Women's Nationals...

[Phonetek]

Day one hosting this tournament and ask loving it. Met several of the greats already. Very impressive to watch to say the least.

You wanna know how to throw 20mph and destroy pins or throw a buzz saw down the lane at 600+ rpms? Watch the men.

You wanna know how to bowl using the fundamentals to be awesome because you pretty much aren't capable of doing what the men do by using brute strength?
Watch the ladies! They know their stuff.

I get to do this for the next 79 days and see over 13 thousand ladies ending with the queens. This is gonna be a blast

[Ryster]

The women bowlers are always the bowlers to watch from a technical perspective. There are also women that can turn the ball just as well as the men.

It would be fun to watch. I was just looking at last year's results and it looks like some of the women, for example CDB, bowl in the event several times with several different partners of equal skill and fame.

The Queens event next month will really be the one to watch.

[boomer]

Yeah - if I want to see HOW to bowl, I watch the women. Plus, they're definitely easier on the eyes than the guys, LOL.


I used to scorekeep and run brackets for California State Women's - and the squads that had the lady pros was SO much fun, although they were generally all pretty enjoyable!

[Phonetek]

One of the most fascinating women I met was Pat Turner. She going in the Hall of Fame and this is her 50th Women's National. I forget how many titles she holds. She still throws the ball beautifully and has a lot left in her.

A super sweet gal and a hell of a bowler. An honor to meet her and get to hang out and talk to her for a while. I'm really appreciating all this event has to offer. A lot of work to prepare for this event and keep it running smooth but it's totally worth it to be able to meet people like this and watch them do what they do.

[boatman37]

Not to bash anyones bowling style but I see 2 handers that crank the ball and within 2 years having higher averages than 1 handers that have been bowling for 5 years. The speed and revs they get overcomes alot of the problems the traditional bowlers face so yeah, lower rev/speed bowlers typically have to be better bowlers to keep up. I would imagine that trickles down to the one hander, hi revvers (EJ, Butruff) when compared to the women. And not taking away from EJ or Butruff as they are very good bowlers but for the lower rev/speed bowlers to bowl with them they need to be that much better from a technical perspective

[Phonetek]

For what it's worth I only saw enough ladies bowling two handed during the ITC/ISC collegiate tournament to count on one hand. It's definite more of a guy thing

[Phonetek]

Hmmm... I'm guessing by the lack of discussion with this topic that the women bowlers don't get too many of you excited bowling wise? I certainly am impressed as most of them can mop the floor with every one of us. LOL

[Ryster]

I much prefer watching the PWBA than the PBA, no dispute about that. The women are just more technically polished than the men. Unfortunately the PWBA doesn't broadcast as many events on television as they used to, and I really don't want to purchase a BowlTV subscription to be able to watch the whole season. Maybe if they eventually get an app for Roku or something that would let me watch BowlTV on my TV I would subscribe, but until then I will just watch what they show on CBS Sports Network.

I have been to a few PWBA events in person. It was fun. I have also bowled with a few PWBA national players and they were all very nice. They all absolutely obliterated the house shot and could strike at will. Although, I don't know that I could stand around all day and watch them...maybe an hour or two and then I would be out of there.

[classygranny]

My understanding is this season the PWBA will have 7 tourneys broadcast on CBS Sports. A month ago, my wonderful husband revamped our cable and now we no longer get CBS Sports. I am NOT a happy camper.

[boatman37]

I watch whatever bowling is on TV. Heck, I'm even watching that show based on Smallwood...lol

[Ryster]

That is correct. 7 PWBA broadcasts on CBS Sports Network, 4 on BowlTV.

How We Roll [the Smallwood inspired show] is kind of an embarrassment. I DVR the episodes and then watch them when I have a few minutes so I can fast forward through commercials. Haven't watched last week's yet. It just isn't very funny overall. The guy playing Tom just has a very odd delivery of punchlines. The funniest thing they have done so far was the running joke about baby carrots a couple of episodes ago. That was very Seinfeld-esque and actually funny. Says a lot when a show inspired by a professional bowler has one of their funniest moments from a joke about baby carrots. The actual bowling related content is just so cringe.

[Phonetek]

Unless they do everything like a real bowler expects it's going to be cringe. For the casual bowler it may be enough to get them more interested.

No matter what the show is, if it's a cop show (not reality tv) a cop is going to watch it and say "That's fake, that would never happen." A doctor's show "You can't use that medicine or that dose to cure that." It's just gotta be believable enough to the lament.

We've all been around bowling for eons so our expectations for realism are way higher, too high. So barring him bowling in an actual environment in an actual match and everything being real as we know it, we are going to be disappointed and nitpick it to death.

Mind you, I haven't watched it yet. If I do I'll have to go into it without expectations and try to enjoy it for what it is. I deal with people regarding Star Trek all the time. People constantly rant how technically"this is impossible" and "that's not cannon with the story" Blah blah blah, shut up and either enjoy it for the entertainment and escape from reality that it is or don't watch. LOL
As far as Smallwood goes, it's a sitcom not a bowling documentary or instructional video. Try to enjoy it for what it is. If it sucks and you can't enjoy it then move on. Hopefully it will help bowling more than hurt it.

[Ryster]

Unless they do everything like a real bowler expects it's going to be cringe. For the casual bowler it may be enough to get them more interested.

No matter what the show is, if it's a cop show (not reality tv) a cop is going to watch it and say "That's fake, that would never happen." A doctor's show "You can't use that medicine or that dose to cure that." It's just gotta be believable enough to the lament.

We've all been around bowling for eons so our expectations for realism are way higher, too high. So barring him bowling in an actual environment in an actual match and everything being real as we know it, we are going to be disappointed and nitpick it to death.

Mind you, I haven't watched it yet. If I do I'll have to go into it without expectations and try to enjoy it for what it is. I deal with people regarding Star Trek all the time. People constantly rant how technically"this is impossible" and "that's not cannon with the story" Blah blah blah, shut up and either enjoy it for the entertainment and escape from reality that it is or don't watch. LOL
As far as Smallwood goes, it's a sitcom not a bowling documentary or instructional video. Try to enjoy it for what it is. If it sucks and you can't enjoy it then move on. Hopefully it will help bowling more than hurt it.

Considering they had Robert Smith as a consultant for the show, I expected a little better from a bowling content perspective.

They are leaning heavily on the "inspired by" aspect of the show. The characters have the same names, and the base story (laid off autoworker becomes pro bowler) is the same, however that is about it. Heck, the star of the show and Tom Smallwood didn't actually meet each other until just a few weeks ago...and they met virtually LOL. So the guy playing Tom portrayed him without ever having met him. That's show business, I suppose.

I get that it is a sitcom, and I expect a sitcom to be funny. This show has very few laughs. I am still watching it in an attempt to support any kind of bowling related content, as I feel that is the most important thing.