Pyramid Phoenix Ball Revivor

[Aslan]

I'm just sayin...it sure looks a LOT like Aslan's prototype. I don't remember getting a royalty check or anything.

http://www.bowlingboards.com/threads/17339-Aslan-s-Ball-Dehydrator-(with-pics)

C'mon Pyramid! Ya gonna do me like that! You coulda bought me off cheap! A couple free balls...an employee discount...probably even a cooler signature line in the forum. NOT cool. :cool:

[Ryster]

All of the personal ball ovens are basically the same concept. Innovative, NuBall, Pyramid, etc. They started showing up at least 7-8 years ago and all have a similar shape and design. I am sure after NuBall started producing and selling their unit back in early 2013, they were less than pleased when people starting using dehydrators to basically make one at home.

[bowl1820]

Actually all the companies copied my idea, from about 8-9 years ago. I had posted in another forum a picture of the idea I had of using a old magic chef dehydrator with a 5 gallon bucket on it that I used to de oil a ball. There was no other one ever posted before that or even mentioned that I could find at the time.

[Timmyb]

All of the personal ball ovens are basically the same concept. Innovative, NuBall, Pyramid, etc. They started showing up at least 7-8 years ago and all have a similar shape and design. I am sure after NuBall started producing and selling their unit back in early 2013, they were less than pleased when people starting using dehydrators to basically make one at home.

I did exactly this myself. All the NuBall unit is made of is a Nesco dehydrator head with 8 racks fused together. I built the whole thing, with a temp probe, for about $90. eBay is your friend....

[Aslan]

So, what I'm hearing is...I'm getting a discount or any type of perks or what not??

Dang it. Oh well, can't fault a fella for tryin.

I gotta say, I'm not too happy with the Aslan 1000 Ball Dehydrator. I don't see much oil come off the ball with it. Granted, I dehydrate the balls routinely...versus back in the day when I'd do it infrequently. And, I use a lot more pearls than solids...a lot more polished stuff than matte stuff...which I think also inhibits oil absorption. But it's gotten to the point where I almost feel like the dehydrator step is kind of a waste of time. I do it every time I touch up the surface on my balls...which I do regularly (every 6 games or so).

[bowl1820]

So, what I'm hearing is...I'm getting a discount or any type of perks or what not??

Dang it. Oh well, can't fault a fella for tryin.

I gotta say, I'm not too happy with the Aslan 1000 Ball Dehydrator. I don't see much oil come off the ball with it. Granted, I dehydrate the balls routinely...versus back in the day when I'd do it infrequently. And, I use a lot more pearls than solids...a lot more polished stuff than matte stuff...which I think also inhibits oil absorption. But it's gotten to the point where I almost feel like the dehydrator step is kind of a waste of time. I do it every time I touch up the surface on my balls...which I do regularly (every 6 games or so).

If your cleaning the ball regularly (such as after each series) and sanding & deoiling every 6 games, regardless of surface texture your not going to see much of anything come out of the ball if at all. Unless (possibly) you were bowling on some of the heaviest oil conditions, Deoiling that often (every 6 games) is a waste of time.

[Ryster]

I agree. I simply clean my stuff after every series before packing up to leave the center. In the summer, my stuff never "bleeds oil" even after sitting in the hot car during the day while I am at work. Other people I bowl with (who admit to never cleaning their bowling balls) go to get their stuff out of their bags, and it is literally "bleeding oil" and they have to wipe everything down.

[Aslan]

If your cleaning the ball regularly (such as after each series) and sanding & deoiling every 6 games, regardless of surface texture your not going to see much of anything come out of the ball if at all. Unless (possibly) you were bowling on some of the heaviest oil conditions, Deoiling that often (every 6 games) is a waste of time.

Thats what I figured. I used to get oil off my bowling balls..especially my Hammer Rhythm...and I was good about wiping it down between shots and after bowling and such. But that was bowling on primarily wood lanes, where there was more oil volume...and I wasn't doing any surface management at all. So, when I'd toss those balls in some hot, soapy water in the bath tub every 3-4 months...you'd get some results.

Now I use a Simple Green/Isopropyl Alcohol solution after bowling to wipe down each ball. I resurface...usually down to as low as 180-1000 depending on what final level I'm trying to achieve...every 6 games or so. And before resurfacing, I have been sticking the balls in the Aslan 1000 for 30 minutes to 2 hours (depending on if I forget they are in there) and then letting them cool down. Never any oil coming out.

I thought it was not throwing any sanded solids that was the reason I wasn't seeing anything. My Hammer Rhythm (solid overstock) was sanded to 1000 (by hand) and I never had it polished or used compound on it or anything. It definitely had the most oil come out. My 900 Global Bullet Train also had some oil come out. It was a hybrid overstock, sanded to 500 (by hand) with no compound nor polish. The Columbia 300 Encounter I used back then the I sanded to 1000 (by hand) and didn't use polish or compound on...that one didn't really have much oil come out of it...I figured because it was a pearl coverstock.

If I remember correctly, the micro pores in the solid covers are larger and more able to to draw in that oil and more able to release it. The Pearls it's harder to get that oil in and out. I thought I saw that in a video somewhere. When you add a compound, and especially a polish, you are essentially clogging those pores...thus even less oil is getting in there. So, my current "progression system" calls for at least one polished ball (Ball #3)...usually 2 (and Ball #4). Those are usually both Pearl covers (#3 always is). Currently, my first two balls are hybrids...and ball #2 I use Royal Compound on. Ball #1 is sanded to 2000-3000 and thus far that hybrid cover sanded to 2000-3000 hasn't really picked up much oil when maintained as often as I maintain it.

I haven't thrown a solid cover ball since I retired my Lethal Revolver and Dark Encounter back in 2016. And, I polished both of those. The last time I threw a solid with a matte surface was the Hammer Rhythm back in 2014-2015 and that was the only time I ever did. I have an Optimus Solid ready to go for my next arsenal...was supposed to be debuted this season...but Covid-19 and finances had to delay Arsenal #6 until this summer or 2021-2022. And I'm hoping to keep that one a matte surface to allow me to open up the lanes a little more.

Maybe, moving forward, I can skip the Aslan 1000 step...maybe try it once per month going forward...see if I notice a difference.