League match play?

[dgz924s]

Hi rollers!! no pun intended....New to the forum and have a question on match play in league. The summer league I am going to be in is called Summer Trio, a name I have seen at several houses so I figure it must be a common league format...? Anyway I found it is a four game match play and I fail to understand how this works? My first thought was that I bowl one game and if I win I move on but if not I am done which doesn't work for me as I will be driving one hour one way to bowl, that would be a waste of time to drive one hour and only roll one game!....So what am I missing here?...Thanks

[Josch]

Trio refers to the number of people per team so it's a regular league with 3 person teams.

[bowl1820]

As said above a Trio just means the teams have three players on them. You will bowl four games using the match point system.

In the Match Point system each player bowls against the player opposite them in the opponent’s lineup. The points are awarded on an individual and team basis.

Typically in this system a teams lineup is sorted by average, starting from the lowest average player to highest average player. Then the players bowl against each other respectively for each point in a game.

(Note: Lineup doesn't have too be sorted by average. If the league or tournament rules permit you to set the lineup another way. Also one of USBC's rules regarding Match point is "The team scheduled on the odd lane enters its lineup first." This wouldn't really apply if your sorting by average.)

Example: A 21 point match point system with 4 players per team.

In this example 21 points is the maximum number of points possible each week a team could win.

Individual players get 1 point for each game won and 1 point for series win, for a total of 4 points possible.
Teams get 1 point for each game won and 2 points for series win, for a total of 5 points.

[dgz924s]

Ok I understand. Sounds like it may be a competitive format, of course all depending on the bowlers level of play I would think.

Is a handicap used also, I assume it does?

Thanks so much for the info!!

[bowl1820]

I understand the 3 player part but what I fail to get is how I bowl 4 games and still be match play....Thanks for the reply!

Did you read my post above.

[dgz924s]

Did you read my post above.

Yes what happened is I posted that reply before you chimed in and when I was returned back to the the forum post your reply was there so I edited the original post to acknowledge your reply. Evidently we were posting simultaneously. In otherwords your post was not there yet and that reply was for Josch.

[bowl1820]

Ok I understand. Sounds like it may be a competitive format, of course all depending on the bowlers level of play I would think.

Is a handicap used also, I assume it does?

Thanks so much for the info!!

Usually Match play format is scratch, but it could be handicap it just depends on how that league does it.

[Hampe]

I just started bowling in a friday night league like this, and I really don't understand the scoring system either. The league rule announcement says that matches are played for 18 points (1 point for direct win, 1 point for team win, 2 points for team series win, 4 game series.) I get that part, but on the league website, the scores for last week are like 38.6 to 24.7 or 31.3 to 31.7.....so I have no idea how that works. Nobody could explain it to me last week either. It's a pretty interesting format though.

[bowl1820]

Unless there is something more to the scoring going on. I don't see how they can get scores ending in .3, .6, .7 or 38 to 24.

At most In the event of a tie, you coud have a .5 in a score. And the scores of two teams should equal 18 for the night. Like 12 to 6 = 18 or 11.5 to 6.5 =18

[Stormed1]

In our summer sport shot league we bowk 4 games (2 games each against 2 different teams(. In our case there is 18 points available per set. 1 point per head to head match, 2 points for team game and 1 point for team series.The head to head matches are game + handicap. The system mentioned above may use Peterson points system where you get points for beting your oponent plus points for pinfall

[bowl1820]

In our summer sport shot league we bowk 4 games (2 games each against 2 different teams(. In our case there is 18 points available per set. 1 point per head to head match, 2 points for team game and 1 point for team series.The head to head matches are game + handicap. The system mentioned above may use Peterson points system where you get points for beting your oponent plus points for pinfall

Possibly the variation of "Petersen" point system used, Though most of the time they drop the fraction. But since Hampe just stated a 18 point system, we have to go with that. And you don't get fractional scores like those, plus the scores don't add up right to the 18 maximum possible points for the night.

Using your example 18 points per 2 game set, will only give you a maximum of 36 points possible for the night. Not the 60+ points you get with Hampe's example



For those that don't know the Petersen System-
The Petersen Point System is often confused with other point systems. This is because there seems to be no universally accepted definition of Peterson Bonus Points and varies between leagues or tournaments.

One definition that seems to be used most often is where a player or team receives one point for every xx number of pins scored.

Usually, You get 1 point for every "Block" of 25, 50 or 100 pins of total scratch or handicap scores. The bonus is then calculated by taking the player's or team's total scores (scratch or handicap) and dividing it by the block size.

For example, if you used a 50 pin block and bowled a 575, it would be 11 points. (575 divided by 50= 11.5, with the fraction dropped).

Another variation of the Petersen point system, is where points are awarded for each "block" of pins scored. For examples, if the "block" is defined as 50 pins, and you shoot 575, you would receive 11 Petersen points. In addition, bonus points are awarded for victories. (A variation of this is where you don't drop the fraction.)

Example if you won 2 games (out of 3) plus series and 10 points were awarded for each victory, you would receive a total of 41 points for the evening. (20 points for the 2 games and 10 for the series. 11+20+10=41)

[Hampe]

Unless there is something more to the scoring going on. I don't see how they can get scores ending in .3, .6, .7 or 38 to 24.

At most In the event of a tie, you coud have a .5 in a score. And the scores of two teams should equal 18 for the night. Like 12 to 6 = 18 or 11.5 to 6.5 =18Yea, I think they use some weird formula to calculate those totals. I'll ask again this friday....hopefully someone will be able to explain it this time.