Coming soon from Roto-Grip the "Mutant Cell"

[JaxBowlingGuy]

Here is the latest release from Roto-Grip... Looks to be a good ball for some oil... Color looks ehhh ugly to say the least in my opinion.

[Strike Domination]

Definitely an ugly ball from the picture. Time will tell come the actual release.

[Stormed1]

Who cares what it looks like as long as it works.

[StormGirl712]

Totally took this from Greg and Donna. Lol there won't be anywhere in Jacksonville to throw that ball. Well...maybe for me I could but I don't need a new ball at the moment.

[JaxBowlingGuy]

i dont see it being any more aggressive than the virtual gravity..

[StormGirl712]

ehh. not according to greg and donna. idk, we'll see when it comes out. then again, my virtual doesnt do much anyways. haha

[dougb]

My guess is the ball will be a bit stronger OOB given that the cover is 2000 abralon (vs. 4000 abralon on the VG). But the VG is a lot easier on the eyes!

[JaxBowlingGuy]

My guess is the ball will be a bit stronger OOB given that the cover is 2000 abralon (vs. 4000 abralon on the VG). But the VG is a lot easier on the eyes!

I have to disagree.. yes the MC has a lower oob surface.. but look at the ball specs itself.. I compared the 15lb balls between the VG and MC..

Virtual Gravity-
RG- 2.48
Diff- .052

Mutant Cell-
RG- 2.54
Diff- .047

the virtual gravity is a faster reving ball with the lower RG and has a greater flair potential with the higher Diff. With more flair comes more reaction.

I havent looked at the details on the attitude shift but i think this ball will closely mirror that one... that is also 2000 grit ball.

[dougb]

I have to disagree.. yes the MC has a lower oob surface.. but look at the ball specs itself.. I compared the 15lb balls between the VG and MC..

Virtual Gravity-
RG- 2.48
Diff- .052

Mutant Cell-
RG- 2.54
Diff- .047

the virtual gravity is a faster reving ball with the lower RG and has a greater flair potential with the higher Diff. With more flair comes more reaction.

I havent looked at the details on the attitude shift but i think this ball will closely mirror that one... that is also 2000 grit ball.

Good point on the RG and Diff. For some reason when I looked it up I thought they were the same... must've made a mistake!

Given those numbers I agree the VG will be stronger.

[JaxBowlingGuy]

Good point on the RG and Diff. For some reason when I looked it up I thought they were the same... must've made a mistake!

Given those numbers I agree the VG will be stronger.

Now the MC may get roll a little sooner with the lower surface, but I just think it wont have as much as the VG. :-)

[BladedBANDITOZ]

color looks good.... hopefully it gets the same job done as the rest of the cell line

[pvellenga]

While the Rg and Diff. are important to a bowling balls performance the coverstock and the surface of the coverstock are the most important factors in bowling ball reaction. Compare the coverstock to a good pair of tires and the core is the engine. It does not matter if you have a super powerful engine if your tires are bald and just spin, and also if you have huge super tires but a weak engine that doesnt work either. Not the mention the USBC changed the maximum differential to a max of .047 I believe and I am sure that Rotogrip is getting their equipment in line with this new ruling. Also if the new coverstock is quite strong they may have had to tame down the core to "match" the coverstock better. So it is difficult to conclude how a ball is going to react until you actually put some holes in it and throw it down the lane. Just take a look at all of the balls in the industry that have similiar core specs are behave totally different because of coverstock formulation. For example, the Storm VG and the Storm VE have the same exact core specs but because of the coverstock difference these two balls are TOTALLY different in reaction. I will surely be buying the Mutant cell when it is released. This line of balls have been nothing short of excellent.

[JaxBowlingGuy]

To compare the vg and ve is like comparing apples to oranges... The ve is part pearl so the ball would have a different reaction.. I was comparing 2 solids in the vg and the MC... The mutant cell has the solid version of the rogue cell cover (hybrid).. If you compare the rougue cell and the VE you will get a better idea... Since the covers on the MC and VG are the solids of these 2 balls... I would not say that the rogue cell is more aggressive than the VE.. Close but not more.. Also its hard to say one ball is more or less aggressive based off cover because all of that can be altered.. You can't alter a core.. I based my opinion that the mutant cell will be less aggressive than the virtual gravity for the following... Weaker core specs.. And comparing the hybrid"sisters" which both use the same cover as the solid counterpart...

[JaxBowlingGuy]

After looking.. it also looks as if the core on the Mutant Cell is slightly weaker than the Rogue Cell core

[Strike Domination]

I thought the Rogue Cell was 2 parts solid while the VE is 2 parts pearl, so I would think the Rogue is stronger.

[JaxBowlingGuy]

A solid doent really make a ball stronger... Its the cover itself.. That was the point that I was trying to make that virtual line has a more aggressive cover than the cell line... It would just be better to compare the VE and tje RC, more so than the MC and VE..

[Strike Domination]

I still say the Rogue is stronger than the VE, I even think the Rogue is almost the same as the VG. I don't really think R2X is much stronger than Cytoplasmic.

[Stormed1]

I have a couple of guys that i drill for that have both the Virtuak Energy and a Rouge with identicle layouts. Rouge is definatly stronger in that it will handle higher volumes of oil due both to cover and the ball reading the lane sooner. Virtual Gravity is more angular off the spot than the Rogue. Reports from the WSOB on nthe mutant was it read the midlane more than the original Cell with a stronger backend than the original. The new tweaked cover is "stronger"

[JaxBowlingGuy]

I have a couple of guys that i drill for that have both the Virtuak Energy and a Rouge with identicle layouts. Rouge is definatly stronger in that it will handle higher volumes of oil due both to cover and the ball reading the lane sooner. Virtual Gravity is more angular off the spot than the Rogue. Reports from the WSOB on nthe mutant was it read the midlane more than the original Cell with a stronger backend than the original. The new tweaked cover is "stronger"

the core looks to be slightly less aggressive than the Cell's... Stormed, What do you think will be more aggressive, the Virtual Gravity or the Mutant Cell???

[Strike Domination]

My prediction.. pretty similar, maybe the Mutant Cell a bit stronger.

[Stormed1]

The primary deciding factor is still coverstock Many times a manufacturer will tweak the core for a reaction shape. I think you will find the VG to be longer and flippier where the Mutant will be earlier, smoother and handle a higher volume of oiilKeep in mind that the ability to handle oil has nothing to do with a ball going sideways on yhe back end. Reading the oil sooner and making a controlled and predictable move to the pocket is far more important on heavier volumes

[JaxBowlingGuy]

now you are talking about the solid virtual gravity and not the hybrid virtual energy correct???

[Stormed1]

yes the virtual gravity

[Strike Domination]

Reading the oil sooner and making a controlled and predictable move to the pocket is far more important on heavier volumes

Couldn't agree more. I've had times where a ball is just too strong off the breakpoint and over/under because the ball is not strong enough in the oil.

[JaxBowlingGuy]

Here is a american video of the mutant cell

They compare the Rogue Cell and the Mutant cell.. He is playing 20-5 with the Mutant cell and 15-5ish with the Rogue Cell.

Mutant Cell Video (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D2eRfz6etSw)

[Strike Domination]

Thanks Robert, a decent video to go by as far as what the ball can do.

[123seeyah]

this is how ugly the Mutant Cell looks like.. check out jeff carter's arsenal line of Roto Grip

http://jeffcarterbowling.com/Arsenal2.html


but how it rolls is wicked sick.. very sharp breakpoint

[JaxBowlingGuy]

ok now that we have videos, and even videos of the same people throwing both the Virtual Gravity and Mutant Cell I would like to bring up again the reaction difference. I still think the VG is more aggressive.. The videos that I am comparing are below.. Yes, the layouts are not the same but you can get a idea of the balls reaction.. you know since they are trying to sell the ball they are going to want to try to get as much hook as possible.. Also looking at the "Perfect Scale" on bowlingball.com it has the VG as the slight advantage 217.5 to 219.5. That is a standard hook potential they use for all of the balls on there..

When you look at the links below click the video tab to see the vids.. Check out the angle difference and how much further left they are playing with the VG..

dont get me wrong, I'll have a Mutant Cell since I am prety much getting it free.. I want something that will hook like the VG but slightly sooner and i dont like playing with layouts too much.

Mutant Cell (http://www.bowlingball.com/roto-grip-mutant-cell-bowling-ball.html)

Virtual Gravity (http://www.bowlingball.com/storm-virtual-gravity-bowling-ball.html?topseller=2)

[JaxBowlingGuy]

i actually just noticed that they are releasing the Mutant Cell almost a year to the day after the Virtual Gravity

[Strike Domination]

It's actually not as ugly as I thought it would be. A decent looking ball actually.

[JaxBowlingGuy]

It's actually not as ugly as I thought it would be. A decent looking ball actually.

I agree.. The pictures make it look alot worse