Please explain this style of release?

[nordattack]

Ball is held with classic suitcase grip all the way through the release.
Arm swing is very relaxed, pendulum.
Ball enters the lane with a corkscrew like rotation with the axis pointing down the lane towards the pins and the ball rotating counter clockwise, right to left around that axis.
The ball slides and rotates like a corkscrew even on very dry conditions for almost a full ¾ of the lane.
Ball hits the back end and transitions into a slight quick hook that then transitions into a straight roll if the transition is early enough or a 10 o’clock angled hook-roll if the transition is later.
Looking at the ball with the thumbhole on the bottom and the fingers on top, the Ball Track crosses just to the left outside of the middle finger and the right outside of the thumb in a 10 o’clock to 4 o’clock diagonal.
What would you call this style?

[10-in-the-pit]

is it just called spinning like a top or corkscrew? that style is not very common in the U.S., mostly in parts of Asia.

[nordattack]

is it just called spinning like a top or corkscrew? that style is not very common in the U.S., mostly in parts of Asia.

No it is not Spinner style.
Spinner style has the axis pointing straight up like a planet as it hovers slides down the lane.
The release I am talking about is like flipping the planet on its side with the axis pointing down the lane and the ball rotating counter clockwise (gutter to gutter) as it moves down the lane until it transitions into a hook/roll.

[bowl1820]

Spinners use a style of release known variously as spinning, helicopter, or UFO. Regardless of what it's known as, a spinner releases a ball such that it is rotating along a vertical axis (the x-axis) in a counter clockwise motion (right-hander) as it moves down the lane. Spinning is a popular style in Asia, especially Taiwan, where lanes are usually oiled from the foul line to the pin rack, and present little to no opportunity for a ball thrown in one of the three more orthodox fashions to find friction on any part of the lane. A hook needs friction, in order to allow the ball to "grab" the lane. In spinning, very little of the ball's surface touches the lane, which is what the spinner intends. Spinning does not require friction of any kind.

[bowl1820]

No it is not Spinner style.
Spinner style has the axis pointing straight up like a planet as it hovers slides down the lane.
The release I am talking about is like flipping the planet on its side with the axis pointing down the lane and the ball rotating counter clockwise (gutter to gutter) as it moves down the lane until it transitions into a hook/roll.

If you flipped the planet on its side the axis would not point down. The axis would be horizontal to the lane surface, thats called rolling. When the axis is perpendicular to the lane (pointing down or up) its spinning.

[bowl1820]

Okay sorry reread your post, thats just a ball release thrown with 90 degrees of axis rotation and 0 degrees of tilt.

And given where the oil track is that says a full roller release.

[nordattack]

Ok, thank you.
I had always thought a Full Roller was more straight with the the north and south poles of the axis pointing at each gutter rather than the north and south poles pointing at the bowler and the pins.

[JerseyJim]

Actually Pete Weber is pretty dang close to a 90 degree axis rotation. His hand starts under the ball, however when he releases it, his thumb is straight up in the air. You can see it in this video, he's right after Sean Rash.

http://www.bing.com/videos/search?q=pete+weber%27s+release&view=detail&mid=DF789625D3B3E76ACBB6DF789625D3B3E76ACBB6&first=0

[chrono00]

Spinners use a style of release known variously as spinning, helicopter, or UFO. Regardless of what it's known as, a spinner releases a ball such that it is rotating along a vertical axis (the x-axis) in a counter clockwise motion (right-hander) as it moves down the lane. Spinning is a popular style in Asia, especially Taiwan, where lanes are usually oiled from the foul line to the pin rack, and present little to no opportunity for a ball thrown in one of the three more orthodox fashions to find friction on any part of the lane. A hook needs friction, in order to allow the ball to "grab" the lane. In spinning, very little of the ball's surface touches the lane, which is what the spinner intends. Spinning does not require friction of any kind.

kinda sounds close to what I think I did before I learned to lock my wrist and stay under the ball. was averaging between 110-120 then. now i'm closer to 150. big difference. first 2 weeks after the transisiton especially, I would drop the ball a few times, but still get enough rev on the ball to get a solid pocket hit. that solid pocket hit alone will do wonders for the average.

[martin]

i used to use this.. tends to have little hook when on heavy oil IMO..

[eugene02]

i do play spinner sometimes with my spare ball.. does hit crazily hard on the pins if the were on the right track. pins are flying all over..