Transition

[boatman37]

Well things are much different now. Since our summer league team wasn't very good I used it as practice for more rotation and different hand positions. Now that I have that in my arsenal it is one more thing to adjust to. So tonight I started at the 10 board with the Uppercut and more hand. That worked good for about 15 or so frames then it went away. Moved in a few boards but still coming in too high. Tried moving out to the 7 board with a flatter hand and still too much. Switched to the Glam and tried outside but struggled hitting the pocket. Hit high so move 1/2 board and hit light. Moved in to the 10 board and same thing. Moved in to about the 13 board and started tugging my shots. Moved back outside and flattened my hand and came in too high. Near the end of game 3 I was back to the Uppercut standing further right (lefty here) and targeting the 10 board but struggled with consistency. It seems like now that I'm getting more rotation I seem to be getting better at that but now it seems harder to stay behind the ball like I used to.

The Glam isn't much different than my Black Widow Gold was but now I think I might need to start using my Rhino late in the night. I was the only lefty on our pair tonight and seems like I burned it up much quicker than I'm used to and even the Glam seems to be a little too much late. They are replacing the Glam under warranty (cracked around thumbhole) so next week should have the new Ignitor to replace it. Kind of hoping that ball is a little weaker than the Glam. But thinking I'll take the Rhino too. That ball has always rolled almost straight but now everything I have is hooking so much more that the Rhino might be good late in the night.

I do wish I had moved further in tonight when I started to struggle. Last week I was targeting the 15 board and even a few times inside that. Tonight was a close game so I was reluctant to get too far outside my comfort zone. In fact habit and comfort wanted to get me back outside when I was struggling but I knew that wasn't working so I forced myself to stay a little more inside.

So my question is this...do you guys typically change hand positions as part of transition adjustment or do you keep the same hand position and just move your line and/or ball down?

I have to say, I had a little trouble relating to some of the talk in here because it seemed no matter what I did my shot looked the same almost all night. It seemed no matter what ball I used I could stand in the same place and target the same board and the ball would hit about the same spot unless it was an extreme ball change. Example is the Uppercut and Glam. They are close enough that I could stand in the same spot and target the same board and hit the pocket with both. Maybe the shape was slightly different. But now I need to move about 1.5 boards further in with the Uppercut. The other difference is when I tried moving right and targeting the 15 board my ball would go straight to the 4-7. Last week I was standing about 23 and targeting 12 at the arrows and was getting a nice arc to the pocket. A few months ago that would have been a 7 pin...lol. Even a couple I threw tonight went way outside by 3 or 4 boards and it came back to the pocket. I have also slowed my speed down quite a bit too, like maybe 2-2.5 MPH. I had been close to 17 MPH but tonight I think most of mine were low 15 and even a few 14's, although I did get a few up around 17 tonight.

[RobLV1]

It seems to me that you are becoming a victim of the magic marble syndrome... a ball change for every occasion. Look at this mathematically: if you have 4 bowling balls X 3 hand positions X 3 ball speeds X 3 lateral line adjustments = you have 108 possible combinations to try to find the right one for the night. Considering that there are only 12 frames per game X 3 games (36 frames), your odds of finding the right combination before the end of bowling are somewhere between slim and none!

So to answer your question: 2 balls X 2 hand positions X 1 ball speed X 3 lateral adjustments = 12 frames to get it right. At least you'll have two good games with the possibility of three if you can find it fast enough.

[boatman37]

It seems to me that you are becoming a victim of the magic marble syndrome... a ball change for every occasion. Look at this mathematically: if you have 4 bowling balls X 3 hand positions X 3 ball speeds X 3 lateral line adjustments = you have 108 possible combinations to try to find the right one for the night. Considering that there are only 12 frames per game X 3 games (36 frames), your odds of finding the right combination before the end of bowling are somewhere between slim and none!

So to answer your question: 2 balls X 2 hand positions X 1 ball speed X 3 lateral adjustments = 12 frames to get it right. At least you'll have two good games with the possibility of three if you can find it fast enough.

And that was the problem I was running into. So many different things to try and not enough frames to get it right. I have only been using 2 balls for the past 2 weeks but seems there might not be enough difference between them. The Uppercut has been perfect to start the night but after about 14-15 frames I have to start moving but then it seems like my new spot only works 2 or 3 frames then it's gone. At that point even a flat hand is too much for that ball (at least so far in the 2 weeks I have been doing this). So I ball down to the Glam and that is where I have been having trouble. Should I start back to heavy hand? Outside? Inside? etc. Then last night the Glam was too much by the end of the night and I gave up on it and went back to the Uppercut and moved back inside. But I realized my speed had crept back up and my consistency as gone. I think it's more a matter of I just need some time to figure out a progression for me. And as for for more marbles, well wife is bowling with me now so be too hard to sneak a new one in the bag anymore...lol. So I will likely be using what I have for awhile.

I think if I can figure out what I need for the end of game 3 then filling in the middle will be easier as long as I can figure out when to make the changes. Another thing I find myself thinking and I know it is a mental thing I need to get over and is absolutely wrong but when my first ball starts to go away I'm reluctant to change because I feel it's too early in the night and if I change too soon I won't have enough adjustment later on and I know that is the wrong mindset and not true.

But I feel like I have turned a corner lately and this progression thing everyone talks about now make sense but I need to put it to paper now so to speak.

[Ryster]

So my question is this...do you guys typically change hand positions as part of transition adjustment or do you keep the same hand position and just move your line and/or ball down?

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I find the ball that works best during practice, and then stick with it all night and adjust line as needed. If the look/motion I have with that ball totally goes away, and I mean literally just totally changes personality, then I will switch to something different. It is rare, however, for that to happen unless I am bowling with someone who happens to be using my same exact line. Constantly changing balls has the potential to really get you into trouble which is why I use it as a "last resort".

I bowl with someone who will put all 3 of his bowling balls on the rack to start the night. He will switch back and forth constantly, and then at one point will get 4-5 strikes in a row, and then switch balls again while on the streak. It drives us crazy! There is another guy on another team that does the same. At one point late last season, he bowled a 298 game and then immediately changed to a different ball to start the next game. He shot under 200 because he said he couldn't find the line that game...right after he shot 298. He had the line locked in and then for some reason decided to change balls and got totally confused.

[boatman37]

I find the ball that works best during practice, and then stick with it all night and adjust line as needed. If the look/motion I have with that ball totally goes away, and I mean literally just totally changes personality, then I will switch to something different. It is rare, however, for that to happen unless I am bowling with someone who happens to be using my same exact line. Constantly changing balls has the potential to really get you into trouble which is why I use it as a "last resort".

I bowl with someone who will put all 3 of his bowling balls on the rack to start the night. He will switch back and forth constantly, and then at one point will get 4-5 strikes in a row, and then switch balls again while on the streak. It drives us crazy! There is another guy on another team that does the same. At one point late last season, he bowled a 298 game and then immediately changed to a different ball to start the next game. He shot under 200 because he said he couldn't find the line that game...right after he shot 298. He had the line locked in and then for some reason decided to change balls and got totally confused.

Well I am sort of guilty of that. I get both balls out before we even start knowing in my head that I will be switching at some point. Maybe next week I will try just one ball all night and force moves until I am out of room. I'm also kind of guilty of having a 'favorite' ball that I am comfortable with and try to use it as much as I can and always reverting back to it when I can't figure anything else out. Right now that ball is the Uppercut, hence why when I struggled late last night I went back to it. Almost like a crutch or security blanket...lol

[Ryster]

Well I am sort of guilty of that. I get both balls out before we even start knowing in my head that I will be switching at some point. Maybe next week I will try just one ball all night and force moves until I am out of room. I'm also kind of guilty of having a 'favorite' ball that I am comfortable with and try to use it as much as I can and always reverting back to it when I can't figure anything else out. Right now that ball is the Uppercut, hence why when I struggled late last night I went back to it. Almost like a crutch or security blanket...lol

Having a favorite ball you are comfortable with is actually good. That is your benchmark ball. Everyone should have a benchmark ball, and that is the ball you should throw first in practice. If you get it to the pocket during the first 2-3 throws in practice, that is good and that is the ball you stay with. If your benchmark is not hooking enough in practice, you go stronger and see what happens. If the benchmark is over hooking you ball down and see if you get lined up. If none of them work, which is highly unlikely, then you choose the one that is giving you the most consistent and workable motion and go with it.

Once you choose, put the other balls back in the bag so they are not there as an instant crutch. I find that having them out of sight and back in the bag makes me less inclined to switch and work harder to make the right moves and good shots with my chosen ball.

I carry 4 balls with me to league (3 "performance" balls, and my plastic spare ball.) I will sometimes go several straight weeks using the same benchmark ball exclusively. Then, there will be a night I use a different ball, and a teammate will say "did you get a new ball?" No, it is just a different ball I rarely need to use. Just because I have it, doesn't mean I have to use it every week. I carry it with me just in case.

[boatman37]

Having a favorite ball you are comfortable with is actually good. That is your benchmark ball. Everyone should have a benchmark ball, and that is the ball you should throw first in practice. If you get it to the pocket during the first 2-3 throws in practice, that is good and that is the ball you stay with. If your benchmark is not hooking enough in practice, you go stronger and see what happens. If the benchmark is over hooking you ball down and see if you get lined up. If none of them work, which is highly unlikely, then you choose the one that is giving you the most consistent and workable motion and go with it.

Once you choose, put the other balls back in the bag so they are not there as an instant crutch. I find that having them out of sight and back in the bag makes me less inclined to switch and work harder to make the right moves and good shots with my chosen ball.

I carry 4 balls with me to league (3 "performance" balls, and my plastic spare ball.) I will sometimes go several straight weeks using the same benchmark ball exclusively. Then, there will be a night I use a different ball, and a teammate will say "did you get a new ball?" No, it is just a different ball I rarely need to use. Just because I have it, doesn't mean I have to use it every week. I carry it with me just in case.

Yeah I carry my Uppercut, Glam, Squatch and plastic ball in my main bag. I have another bag that I leave there that has my Conspiracy solid and Black Widow Gold in it but I haven't touched that bag in awhile. Then I have the Kingpin and Rhino here I leave at home. Thinking of putting the Rhino in the bag though and pulling the Squatch only because the Squatch is very similar to the other 2 in my bag. I haven't really used the Squatch since I got the Uppercut and it stays in the bag. The Rhino will give me an option if the lanes are really dry but that ball would likely hardly ever leave my bag.

Should have the new Ignitor next week to replace the cracked Glam so will see where that fits but should be close to the Glam. If need be I could take a little surface off it but will see.

I was actually pretty happy with what I had before the Uppercut and Glam but ended up lucking out and winning both of those balls. The Uppercut sat on the shelf in the shop for a couple of weeks before he drilled it because I wasn't sure what I was going to do with it because I really didn't need anything.

I'm feeling the most confident I have in awhile even though my scores haven'y been great. Now I am starting to see what does what I just need to figure out when to do it. Seems like before my options were more limited so I resorted to a ball change. Now I can play the center of the lane if I need to. Kind of like I have the tools now but I need to learn how to use them...lol

[Ryster]

Yeah I carry my Uppercut, Glam, Squatch and plastic ball in my main bag. I have another bag that I leave there that has my Conspiracy solid and Black Widow Gold in it but I haven't touched that bag in awhile. Then I have the Kingpin and Rhino here I leave at home. Thinking of putting the Rhino in the bag though and pulling the Squatch only because the Squatch is very similar to the other 2 in my bag. I haven't really used the Squatch since I got the Uppercut and it stays in the bag. The Rhino will give me an option if the lanes are really dry but that ball would likely hardly ever leave my bag.

Should have the new Ignitor next week to replace the cracked Glam so will see where that fits but should be close to the Glam. If need be I could take a little surface off it but will see.

I was actually pretty happy with what I had before the Uppercut and Glam but ended up lucking out and winning both of those balls. The Uppercut sat on the shelf in the shop for a couple of weeks before he drilled it because I wasn't sure what I was going to do with it because I really didn't need anything.

I'm feeling the most confident I have in awhile even though my scores haven'y been great. Now I am starting to see what does what I just need to figure out when to do it. Seems like before my options were more limited so I resorted to a ball change. Now I can play the center of the lane if I need to. Kind of like I have the tools now but I need to learn how to use them...lol

The Igniter is a little lower RG and a little lower differential than the Glam, so it most likely will not flip quite as hard. The Igniter also doesn't have Dynamicore like the Glam, but not convinced of the total effectiveness of that kind of thing anyway. I would guess the Igniter will be just different enough to notice and probably more usable overall.

[RobLV1]

Boatman: One thing that I see as a theme throughout your posts is a belief that one week on one pair of lanes has anything at all to do with another week on another pair. They don't! At one point you mentioned balling down. Do you always ball down, or are there times when you have to ball up. I know I do. The more that you can get the idea that there is a formula out of your head, the faster you will improve.The very first article that I wrote for BTM way back in 2007 talked about the dangers of preconceptions in bowling. The only correct preconception before you start bowling is having no preconception at all.

[boatman37]

Boatman: One thing that I see as a theme throughout your posts is a belief that one week on one pair of lanes has anything at all to do with another week on another pair. They don't! At one point you mentioned balling down. Do you always ball down, or are there times when you have to ball up. I know I do. The more that you can get the idea that there is a formula out of your head, the faster you will improve.The very first article that I wrote for BTM way back in 2007 talked about the dangers of preconceptions in bowling. The only correct preconception before you start bowling is having no preconception at all.

And I think that has been part of my problem. I go in 'thinking' I need to start with A then go to B, etc. I have went in with a plan to start with one ball then switch to this ball, then to my 3rd ball if I need to. But now with having the ability to change hand positions it now has got to where I have too many decisions, which is why I started this thread. And now reading this starting to see that maybe I am changing balls too much instead of working with what I have. But I don't usually see much change from week to week in lane conditions. Maybe because I had been on the far outside where there was always next to no oil to start with or maybe because I'm just not seeing it for some reason. I'm curious if I start to see it or notice it more now that I'm playing more inside than I had? If you remember back several months I tried to avoid getting inside the 2nd arrow because I was inconsistent in there? Seems I have that under control now and I'm much more comfortable there and getting more comfortable even at the 15 board and can hit it pretty consistently now. Probably due to confidence and lower speed than anything else.

As far as balling up? Not on purpose. And I say that because last night I was struggling so decided to go back to the stronger Uppercut that I started the night with. Not because I thought I needed a stronger ball but because my other one wasn't getting the job done and my best games have been with the Uppercut so it was more of a comfort thing. And it was working from around the 13 board (that was the furthest I got in all night) but I had one good shot then started missing my mark. And since it was such a tight game I was trying to be conservative and get what I could. We lost that game by 10 but won total by 5 so it was a tight night. Had I done that earlier in the night it might have been a different story.

But I feel I have made more strides in the last 2 months than I have in the last 2 years. Maybe that COVID break did me some good as I was able to shake off some bad habits like the higher speeds and stubborness to try something outside my comfort zone. This was the first break I had since my return almost 3 years ago since I had been bowling summer leagues too.

I think my next thing is to pick a ball in warm-ups that I am happy with and stick with it now that I have the ability (I think) to adjust to it. Maybe when my wife gets her new ball next week we will go get some practice in. She works with a girl that is a certified coach through Dick Ritger and she has been talking to her about her scores each week so maybe we can get her to go with us.

[RobLV1]

Unless you have a whole lot of hand, balling up is a good option when you have to move so far inside that you have trouble getting it back. I actually ball up more than down.

[boatman37]

Unless you have a whole lot of hand, balling up is a good option when you have to move so far inside that you have trouble getting it back. I actually ball up more than down.

No I don't have a whole lot, just more than I had before. That is kind of what I did last night. Went back to the stronger ball and moved inside. Not really on purpose as much as it was that my other ball wasn't working either but it's good that I got to see that balling up might work if I need it. Before my adjustments didn't usually match up with what was talked about in here so I think I was a little confused. Now I am seeing the scenarios play out so it makes more sense. Whatever it is I feel more confident about it now. I just need to match up what I need to do with when I need to do it. I'll get there. That will be my focus this year.

[boatman37]

Pre-bowled today and picked up my new Igniter replacement for the cracked Glam. Tried sticking with that ball the first 2 games but kept leaving 7 pins. Tried adjusting but not any better. Think I need to hit it with a 3000. Switched to the Uppercut late in game 2 and had to move in. Tried from the 7 board to the 15 board with it but left splits. Moved back outside to the 7 board and flattened my hand and it was better but I think the biggest problem today was me. My wife was using her new ball for the first time and I just wasn't very focused. Should get a better read next league night. I rolled 181, 178, and 151

EDIT: just looked at my stats and had only left 1 7 pin the first 6 games this season. Today I left 7 of them...ugh. So far I'm 5/8 on the conversions. Not bad but need to get better

[Aslan]

So my question is this...do you guys typically change hand positions as part of transition adjustment or do you keep the same hand position and just move your line and/or ball down?

Ideally?

IDEALLY...I'd never have to move OR ball down. My line would stay the same all night and shoot a 900. Granted, that'll never happen.

Slightly less than ideal?

It would be sort of a best case scenario if I can make a minimal number of moves laterally to the left as the oil transitions. If I can avoid a ball change, that would be very much ideal. Just chase the oil a little...essentially just chew up my own line a little and move left to compensate.

Normally?

Normally...my night involves a series of moves to the left as well as vertical targeting changes. Some people prefer to move vertically on the approach to vertical targeting changes...but it's kinda the same thing. Once I move to the left and hit weak (a flat 10-pin or a 2-pin combination or a 5-pin combination or an 8-pin combination or I can clearly see that it's exiting to the right of center out the back of the pin deck)...then I know it's time to ball down...OR, if there's a suspicion of 'carry down' (it's later in the match, someone is using urethane, etc...) I may go to my skid/flip ball.

Do I ever change other things?

Approach Speed/Steps: No. Pros do this...but for most amateurs, trying to go from a 4-step to a 5-step or a 3-step...without significant practice...is a recipe for horrible timing and thus horrible scoring.

Axis Rotation (revs): No. Usually, trying to get "more revs" usually results in trying too hard. Most coaching I've gotten has taught me that less is more. A relaxed shot, in time, will get you more revs than trying to do a Mark Roth impersonation when you're not Mark Roth.

Axis Tilt (hand position): No/sometimes. I usually only do this if I'm trying to pick up a tricky spare. I used a change in hand position last night to pick up a 9-10 baby split because I knew I needed less axis tilt. My only reason for not using this more is that most coaching I've gotten has taught me that you are limited to a certain number of things you can think of on the approach. 3 things...4 things...5 things...2 things...whatever the case may be. Hand position is just outside the maximum number of things I can think of right now. Someday...maybe.

Alternate Lines*: I wish. I use a progression/arsenal system. So, my 4 bowling balls are designed to work in a given area for my current game...with minimal adjustments. To adopt a "B Game" where suddenly I'm playing 1980s style up the 2-board...I'd need some different equipment. Same with adopting a "C-Game" and trying to loft the left gutter....I'd need some different equipment. I'd also need a 1st floor condo because carrying 2 additional roller bags up and down the stairs to leagues would kill me. AND, I'd need more practice time to figure out which line to choose each night. Pros can play anywhere because they play sport patterns that often require you to find the best line. Sometimes thats up the 2-board...sometimes thats lofting the left gutter...and they have plenty of practice time and plenty of equipment to figure all that out ahead of time.

* The only time you should EVER need different lines in a standard THS league 3-game league...is if the center screwed up the oiling and either didn't oil pre-league or the oiling machine broke down. Or, the other team played entirely with urethane or something crazy like that....or you're in a sport/challenge league. If you're in a sport/challenge league...then, yes, I'd bring more equipment with me...do some research on the patterns ahead of time...and consider alternate lines.

[boatman37]

Ok. Tried something different today. Rob would be proud...lol. Got way outside my comfort one. I liked the reaction but need to work on it and have a few questions because I have never done this before.

Remember I'm a lefty. So late in game 1 and early in game 2 using the Uppercut I stood with my right foot in line with the right side gutter lip (about board 40). Targeted out past the 20 board (about the 17 board if that is what it would be called) and breakpoint was about the 12 board. Have never been able to hook the lane that much before. Granted my speed was lower than usual. When I was hooking the lane I was around 14.5-15.0 at the pins where lately I'm usually about 15.5. I still need to work on my consistency with it. Most of the shots didn't get out far enough and hit Brooklyn. A couple were too far out and didn't make it back to the head pin. A couple were accurate and the results were nice.

So my question is when would you try this line? Early on? After nothing else works? If you start the night there and it dries up then what? Go back to a more direct line? I don't plan to use this at this point unless nothing else is working but knowing I can do it is nice.

Here are my pre-bowl scores today:
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[RobLV1]

You're right, I'm proud of you! Two things: it's natural to slow down your shot a little when moving that far inside, and you use it when nothing else works. Nice job!

[boatman37]

Sounds good. I stuck with the Uppercut until about the 7th frame of game 2 then switched to the Igniter and stayed with it the rest of the way. 4th frame of game 3 is when the insert flew out of my fingertip. Got a strike on that ball then had the PSO re-glue it but then next shot it was in my head and I was worried about it coming out again and tugged that shot, leaving the 5 pin. Every ball with the Igniter was up the 10 board using a more direct line.

[J Anderson]

Ok. Tried something different today. Rob would be proud...lol. Got way outside my comfort one. I liked the reaction but need to work on it and have a few questions because I have never done this before.

So my question is when would you try this line? Early on? After nothing else works? If you start the night there and it dries up then what? Go back to a more direct line? I don't plan to use this at this point unless nothing else is working but knowing I can do it is nice.

The short answer you try it when you need it. You may have noticed there are times when if you play your favorite line perfectly you get a strike, but the least little deviation yields a split or a washout. I suspect that even Earl Anthony, playing when accuracy and consistency were more highly valued than today, still looked for a lined that gave him a bit of miss room. When you find a line that let’s you miss a bit right or left and still carry almost as well hitting it just right your swing will loosen up and you will deliver better shots.
You generally don’t want to start off way inside. When that breaks down and you’ve run out of room to keep moving right, you have no choice except to go back out side. But now if you tug one a bit, instead of the nice house pattern shim, the ball hits a nice dry patch, reads early and winds up the next town over. You’re back to having to throw it perfect which makes you tense up and even more prone to pulling it.

[boatman37]

The short answer you try it when you need it. You may have noticed there are times when if you play your favorite line perfectly you get a strike, but the least little deviation yields a split or a washout. I suspect that even Earl Anthony, playing when accuracy and consistency were more highly valued than today, still looked for a lined that gave him a bit of miss room. When you find a line that let’s you miss a bit right or left and still carry almost as well hitting it just right your swing will loosen up and you will deliver better shots.
You generally don’t want to start off way inside. When that breaks down and you’ve run out of room to keep moving right, you have no choice except to go back out side. But now if you tug one a bit, instead of the nice house pattern shim, the ball hits a nice dry patch, reads early and winds up the next town over. You’re back to having to throw it perfect which makes you tense up and even more prone to pulling it.

lol. Yeah I like when I find that line with some miss room. Yesterday it started out pretty good but then left a few pocket 7's. Had to be right on to get the carry. That's when I decided to test the far right side just to see if it would come back. I had tried it last year and the ball went straight to the 4-7 but last year I had much less rotation and quite a bit more speed.

[boatman37]

Question related to hooking the lane and speed. My speed is quite a bit slower by about 1-1.5 MPH when I try this line. I know it was said that speed will naturally be slower but if I do pick up speed will the ball hook more? Not planning to use this line tomorrow but will if I need to. Will try it in warm-ups just to get the feel of it.

We are in a 3 way tie for 2nd now and bowl one of the higher average teams tomorrow but they are struggling and are in about 7th or so.

[J Anderson]

Question related to hooking the lane and speed. My speed is quite a bit slower by about 1-1.5 MPH when I try this line. I know it was said that speed will naturally be slower but if I do pick up speed will the ball hook more? Not planning to use this line tomorrow but will if I need to. Will try it in warm-ups just to get the feel of it.

We are in a 3 way tie for 2nd now and bowl one of the higher average teams tomorrow but they are struggling and are in about 7th or so.

If some how you throw it with more speed on this inside line it will take longer for the ball to react to the friction, so it will hook later. It will still hook the same amount but since it went farther on the initial trajectory it will most likely miss the pocket.

[boatman37]

If some how you throw it with more speed on this inside line it will take longer for the ball to react to the friction, so it will hook later. It will still hook the same amount but since it went farther on the initial trajectory it will most likely miss the pocket.

That was my thinking. I think just a little practice and getting comfortable with it is all I need. Even with the lower speed it still works but I'm still not consistent at hitting the pocket with it. Seems I hit the pocket about 25% of the time in the short amount of time I have done it. I'd say I have a total of maybe 10-15 shots trying this so still a ways to go.

I had been running up the 7 board about 80% of my shots throughout the night but last week I'm not sure if I went out there at all so definitely getting more comfortable outside of my comfort zone...lol

[boatman37]

Tried it a few times tonight and couldn't get it to come back. Tried it with the Conspiracy too and same result. In the end I didn't need to use that line anyway but game 1 I struggle to find the line. Games 2 and 3 were good but played a straighter line