2 handed vs 1 handed?

[martin]

i have been practising using the 2-handed release for the past couple of months and have gotten quite good with it.. and also, since 2-3 months ago, my center has changed from a 40feet oil to about 45 feet oil.. since then, when i use the 1-handed release, my Anaconda doesn't hook that much and i'm struggling to get good scores (150-160 avg before it eventually shoots back up to my usual 170-180 avg when the lanes dry up) but when i use the 2-handed release, somehow i get a good hook and get the 170-180 avg from the 1st game on..

so my question is, does everybody here think i should use the 2-handed release when the lanes have just been oiled?

[resstealth]

If you keep flopping between styles you will never get good. You're going to get more hook 2 handed because you generate more revs. Pick the style you like and stick with it.

[The Mayor]

I agree with resstealth. If 2-handed works well, stick with it.

[martin]

thx 4 the advice.. maybe i'll just go with the 2-handed.. somehow i prefer that.. i like having high revs (struggle to do that with the 1-handed).. :D

[chrono00]

I bowled a game 2 handed in practice the other day and shot 140. not too bad for me, as my normal average is in the mid 140's right now lol

[martin]

I bowled a game 2 handed in practice the other day and shot 140. not too bad for me, as my normal average is in the mid 140's right now lol

just wondering.. did u use the 2 handed for spares? i use 1 handed for spares usually..

[chrono00]

just wondering.. did u use the 2 handed for spares? i use 1 handed for spares usually..

if i missed the headpin and left up multiple or something...yea I would still throw two handed.

but there were 2 or 3 single pin spares i had. those I threw one handed, cause I could use the practice for league, and I have no idea how to shoot say a 10 pin two handed.

which does lead to a funny story. me and the other guy on my team throw at least one 2 handed shot during warmups. 2nd game of the night, somewhere in the middle frames, bury the pocket for a 7-10. I was so annoyed as soon as my ball came back I threw it two handed towards the right side and picked up the 10. I barely even looked, just threw it. it was more a blind fit of rage than anything

[martin]

haha.. i usually use 1 handed for spares.. coz i dunno where to aim when throwing 2 handed..

[resstealth]

I stick with two handed for spares. For the 10 pin, i let the ball come straight off my hand, pick up a good percentage of them.

[J Anderson]

It seems to me that if two-handers are allowed to switch back and forth between two hands and one hand, we ambidextrous should be able to switch back and forth at will as well.

[striker12]

well 2 handed bowlers is not much different then 1 handed bowling cause only 1 hnd gose in the ball there other hand thats not in the ball just helps them get abit more speed and revs and accuracy, ik this cause im able to bowl 2 handed and i do it ocne and awhile when ever i go and practice but im not that good at it where i can always do it.

i would ahve to practice for about a year to beable to do it everyday and also get my arm fixed

[billf]

Striker, when I bowl 2 handed, it's nothing like when I bowl 1 handed. The whole angle of your body is turned/twisted more sideways. Not too sure how you can do both with the same form.

John, I totally agree. I've had people complain in summer league (non-sanctioned) about me bowling both ways. I really want to do a doubles tournament with myself as my partner!

[resstealth]

It seems to me that if two-handers are allowed to switch back and forth between two hands and one hand, we ambidextrous should be able to switch back and forth at will as well.

Its different because if you switch from left to right handed, not only does it give you a big advantage on single pin spares, it allows you to play both sides of the lane.

[MICHAEL]

I bowl at two alleys here in Kansas City, and I have yet to see on league a two handed bowler? If there are any of you out there reading this post, do you
mind me asking your average? In general do most two handed (Non Pro) bowlers have higher averages, or is it just the few like that guy from Australia Belmo!

[Etrain]

if i missed the headpin and left up multiple or something...yea I would still throw two handed.

but there were 2 or 3 single pin spares i had. those I threw one handed, cause I could use the practice for league, and I have no idea how to shoot say a 10 pin two handed.

which does lead to a funny story. me and the other guy on my team throw at least one 2 handed shot during warmups. 2nd game of the night, somewhere in the middle frames, bury the pocket for a 7-10. I was so annoyed as soon as my ball came back I threw it two handed towards the right side and picked up the 10. I barely even looked, just threw it. it was more a blind fit of rage than anything

Do you have a spare plasic ball? I bowl with 2 fingers on the strike and 3 fingers on the spare but ever since i purchased a plastic spare ball i use 2 fingers on my spares and was so much better at my spare shooting. I dont use 3 anymore

[The Mayor]

I think with two handed it takes longer to figure out how exactly to hold your ball and how to be consistent with your release, but once you get it figured out you have many advantages. To get to Belmo or Osku's level takes an unbelievable amount of practice and skill.

[chrono00]

Do you have a spare plasic ball? I bowl with 2 fingers on the strike and 3 fingers on the spare but ever since i purchased a plastic spare ball i use 2 fingers on my spares and was so much better at my spare shooting. I dont use 3 anymore

no plastic balls for me. right now I only have 2 balls. the virtual energy I got about a year and a half ago, and the fratic I got like 2 months ago

[chrono00]

so last tuesday was sweeps weeks, scores don't count. I challenged the other guy on my team two handed for the first game. I beat him, I think it was like 130-89 lol. his average is in the 190's, mine 140's!

[Etrain]

no plastic balls for me. right now I only have 2 balls. the virtual energy I got about a year and a half ago, and the fratic I got like 2 months ago

how do u like the frantic? im thinking of getting it. Hows the midlane during oil conditions? unpredictable?

[chrono00]

how do u like the frantic? im thinking of getting it. Hows the midlane during oil conditions? unpredictable?

I've liked it a lot so far. the other guy on my team said he likes the way it looks and was thinking of getting one too

I haven't had too many problems with it. it's usually pretty smooth down the lane, and it's not too aggressive. the only time I really jersey with it is if I miss the mark. I do occasionally have a problem with it not hooking enough and going light, but a lot of that has to do with my own inconsistancies.

I just cleaned both balls earlier today and my towels (first batch of water was REALLY dark lol) so hopefully that'll help em a bit

[chrono00]

side note to playing my team mate two handed.

he was getting so much rev on his ball, the first few practice, he was putting it as far left as possible (he's a lefty), like almost in the gutter, and it would either shoot all the way across into the right gutter or maybe pick up a 6-10 lol

[Etrain]

well if he was bowling next to the gutter then it was most likely very dry, have him bowl more in the middle, the oil will carry it out more and will hook less.

[martin]

I think with two handed it takes longer to figure out how exactly to hold your ball and how to be consistent with your release, but once you get it figured out you have many advantages. To get to Belmo or Osku's level takes an unbelievable amount of practice and skill.

for me, maybe it's just myself not bowling consistent enough.. but i hit my mark more accurately than when i'm using 1 handed.. and i've only tried 2-handed just a couple of months ago.. lol..

[chrono00]

well if he was bowling next to the gutter then it was most likely very dry, have him bowl more in the middle, the oil will carry it out more and will hook less.

these were the practice shots and a few early ones. he did start doing that a little later on. I think a few were kinda on purpose just cause it was hilarious to watch it shoot that far across like that.

He did throw a perfect 10 in the pit during the game. I had a double early on, first one was jersey, second one was a solid pocket hit

[aussiedave]

i have been practising using the 2-handed release for the past couple of months and have gotten quite good with it.. and also, since 2-3 months ago, my center has changed from a 40feet oil to about 45 feet oil.. since then, when i use the 1-handed release, my Anaconda doesn't hook that much and i'm struggling to get good scores (150-160 avg before it eventually shoots back up to my usual 170-180 avg when the lanes dry up) but when i use the 2-handed release, somehow i get a good hook and get the 170-180 avg from the 1st game on..

so my question is, does everybody here think i should use the 2-handed release when the lanes have just been oiled?

You gotta go with the best results.
A guy in my league started trying the two handed release a couple months ago and he took to it like a duck to water. He was only averaging around 125 with the one handed release and I watched him progress with the two handed and he is shooting 150+ now and looks very good at times. The two handed suits him well and I reckon if he sticks with it, he will average well over 170 in a couple more months.
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[aussiedave]

well if he was bowling next to the gutter then it was most likely very dry, have him bowl more in the middle, the oil will carry it out more and will hook less.

Good point Etrain. The oil pattern typically looks like a christmas tree in shape and if you bowl on the extreme outside, you will get off the oil earlier. I bowl 5 boards out from the middle arrow and get good skid. If I throw right down the middle, it hardly hooks at all, especially if there are right handed straighties on there with me.
I use a Tropical Heat and can easily cover 12-14 boards with no effort at all.
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