Resurfacing

[JCasey1992]

How often should I resurface my balls? My summer league just started and i wondered if it would be beneficial to resurface my balls.

[eugene02]

How often should I resurface my balls? My summer league just started and i wondered if it would be beneficial to resurface my balls.

it depends on how oily the lanes is and how early you want your ball to react..

[billf]

Most ball manufacturers will have their recommendations on their website

[bowl1820]

How often should I resurface my balls? My summer league just started and i wondered if it would be beneficial to resurface my balls.

Heres a basic guide

http://img651.imageshack.us/img651/9031/mainmatrix.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/651/mainmatrix.jpg/)

[bowl1820]

Also remember there's a difference between a true Resurfacing which means removing all nicks, cuts gouges etc. making the ball look like new again.

and just refreshing the surface texture back to what you had it or making a texture change which you can do anytime you want.

[jaydee]

I don't know anyone that repolishes/rescuffs their balls every 10 games and full resurface every 60 games. I know that's what Storm says, but sheesh, that gets really pricy fast. That's like $150 in ball maintenance for just one league over a whole season.

Honestly, the best thing you can do for your ball is to have a good ball cleaner and thoroughly clean your bowling ball(s) after every set. Then, I'll get my covers scuffed/repolished once/twice per year and I haven't noticed any loss of reaction. Full resurface every couple years.

In terms of games, probably something like a rescuff/repolish every 50-60 games, full rejuvination/resurface every 200 games, but obviously I don't actually count the games, its just an estimate. The important thing is to clean your equipment after every set, not let the oil soak into the coverstock.

[billf]

I bowl three leagues during the fall season. every week I de-oil my balls, polish/sand as per what the ball requires. I average, with practice games, 30-40 games a week. I keep finger inserts in my bag and change them as I feel is needed.

[eugene02]

i've never resurfaced my ball except cleaning it with a ball cleaner after everytime i bowl..

[bowl1820]

I don't know anyone that repolishes/rescuffs their balls every 10 games and full resurface every 60 games. I know that's what Storm says, but sheesh, that gets really pricy fast. That's like $150 in ball maintenance for just one league over a whole season.

Honestly, the best thing you can do for your ball is to have a good ball cleaner and thoroughly clean your bowling ball(s) after every set. Then, I'll get my covers scuffed/repolished once/twice per year and I haven't noticed any loss of reaction. Full resurface every couple years.

In terms of games, probably something like a rescuff/repolish every 50-60 games, full rejuvination/resurface every 200 games, but obviously I don't actually count the games, its just an estimate. The important thing is to clean your equipment after every set, not let the oil soak into the coverstock.

150 dollars!!! how many balls is that for. During that one season. If it's for one ball thats a little high.

Also Cost is why a lot of people get their own spinner, a $150 to $200 for a spinner is a good investment.

As I said that Storm chart is just a basic guide and it's the same schedule recommended by other places. That doesn't mean you have to follow it to the letter.

Like doing a Full resurface (make it look like new), most don't do it unless they are getting rid of a ball or having to fix some like a gouge in the track.

Just use your own judgement if your reaction isn't changing leave it alone.

[jaydee]

150 dollars!!! how many balls is that for. During that one season. If it's for one ball thats a little high.

Also Cost is why a lot of people get their own spinner, a $150 to $200 for a spinner is a good investment.

As I said that Storm chart is just a basic guide and it's the same schedule recommended by other places. That doesn't mean you have to follow it to the letter.

Like doing a Full resurface (make it look like new), most don't do it unless they are getting rid of a ball or having to fix some like a gouge in the track.

Just use your own judgement if your reaction isn't changing leave it alone.

Well sure, add it up. If you freshen the surface every 10 games over 90 games in a normal league, at $10/freshen, that's $90. Then a $30 full resurface twice, it's $60 more. Ok if you only resuface once, that's only $120, but still. That's why I think Storm's chart is crazy.

[bowl1820]

Well sure, add it up. If you freshen the surface every 10 games over 90 games in a normal league, at $10/freshen, that's $90. Then a $30 full resurface twice, it's $60 more. Ok if you only resuface once, that's only $120, but still. That's why I think Storm's chart is crazy.

Okay lets say one ball, one league, 102 game season. (not counting practice games)

Sanding or polishing or surface change:
$10 per refreshing the surface is a pretty high price. Average price I've seen is about $4. For a refresh or surface change.
So 9 times in a season that's $36.00

Full resurface including trued up with the diamond wheels on a Haus machine:
Price range is $25 to $40 so $30 is a reasonable price.
Once during the season or at the end of it. $30

That's $66 dollars

extras:
De oiling around $20 in a revivor.
New inserts installed $10, DIY install $8.

Above + extras $96 for the season

Here's a link to a pro shop I just picked at random and it's PRICE LIST OF PRO SHOP SERVICES look at the prices for surface work.
http://www.jeffmillerproshop.com/Services.html


Now if you have a lot balls and/or bowl a lot of practice, yes it can cost a lot. that's why you spend $200-$250 (that's about the cost of one ball) for a spinner and starter kit of supplies and do it yourself.

[martin]

i've never resurfaced my ball except cleaning it with a ball cleaner after everytime i bowl..

same with me.. lol

[eugene02]

Okay lets say one ball, one league, 102 game season. (not counting practice games)

Sanding or polishing or surface change:
$10 per refreshing the surface is a pretty high price. Average price I've seen is about $4. For a refresh or surface change.
So 9 times in a season that's $36.00

Full resurface including trued up with the diamond wheels on a Haus machine:
Price range is $25 to $40 so $30 is a reasonable price.
Once during the season or at the end of it. $30

That's $66 dollars

extras:
De oiling around $20 in a revivor.
New inserts installed $10, DIY install $8.

Above + extras $96 for the season

Here's a link to a pro shop I just picked at random and it's PRICE LIST OF PRO SHOP SERVICES look at the prices for surface work.
http://www.jeffmillerproshop.com/Services.html


Now if you have a lot balls and/or bowl a lot of practice, yes it can cost a lot. that's why you spend $200-$250 (that's about the cost of one ball) for a spinner and starter kit of supplies and do it yourself.

too expensive to handle! might as well get a new ball!!!

[billf]

$220 for a spinner (new) with starter kit that includes pads, cleaners and polishes, $250 for a high end ball =$450 first year. Ball and spinner easily last 5 years. $150 a year for a new ball and never resurface X 5 (years) =$750

To me it's a no brainer.

[eugene02]

$220 for a spinner (new) with starter kit that includes pads, cleaners and polishes, $250 for a high end ball =$450 first year. Ball and spinner easily last 5 years. $150 a year for a new ball and never resurface X 5 (years) =$750

To me it's a no brainer.

>_< well.. after this maths i think getting a spinner is better.. haha..

[eugene02]

$220 for a spinner (new) with starter kit that includes pads, cleaners and polishes, $250 for a high end ball =$450 first year. Ball and spinner easily last 5 years. $150 a year for a new ball and never resurface X 5 (years) =$750

To me it's a no brainer.

http://www.ebay.com.sg/itm/Bowling-Ball-Spinner-Sanding-Cup-SMarT-Pro-Basic-Ball-Spinners-/261021507317?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item3cc6181ef5

is this considered a good spinner?

[martin]

i usually just "throw" my ball to the Pro Shop (they have a spinner there) and my Clean n Dull every month or so.. let them do the work.. lol..

[eugene02]

i usually just "throw" my ball to the Pro Shop (they have a spinner there) and my Clean n Dull every month or so.. let them do the work.. lol..

clean n dull isn't a cleaner solution to clean ur ball once you've done playing?? i always thought it was..

[bowl1820]

http://www.ebay.com.sg/itm/Bowling-Ball-Spinner-Sanding-Cup-SMarT-Pro-Basic-Ball-Spinners-/261021507317?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item3cc6181ef5

is this considered a good spinner?

The SMarT Pro is not a Spinner! it's basically just a contoured sandpaper holder.
http://www.polishyourball.com/images/90c83b6b0f81fb9d376ab745704f2bdc_7tvr.jpg
See all about it here.
http://www.polishyourball.com/

This is a spinner
http://www.innovativeballspinner.com/images/personal%20ball%20spinner.jpg

Innovative, Vertex Mold and Donkee make some good ones.

Now The SMarT Pro stuff doesn't look bad. I think if you were a beginner or only had one ball and wanted to experiment with cover changes or freshen up your surface and you were careful. It might be a good , cheap way to go. (I'd get the Rotating Ball Holder too.)

[eugene02]

The SMarT Pro is not a Spinner! it's basically just a contoured sandpaper holder.
http://www.polishyourball.com/images/90c83b6b0f81fb9d376ab745704f2bdc_7tvr.jpg
See all about it here.
http://www.polishyourball.com/

This is a spinner
http://www.innovativeballspinner.com/images/personal%20ball%20spinner.jpg

Innovative, Vertex Mold and Donkee make some good ones.

Now The SMarT Pro stuff doesn't look bad. I think if you were a beginner or only had one ball and wanted to experiment with cover changes or freshen up your surface and you were careful. It might be a good , cheap way to go. (I'd get the Rotating Ball Holder too.)

whats the difference between this and the one i post? cant use the sandpaper one for polishing? whats a spinner really used for?

[billf]

The spinner is what the ball sits in and spins. The one you posted is ONLY the part they show the hand on. It is a very misleading picture but the description clearly says that it is the part in the hand.

[eugene02]

The spinner is what the ball sits in and spins. The one you posted is ONLY the part they show the hand on. It is a very misleading picture but the description clearly says that it is the part in the hand.

OH!! my bad sorry.. just realised thats only the CUP of the spinner.. real thing is here;
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xPFaHfrylyM

oopsy daisy!

[martin]

clean n dull isn't a cleaner solution to clean ur ball once you've done playing?? i always thought it was..

maybe.. but i usually clean it once every 2 weeks or once a month with the clean n dull.. and use the pro shop spinner so that it cleans the whole ball.. if we clean it manually, maybe there will be parts we miss out..

[eugene02]

maybe.. but i usually clean it once every 2 weeks or once a month with the clean n dull.. and use the pro shop spinner so that it cleans the whole ball.. if we clean it manually, maybe there will be parts we miss out..

if so, what do you use to clean your ball after every game??

[billf]

maybe.. but i usually clean it once every 2 weeks or once a month with the clean n dull.. and use the pro shop spinner so that it cleans the whole ball.. if we clean it manually, maybe there will be parts we miss out..

Is this one of those machines that you put coins in and the ball goes inside? If so, make sure it's a cleaner and not a polisher. We have a polisher at the alley and I see well meaning people putting their dull balls in there all the time thinking it will clean it.

[eugene02]

Is this one of those machines that you put coins in and the ball goes inside? If so, make sure it's a cleaner and not a polisher. We have a polisher at the alley and I see well meaning people putting their dull balls in there all the time thinking it will clean it.

Gosh. that sux.. Did you tell them it was a polisher and not a cleaner? haha.. gonna be dam hell funny if you see a person trying to get a hook and it just go straight down because it was polished..

[billf]

Gosh. that sux.. Did you tell them it was a polisher and not a cleaner? haha.. gonna be dam hell funny if you see a person trying to get a hook and it just go straight down because it was polished..
Yes I tell them. Then I tell them for $15 I can put it back to factory finish. Then they usually laugh, bowl bad and I leave with their ball knowing the next day I will have $15 and a new customer.

[martin]

not sure what brand it is.. but it's a small bottle and sort of greenish i think.. lol..

@bill: it's a spinner.. maybe i can take a picture of it sometime..

[nev]

Have you seen these Click for Contour Abrasion Blocks (http://shop.bowlersparadise.com/taxi-bowling-ball-maintenance.aspx)

[eugene02]

Have you seen these (http://shop.bowlersparadise.com/taxi-bowling-ball-maintenance.aspx)

nope never seen those before.. but i guess it does the same thing as what the normal abralon pad does too?

[bowl1820]

Have you seen these (http://shop.bowlersparadise.com/taxi-bowling-ball-maintenance.aspx)

Yes those C.A.B.'s Contour Abrasion Blocks, they have been around for years and are used in most every pro shop. Besides the sandpaper you can use them with abralon pads also.



nope never seen those before.. but i guess it does the same thing as what the normal abralon pad does too?

The C.A.B.'s are basically just like the SMarT Pro mentioned earlier. They hold the sandpaper or abralon pads, they are contoured to fit the shape of the ball. This gives you better more even surface contact with the ball and Also helps keep the ball round.

[eugene02]

Yes those C.A.B.'s Contour Abrasion Blocks, they have been around for years and are used in most every pro shop. Besides the sandpaper you can use them with abralon pads also.




The C.A.B.'s are basically just like the SMarT Pro mentioned earlier. They hold the sandpaper or abralon pads, they are contoured to fit the shape of the ball. This gives you better more even surface contact with the ball and Also helps keep the ball round.

oh.. so when it's sanding it wont leave the finger shape.. am i right? :D

[bowl1820]

oh.. so when it's sanding it wont leave the finger shape.. am i right? :D

Well you dont leave the finger shape in the first place. But for simplicity sake, yes you could look at that way.

It distributes the pressure more evenly across the ball surface, which improves the cutting of the abrasive being used.