My new vivid, norman duke style release

[MICHAEL]

I almost forgot to mention that when I did played far right and down the outside the ball worked real nice!! I had a problem throwing across the middle and back... ( I am told because not enough oil) I think I am going to like it now, just need to work on releasing it down the outside and standing right instead of left of center like when I throw the Undefeated. Its going to be another weapon to my arsenal!!! I will master it, I have too,, I am in love with its smell!!! God help me. ITs a great ball, I just needed time to figure out how to unleash its power of destruction!! I am VERY happy with it!! Just like a wonderful relationship like I have with my wife, ((it takes time, and adjustment))!! And in the END,,,, Bliss, Vivid memories of games won, 300 game, and 700 series!!!

[eugene02]

I almost forgot to mention that when I did played far right and down the outside the ball worked real nice!! I had a problem throwing across the middle and back... ( I am told because not enough oil) I think I am going to like it now, just need to work on releasing it down the outside and standing right instead of left of center like when I throw the Undefeated. Its going to be another weapon to my arsenal!!! I will master it, I have too,, I am in love with its smell!!! God help me. ITs a great ball, I just needed time to figure out how to unleash its power of destruction!! I am VERY happy with it!! Just like a wonderful relationship like I have with my wife, ((it takes time, and adjustment))!! And in the END,,,, Bliss, Vivid memories of games won, 300 game, and 700 series!!!

am glad you have found how to throw this ball! keep working harder to reach ur goals!!

[MICHAEL]

thanks,,,, the guy I am going to wip in the big bowl off Friday for a bunch of money, said he would take a look! He has a Vivid and bowls fantastic with it!! I might have to use the weapon that I beat him with last Friday in a 255,255 tie, then bowl off,,, which Undefeated won!! I will figure this Bad Baby Out!! I don't give up!! Its the Irish in me!!
Hard Headed and stubborn!!! Jason is bowling Damn Good with his Vivid, so Its not going to be a Cake Walk!! lol...(:)

[eugene02]

thanks,,,, the guy I am going to wip in the big bowl off Friday for a bunch of money, said he would take a look! He has a Vivid and bowls fantastic with it!! I might have to use the weapon that I beat him with last Friday in a 255,255 tie, then bowl off,,, which Undefeated won!! I will figure this Bad Baby Out!! I don't give up!! Its the Irish in me!!
Hard Headed and stubborn!!! Jason is bowling Damn Good with his Vivid, so Its not going to be a Cake Walk!! lol...(:)

practice practice and practice makes ppl go Wow!!!

[MICHAEL]

After today, bowling with Jason, (two hour practice bowling), I just can't get it to do what it should!! Jason, bowled a couple times with it and came to the same conclusion!!
Someting not right about the ball. With heavy oil, ((and jason agreed)) very little break! When alleys dried up at the end of our practice it had a little bit of kick at the end!
The Undefeated/Mission ball worked like a champ. Even Jason threw a string of strikes with it. The ball is not very consistant!! Jason noticed that also....!!! (:(

[MICHAEL]

Even Norm Duke would throw his hands up in the AIR over this ball? Could it be bad cover stock on a batch of balls...!!

[eugene02]

Even Norm Duke would throw his hands up in the AIR over this ball? Could it be bad cover stock on a batch of balls...!!

i don't think it could be because of bad cover stock though... or maybe i'm wrong.. any pros to help out?

[billf]

Could be but very rare. After seeing the picture of Mike's layout I think it was just drilled wrong. Tough to say when I haven't seen him bowl or know his PAP but it just didn't look right.

Did Trent say why he chose to leave it without a balance hole?

[MICHAEL]

Trent said it didn't need a balance hole, but it needs something, Jason throws a beautiful ball, and his vivid works GREAT... Mine,,, dosen't work for him either!! I want it to work and I am hoping we figure it out. The weight is fine, feels good leaving my hand, same speed, maybe a little more rev's but close! Its a Puzzle!! And expensive puzzle!

[eugene02]

Trent said it didn't need a balance hole, but it needs something, Jason throws a beautiful ball, and his vivid works GREAT... Mine,,, dosen't work for him either!! I want it to work and I am hoping we figure it out. The weight is fine, feels good leaving my hand, same speed, maybe a little more rev's but close! Its a Puzzle!! And expensive puzzle!

does jason ball have a balance hole? maybe it's because it's lacking of it..

[JaMau24]

does jason ball have a balance hole? maybe it's because it's lacking of it..

Ya, there is a photo in the other thread Mike has made about his Vivid not working for him, that way you can compare the two if you'd like.

[eugene02]

Ya, there is a photo in the other thread Mike has made about his Vivid not working for him, that way you can compare the two if you'd like.

still looking for the thread >_<

[MICHAEL]

No , Jason does not have a balance hole!! AND HIS BALL works GREAT... I know its not a Storm Product Problem.... I think its a Bad Apple. I just have a ball that has problems.
Jason proved that to me when he threw it!!!! Jason can pick up any ball he can get his hands in a throw a 200 plus game, He has done that with some of my bowling balls.
He bowled a complete game with mine, and got very frustrated!!! Not only because of his score, but because it was also inconsistant,,, (his words)! He actually wants my
Undefeated/Mission ball to ADD to his arsenal!! ((((( I am not sure now if I want him to have my backup Undefeated, that I had drilled a different way))). I bowl pretty good
with the undefeated, wish I could say the same for the unpredictable Vivid (:< Jason is, and is going to be ONE hell of a bowler IMHA!!!

[eugene02]

No , Jason does not have a balance hole!! AND HIS BALL works GREAT... I know its not a Storm Product Problem.... I think its a Bad Apple. I just have a ball that has problems.
Jason proved that to me when he threw it!!!! Jason can pick up any ball he can get his hands in a throw a 200 plus game, He has done that with some of my bowling balls.
He bowled a complete game with mine, and got very frustrated!!! Not only because of his score, but because it was also inconsistant,,, (his words)! He actually wants my
Undefeated/Mission ball to ADD to his arsenal!! ((((( I am not sure now if I want him to have my backup Undefeated, that I had drilled a different way))). I bowl pretty good
with the undefeated, wish I could say the same for the unpredictable Vivid (:< Jason is, and is going to be ONE hell of a bowler IMHA!!!

from what i've read from what you posted so far.. could be real possibly that its the ball's fault! get it looked at and find ways to get around it!

[billf]

Ummm Mike, look at Jason's ball again. In the picture I see a balance hole.

[JaMau24]

still looking for the thread >_<

It's in the "New Vivid Not Doing It!!" Thread on page 5.. Here is the link, just scroll down a little and you'll see it http://www.bowlingboards.com/threads/9598-New-Vivid-Not-doing-it!!/page5


Ummm Mike, look at Jason's ball again. In the picture I see a balance hole.

Yes, I do have a balance hole. It's in a spot to make the ball even more aggressive.

[eugene02]

It's in the "New Vivid Not Doing It!!" Thread on page 5.. Here is the link, just scroll down a little and you'll see it http://www.bowlingboards.com/threads/9598-New-Vivid-Not-doing-it!!/page5



Yes, I do have a balance hole. It's in a spot to make the ball even more aggressive.

oh! thanks.. saw it alr... why doesn't michael ball doesn't have the balance hole than? could be the problem??