series were 732, 724 (PSO), and 709. Surprisingly we have not had any 300's yet this year.

boatman37
10-13-2020, 10:16 PM
Wife kicked butt tonight but we still lost all 3. She had a 133, 121, 128 (382). Her average was 99 before tonight. Her high game was 123 before tonight. Her new average is now 103.3.
We had 2 members pre-bowl and they struggled a little so we had our work cut out for us. Didn't help that the other team was on fire. the 2 pre-bowlers had 446 and 469 series and their averages are 146 and 190 respectively. One of our teammates had a 184, 235, and 192 (611). His average was 200 before tonight. I had 2 tough games then 3rd game clicked. Had a 177, 189, 254 (620). My spare shooting was awful. Would have been a great night if I would have made even half of my spares. We were on the end pair and they seemed to transition quick and got real dry. I started with the Uppercut targeting the 10 board. I was hitting the pocket good but missing spares. Early in game 2 it started drying up so I started moving in but was chasing it. Moved in about 5 boards and after a couple of frames I would lose it so switched to the Ignitor about the 7th frame of game 2. Tried the 10 board but ball wouldn't come in. Moved out to the 7 board and picked up speed and nailed it. Had 10 strikes in game 3. Started with 3 then an open and spare then finished with the back 7.

Game 1 we were 22 under our average and they were over by 4. Game 2 we were over our average by 63 and they were over theirs by 32 but they still won by 1 pin. Game 3 we were exactly on our average and they were over theirs by 4 again. We were getting 31 pins handicap.

I'm happy with my strike % the last 4 weeks but I need to be more consistent making my spares. Tonight I was 6/12 on spares and 3/5 on single pin spares. I missed an 8 pin and a 10 pin. The last 4 weeks my average is 204.16. My strike % is 54% and my spare % is 64% with 84% single pin. 9/11 on 7 pins so that has been good. I was 1/1 tonight on 7 pins.

My highest season end average ever was 193 and that was about 2001 before my 17 year break. I'm at 193.9 now. Soft goal is to be over 200 by the end of this season and hard goal is 205.

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boatman37
10-14-2020, 08:12 PM
Well standings are updated and I'm 8th highest average in the league...kind of...lol. Only those with 21 games are eligible so that eliminates a bunch of higher averages...lol. I'll probably be closer to about 20th in a couple of weeks

Stormed1
10-16-2020, 12:56 PM
I have only managed my abverage once n my life for 3 weeks. First night of bowling I shot 768 which gave me a -453 handicap. The next 3 weeks i went 90 clean but did not throw the right ball to styrike.. Shot 630-650 each week and lowered my average to 228 which left me at -17 which i could deal with. Finished year at 226 and -15 for handicap.. during those first 4 weeks we only won 15 of 28 points. We won the second half and only won the league by 8 pins because i shot 289 game 3. The next year they raised the base average for handicap from210 to 225

boatman37
10-20-2020, 10:14 PM
Wife still getting better and still consistent. 105, 106, 128. Average now is 104.58. Me? Well I'm going the other way. Tonight I had a 142, 155, 119 (416). Only had 5 strikes all night. My last 3 weeks I had 22, 18, and 18 strikes respectively. Had 5 tonight! Hit the pocket quite a bit but left pins. We lost all 3 again. I think we have lost all 3 for the last 3 or 4 weeks.

I tried everything. Uppercut, Igniter, and my old Rhino. Played from the 5 board to the 18 board. Tried coming around the ball and stayed behind it. Could hit the pocket every way I tried but no strikes. Lanes were dry. Don't know what else I could have done. Oh well. On to next week.

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boatman37
10-26-2020, 12:52 PM
Not blaming my surface at all for last weeks debacle but looked and realized I had about 27 games on the new Uppercut and it still had the OOB surface and had not been touched. I ordered new CTD pads the other day and today I put it on the spinner starting with a 1/2 worn 1000, then a fairly worn 2000 then a brand new 3000. Will see how that works. I had been using 1/2 worn 3000's on most of my stuff lately but wanted a little more separation between the Uppercut and Igniter so should get it here. Uppercut looks slightly more aggressive than OOB. Going to take my Squatch with me in case the Uppercut is way too aggressive. Last week lanes were on the dryer side so the Uppercut may be a little difficult if they are that dry again. The Squatch should fit right in between the Upercut and Igniter so will have that in case I run into issues.

boatman37
10-27-2020, 10:09 PM
Good night. Used the Uppercut all 3 games with no adjustments. Wife hit her first stumbling block tonight. She had an 82, 93, 115 but her average will only drop 1 pin from 104 to 103.

I will post my details in a new thread

boatman37
11-03-2020, 09:57 PM
Wife had 113, 123, 141. She finished game 3 with a 4 bagger to help us get the win. Her average is now 105.90