View Full Version : Day 1 of Training, :(2 finger bowling)
martinezsam2495
06-03-2012, 04:21 PM
I switched from using my index finger and middle finger, to my ring finger and middle finger, and my shots have become more consistent. I hit a personal record today of an all high 195, not too shabby, Thanks to my coach my uncle Juan. He showed me my strike zone, between the 2nd arrow, or a little more than the first arrow, if it's anywhere else, most likely it'll break a 9 or give me a lucky strike. Now I know I can essentially hit 200, and get my own bowling ball and shoes, my dad is going to be surprised how much I improved! Before that I hit a 189. Thanks for reading.
Cheers Sam
MinnesotaBowler
06-03-2012, 06:56 PM
That's great! You'll get that 200 in no time!
GeorgiaStroker
06-03-2012, 07:40 PM
Are you going to have a thumb hole drilled in your new ball Sam?:) You could always just not use it if you don't like it. Or have it plugged. I'm not trying to talk you out of something that is comfortable and working, but as you are young it would be easier to change now than when you are older. Most of us old guys would be on a stretcher if we tried to throw a ball like that for any length of time. LOL
billf
06-03-2012, 08:23 PM
I know bowlers who only use the thumb for certain spares to get the extra control. One bowls on my men's league team. Oksu Palermo is another I've seen do it.
Better to have a hole you don't need rather than need a hole you don't have:p
Etrain
06-03-2012, 09:24 PM
I know bowlers who only use the thumb for certain spares to get the extra control. One bowls on my men's league team. Oksu Palermo is another I've seen do it.
Better to have a hole you don't need rather than need a hole you don't have:p
good point... and once u get your new ball expect your shot to change dramatically especially if your going with fingertips (recomended). Also dont go all out and get a hi performance as your first ball.. start with a low end ball like a slingshot> Assuming u have a hi rev rate (2 fingers usually do) and shooting on house shots itll probably be perfect for your situtation
martinezsam2495
06-05-2012, 12:12 AM
That's great! You'll get that 200 in no time!
thanks! I hope so,
martinezsam2495
06-05-2012, 12:15 AM
Are you going to have a thumb hole drilled in your new ball Sam?:) You could always just not use it if you don't like it. Or have it plugged. I'm not trying to talk you out of something that is comfortable and working, but as you are young it would be easier to change now than when you are older. Most of us old guys would be on a stretcher if we tried to throw a ball like that for any length of time. LOL
yeah I am going to get a hole drilled for my thumb, I don't see a negative point if I don't, yeah it's better to have the option. I might change my style, once I get my new ball, or have a combination, since my uncle wants me to learn the thumb hook after I get my new ball. haha I don't think it's that difficult, I'm sure you could have some fun trying it out, hahaha
martinezsam2495
06-05-2012, 12:16 AM
I know bowlers who only use the thumb for certain spares to get the extra control. One bowls on my men's league team. Oksu Palermo is another I've seen do it.
Better to have a hole you don't need rather than need a hole you don't have:p
Yeah, it can be used as an advantage, since I can not throw a straight ball with the ball I'm using at the moment, I'm planning on getting a critical theory ball, but I heard that if you use 2 fingers and you swtich to 3 you have to start your average all over again?
martinezsam2495
06-05-2012, 12:18 AM
good point... and once u get your new ball expect your shot to change dramatically especially if your going with fingertips (recomended). Also dont go all out and get a hi performance as your first ball.. start with a low end ball like a slingshot> Assuming u have a hi rev rate (2 fingers usually do) and shooting on house shots itll probably be perfect for your situtation
I'm planning on getting a crtical theory,
how do I calculate my rev rate? I can sometimes throw it with a lot of curve, but it's not usually needed, :p
haha
Etrain
06-05-2012, 07:55 AM
Well if u can curve a houseball good then I would assume you will have a hi rev rate when u get a finger tip ball. Bowlingball.com has ratings and is a perfect site to do research they also have a scale rating based on hook potential
J Anderson
06-05-2012, 11:57 AM
Yeah, it can be used as an advantage, since I can not throw a straight ball with the ball I'm using at the moment, I'm planning on getting a critical theory ball, but I heard that if you use 2 fingers and you swtich to 3 you have to start your average all over again?
There are only two times that I know of when a new average must be started over from scratch: A youth bowler switching from two handed, no finger delivery to one handed. An adult bowler switching from right handed to left or visa- versa.
TheSheibs
06-05-2012, 12:09 PM
I think I saw in another thread that you are lifted handed. If that's true then you can naturally hook the ball without trying too hard, with the properly fitted and drilled ball. I am left handed and have a Colombia 300 Freeze Hybrid that is drilled for a finger tip grip. I use all three fingers too. When I throw this ball all I have to do is make sure I hit my mark and have a good release. The ball does the rest. If you have to force the ball to hook, as a left handed bowler, it is not drilled right. Keep in mind that a majority of bowlers in the world are right handed. In order for their advice to work, you have to flip it to a mirror image to see translate what they say into how us lefties bowl. We have the ability to wow right handed bowlers with picking up spares. Bowling is one sport where being left handed has it's advantage.
I am not saying that any advice given to you is bad. In fact the opposite. People have given you great advice on here. All I am saying is don't forget to translate it into what us lefties do.
martinezsam2495
06-05-2012, 06:36 PM
yeah I'm able to curve houseballs, I haven't tried curving a houseball greater than 12 pounds though..
The ball that I'm currently using is 15 pounds though
martinezsam2495
06-05-2012, 06:36 PM
There are only two times that I know of when a new average must be started over from scratch: A youth bowler switching from two handed, no finger delivery to one handed. An adult bowler switching from right handed to left or visa- versa.
Oh, so I would be able to throw both aways and shouldn't experience any problems?
martinezsam2495
06-05-2012, 06:40 PM
I think I saw in another thread that you are lifted handed. If that's true then you can naturally hook the ball without trying too hard, with the properly fitted and drilled ball. I am left handed and have a Colombia 300 Freeze Hybrid that is drilled for a finger tip grip. I use all three fingers too. When I throw this ball all I have to do is make sure I hit my mark and have a good release. The ball does the rest. If you have to force the ball to hook, as a left handed bowler, it is not drilled right. Keep in mind that a majority of bowlers in the world are right handed. In order for their advice to work, you have to flip it to a mirror image to see translate what they say into how us lefties bowl. We have the ability to wow right handed bowlers with picking up spares. Bowling is one sport where being left handed has it's advantage.
I am not saying that any advice given to you is bad. In fact the opposite. People have given you great advice on here. All I am saying is don't forget to translate it into what us lefties do.
Since your a lefty as well, I would like to ask you a question, on a house pattern, will a critical theory be a great choice? I throw with a hook, and my strike shot requires me to release the ball, towards the 2nd arrow from the right side of the lane, and letting it go down the lane then hook into the 2nd and 1st pin on the left, it sends all the pins flying.
Really? I don't throw with 3 fingers yet though, I never knew that... so we lefty's have the power of a natural hook?!
I'm going to post a video of me bowling soon, maybe by Sunday, and I would ask if you can personally give me advise on wether what ball I should get, or approach, etc..
thanks in advance!
bowl1820
06-05-2012, 07:02 PM
I think I saw in another thread that you are lifted(<-left) handed. If that's true then you can naturally hook the ball without trying too hard, with the properly fitted and drilled ball.
Where did you hear lefties naturally hook a ball from? In all my years of bowling and all the stuff I've read I've never seen that statement made.
Now the closest thing I've heard to something like that is, That women have a natural tendency to throw backup balls that men don't. It has to do with the construction of men and women's arms.
If you have to force the ball to hook, as a left handed bowler, it is not drilled right.
Yes, if you have to force a ball to do something, then something is wrong. But it's not necessarily drilled wrong, there are several possible causes.
Wrong ball for the lane conditions, Your not releasing it properly, etc. You just can't just jump to "well the ball is not hooking and I'm a left hander so it's drilled wrong"
Keep in mind that a majority of bowlers in the world are right handed. In order for their advice to work, you have to flip it to a mirror image to see translate what they say into how us lefties bowl.
Okay that's true enough for most things.
We have the ability to wow right handed bowlers with picking up spares.
Left or right Handiness has nothing to do with picking up spares, it's skill and practice.
Bowling is one sport where being left handed has it's advantage.
To an extent this can be true, in regards to how the lanes are dressed and how conditions break down through out a bowling match. But being a left hander can also be a liability because of the same reasons.
I am not saying that any advice given to you is bad. In fact the opposite. People have given you great advice on here. All I am saying is don't forget to translate it into what us lefties do.
Well said.
martinezsam2495
06-05-2012, 08:12 PM
Where did you hear lefties naturally hook a ball from? In all my years of bowling and all the stuff I've read I've never seen that statement made.
Now the closest thing I've heard to something like that is, That women have a natural tendency to throw backup balls that men don't. It has to do with the construction of men and women's arms.
Yes, if you have to force a ball to do something, then something is wrong. But it's not necessarily drilled wrong, there are several possible causes.
Wrong ball for the lane conditions, Your not releasing it properly, etc. You just can't just jump to "well the ball is not hooking and I'm a left hander so it's drilled wrong"
Okay that's true enough for most things.
Left or right Handiness has nothing to do with picking up spares, it's skill and practice.
To an extent this can be true, in regards to how the lanes are dressed and how conditions break down through out a bowling match. But being a left hander can also be a liability because of the same reasons.
Well said.
Have you tried the Critical theory? I heard it has amazing hook potential,
bowl1820
06-05-2012, 08:37 PM
Have you tried the Critical theory? I heard it has amazing hook potential,
I haven't used one, so I can't give you any personal opinion on it.
TheSheibs
06-05-2012, 08:42 PM
All my life I have been told lefties have a natural hook and don't have to work as hard to make it happen. I've never questioned it since I have caused a house ball to curve, which if I remember correctly are drilled in a nuturl(sp?) pattern. By that I mean that the finger holes are drilled the same size and the top of the finger hole and bottom of the finger hole are even. If I remember right house balls are drilled this way so that no matter what hand you bowl with, you can still use one. As the original poster of this thread stated: he can hook a house ball. Back to lefties having a natural curve. Think back to the 80s. We didn't have the cores in those ball like we do today that make it so that even someone new to bowling can make it curve. So you had to know how to throw it to get that hook. With a lefty, we start to notice the ball curving at an early stage in developing our bowling technique. You might not have heard it before because there aren't that many left handed people in the world, let alone that bowl on leagues. Next time your at your league count how many are left handed and then ask how long it took them to get the ball to curve. Also, I don't think anyone has actually done a study on it. Maybe one day I'll do a little research on the topic.
When I said that if the ball doesn't curve for you, it would be drilled wrong. I speak from a situation I cam across where the ball was drilled in such a way that the pin was above and centered between the finger holes and the oil ring(right term?) was going through my thumb hole and between my finger holes. When throwing it straight at the head pin I noticed(multiple times) that the ball would start to curve to the right but then go back to the left. When I showed it to another pro-shop I found out that it was conventional grip(what I wanted due to being how I've thrown for many years) and that he holes where drilled in a spot that the ball would only curve if you forced it. Therefore, the conclusion was it was drilled wrong for a lefty who used a conventional grip. Not saying that it is the reason for the ball to not curve but for a lefty who had no problem in the past and then switched to a heavier ball, how t was drilled was the problem. The pro-shop did suggest that I keep it for a spare ball. That's another Discusion though.
As for picking up spares. I have no problem throwing accross the lane to pick up the 7 pin or the 10pin. Most righties will use a spare ball and try to throw as straight as they can for the ten while standing in the same spot as their first ball. Please note that has been my observation made during league bowling and for all I know could be how they are taught in the Bay Area.
As for lane conditions. A right handed bowler has multiple people bowling on the right side of the lane. Which if the lanes are freshly oiled could have cause a poor bowler(right handed) to change the line to the pins and could affect how their ball breaks. A left handed person, goingwith the odds of another left handed bowler being on the same lanes, are more than likely the only left hander on that set of lanes. Therefore, a lefty can make a nice line to the pocket on the left side of the lane that would only be affected closer to the pines and after their ball has started breaking towards the head pin.
Please keep in mind that some of what I said are based on my own observations, not articles or statements made by any proffessional bowlers.
As for a ball. I have to admit that all of the new balls have cores that help a ball curve and keep the speed up. Most of the information on new balls are for a right handed bowler. I suggest asking around the pro shops to see if any of them are familiar with left handed bowling. Maybe even have them watch you bowl a game so they an make a good recommendation. I have a freeze hybrid with a fingertip grip that was just the set up and ball I needed to get my game back on track. I would imagine that a person from your local pro-shop would be able to make a good recommendation.
As for how I bowl. I have a four step approach, smooth fluid swing, ball starts to move on the second step, keeping my eye on the second mark from the left. I also hold the ball with my hand either on the side or 45 degrees to the side from the bottom. I start with a short first step too. I finish with letting the ball roll out of my hand and my thumb on top like I'm shaking hands. Once the ball passes my mark, I look at the pins.
martinezsam2495
06-05-2012, 09:29 PM
Well if u can curve a houseball good then I would assume you will have a hi rev rate when u get a finger tip ball. Bowlingball.com has ratings and is a perfect site to do research they also have a scale rating based on hook potential
yeah I know, but I been doing research and I'm wondering wether if I should get it drilled at a pro shop, or do it as soon as possible?
TheSheibs
06-05-2012, 09:57 PM
Do it at a pro shop. They would be your best bet on getting a ball drilled right.
billf
06-05-2012, 10:03 PM
Plus building a rapport with your pro shop can have many advantages besides the fact usually by the time you buy a ball elsewhere, have it drilled, gripped and slugged it ends up costing more.
J Anderson
06-05-2012, 11:31 PM
All my life I have been told lefties have a natural hook and don't have to work as hard to make it happen. I've never questioned it since I have caused a house ball to curve, which if I remember correctly are drilled in a nuturl(sp?) pattern. By that I mean that the finger holes are drilled the same size and the top of the finger hole and bottom of the finger hole are even. If I remember right house balls are drilled this way so that no matter what hand you bowl with, you can still use one. As the original poster of this thread stated: he can hook a house ball. Back to lefties having a natural curve. Think back to the 80s. We didn't have the cores in those ball like we do today that make it so that even someone new to bowling can make it curve. So you had to know how to throw it to get that hook. With a lefty, we start to notice the ball curving at an early stage in developing our bowling technique. You might not have heard it before because there aren't that many left handed people in the world, let alone that bowl on leagues. Next time your at your league count how many are left handed and then ask how long it took them to get the ball to curve. Also, I don't think anyone has actually done a study on it. Maybe one day I'll do a little research on the topic.
When I said that if the ball doesn't curve for you, it would be drilled wrong. I speak from a situation I cam across where the ball was drilled in such a way that the pin was above and centered between the finger holes and the oil ring(right term?) was going through my thumb hole and between my finger holes. When throwing it straight at the head pin I noticed(multiple times) that the ball would start to curve to the right but then go back to the left. When I showed it to another pro-shop I found out that it was conventional grip(what I wanted due to being how I've thrown for many years) and that he holes where drilled in a spot that the ball would only curve if you forced it. Therefore, the conclusion was it was drilled wrong for a lefty who used a conventional grip. Not saying that it is the reason for the ball to not curve but for a lefty who had no problem in the past and then switched to a heavier ball, how t was drilled was the problem. The pro-shop did suggest that I keep it for a spare ball. That's another Discusion though.
As for picking up spares. I have no problem throwing accross the lane to pick up the 7 pin or the 10pin. Most righties will use a spare ball and try to throw as straight as they can for the ten while standing in the same spot as their first ball. Please note that has been my observation made during league bowling and for all I know could be how they are taught in the Bay Area.
As for lane conditions. A right handed bowler has multiple people bowling on the right side of the lane. Which if the lanes are freshly oiled could have cause a poor bowler(right handed) to change the line to the pins and could affect how their ball breaks. A left handed person, goingwith the odds of another left handed bowler being on the same lanes, are more than likely the only left hander on that set of lanes. Therefore, a lefty can make a nice line to the pocket on the left side of the lane that would only be affected closer to the pines and after their ball has started breaking towards the head pin.
Please keep in mind that some of what I said are based on my own observations, not articles or statements made by any proffessional bowlers.
As for a ball. I have to admit that all of the new balls have cores that help a ball curve and keep the speed up. Most of the information on new balls are for a right handed bowler. I suggest asking around the pro shops to see if any of them are familiar with left handed bowling. Maybe even have them watch you bowl a game so they an make a good recommendation. I have a freeze hybrid with a fingertip grip that was just the set up and ball I needed to get my game back on track. I would imagine that a person from your local pro-shop would be able to make a good recommendation.
As for how I bowl. I have a four step approach, smooth fluid swing, ball starts to move on the second step, keeping my eye on the second mark from the left. I also hold the ball with my hand either on the side or 45 degrees to the side from the bottom. I start with a short first step too. I finish with letting the ball roll out of my hand and my thumb on top like I'm shaking hands. Once the ball passes my mark, I look at the pins.
I started bowling back in 1975 as the sixth man on a five man team. That is I joined the team to sub for someone who was out for two months after a hernia operation. After he came back we rotated with the low man sitting out, and everyone bowling at least two of the three games. Like Bowl1820, I have never heard of lefties having a natural hook. That said, I can only think of one lefty that throws straight. My original team had one lefty who threw a hook very much like Earl Anthony's. ( Started straight down the first arrow and broke toward the 1-2 pocket ) Most of us righties threw almost dead straight. We did have one righty who threw between the second and third arrows out to the five board and back.
It sounds like you use what Dick Ritger called a 4/3 approach. I watched a couple of Youtube clips of Earl Anthony teaching the 4 and five step approaches. Even though he was saying to push the ball out on the first step of the four step, and the second of the five, When he demonstrated, he didn't push the ball out. He just let the ball fall into the swing on the second or third step. I havent looked to see if that was what he was doing in his prime.
TheSheibs
06-06-2012, 12:08 AM
I just had a thought for the creator of this thread.
That thought is more of a question. You are bowling with two fingers and let the ball drop away before you throw it. Have you tried two handed bowling? My thought here, with little knowledge about two handed bowling, is that you don't need to use your thumb since you are throwing with only two fingers in the ball. There would be less chance of your fingers getting stuck in the ball. This is just thinking out loud. If you want to give it a shot, feel free to.
martinezsam2495
06-06-2012, 01:30 AM
I haven't used one, so I can't give you any personal opinion on it. What ball do you use, if you release the ball with hook?
martinezsam2495
06-06-2012, 01:37 AM
I just had a thought for the creator of this thread.
That thought is more of a question. You are bowling with two fingers and let the ball drop away before you throw it. Have you tried two handed bowling? My thought here, with little knowledge about two handed bowling, is that you don't need to use your thumb since you are throwing with only two fingers in the ball. There would be less chance of your fingers getting stuck in the ball. This is just thinking out loud. If you want to give it a shot, feel free to.
your information has been helpful ^.^
It is true I haven't met much left handed bowlers, and the ones who I have, can throw a good curve ball,
martinezsam2495
06-06-2012, 01:39 AM
Plus building a rapport with your pro shop can have many advantages besides the fact usually by the time you buy a ball elsewhere, have it drilled, gripped and slugged it ends up costing more.
So I should go to my pro shop, and ask for a report for a ball I'm going to buy? Let's say the ball cost 130$ undrilled, what's a good estimate?
GeorgiaStroker
06-06-2012, 02:36 AM
So I should go to my pro shop, and ask for a report for a ball I'm going to buy? Let's say the ball cost 130$ undrilled, what's a good estimate?
Not sure about your pro shop but most I've visited include drilling in the cost of the ball and charge extra for inserts and slugs. If you bring in an udrilled ball from an outside source they usually charge about $50 or so for drilling.
martinezsam2495
06-06-2012, 03:14 AM
Not sure about your pro shop but most I've visited include drilling in the cost of the ball and charge extra for inserts and slugs. If you bring in an udrilled ball from an outside source they usually charge about $50 or so for drilling.
Can I go to find out my measurements for my fingers and all that? I want fingertips in there for the extra hook,
What are slugs?
bowl1820
06-06-2012, 11:54 AM
What ball do you use, if you release the ball with hook?
Currently I use 4 balls
Rotogrip-
Nomad Solid for oil
Nomad Dagger for mediums
Storm-
Pyro for dry and shorter patterns
Columbia-
White Dot for spares and dry
I also have a Urethane ball, a org. Faball Burgundy Hammer
What are slugs?
www.youtube.com/watch?v=behRs4YrRUQ
TheSheibs
06-06-2012, 12:38 PM
A slug is used to fill in a hole. It seems that it has become common to drill a thumb hole to fit a slug and then drill the slug to the size hole that is the correct size of for the bowlers thumb. I imagine this makes it easier to refill the hole later since they would just drill out or remove the remaining part of the slug and put a new slug in if the bowler needed the hole redrilled for whatever reason. One reason is that the ball is being passed to a different bowler who had different size thumb.
martinezsam2495
06-06-2012, 12:46 PM
Currently I use 4 balls
Rotogrip-
Nomad Solid for oil
Nomad Dagger for mediums
Storm-
Pyro for dry and shorter patterns
Columbia-
White Dot for spares and dry
I also have a Urethane ball, a org. Faball Burgundy Hammer
www.youtube.com/watch?v=behRs4YrRUQ
If I were to choose one of those balls for a house pattern, which would you choose, considering you can only take one?
martinezsam2495
06-06-2012, 12:47 PM
A slug is used to fill in a hole. It seems that it has become common to drill a thumb hole to fit a slug and then drill the slug to the size hole that is the correct size of for the bowlers thumb. I imagine this makes it easier to refill the hole later since they would just drill out or remove the remaining part of the slug and put a new slug in if the bowler needed the hole redrilled for whatever reason. One reason is that the ball is being passed to a different bowler who had different size thumb.
If I were to redrill my dad's ball, would it be expensive?
billf
06-06-2012, 12:52 PM
Like all prices, pro shop services differ by location. Call your pro shop and ask how much they would charge to plug and re-drill. This is a standard procedure and most shops have a menu price for it.
martinezsam2495
06-06-2012, 01:00 PM
Like all prices, pro shop services differ by location. Call your pro shop and ask how much they would charge to plug and re-drill. This is a standard procedure and most shops have a menu price for it.
oh alright thanks Bill, I will do that, but if I get the Critical Theory or Infinite Theory then I will use that,
TheSheibs
06-06-2012, 01:00 PM
Like all prices, pro shop services differ by location. Call your pro shop and ask how much they would charge to plug and re-drill. This is a standard procedure and most shops have a menu price for it.
Couldn't have said it better. I know that one of the pro shop in my area charges $20-$40 to drill a ball. The ball itself was $20. The other thing with redrilling your dads ball is that if there are a lot of scratches and such, it might need to be resurfaced which also varies in price depending on location. Also when redrilling a ball, they have to fill in the finger holes too.
bowl1820
06-06-2012, 01:24 PM
If I were to choose one of those balls for a house pattern, which would you choose, considering you can only take one?
I use the Nomad Dagger for the house shot here. But I could use the Solid on it also depending on what surface I put on it.
But that's me and how I bowl ( I start off the night standing around 22 on the approach and break the ball off the 6-7 board. look at my sig. below for more info.)
martinezsam2495
06-06-2012, 09:22 PM
I use the Nomad Dagger for the house shot here. But I could use the Solid on it also depending on what surface I put on it.
But that's me and how I bowl ( I start off the night standing around 22 on the approach and break the ball off the 6-7 board. look at my sig. below for more info.)
I see, I haven't broke down my approach on boards yet, rather on arrows..
Do you run up to the lane or how do you approach?
bowl1820
06-06-2012, 09:42 PM
I see, I haven't broke down my approach on boards yet, rather on arrows..
Do you run up to the lane or how do you approach?
No I don't "Run" up to the foul line, no one should. I use a four step approach.
martinezsam2495
06-06-2012, 09:49 PM
No I don't "Run" up to the foul line, no one should. I use a four step approach.
I don't mean literally run, but speed up from the first step to the 4th step,
because I have seen different styles, from people just walking up to the foul line, stopping then he aimed his shot and released, it had a great throw with hook and demolished the pins.
J Anderson
06-06-2012, 11:23 PM
I don't mean literally run, but speed up from the first step to the 4th step,
because I have seen different styles, from people just walking up to the foul line, stopping then he aimed his shot and released, it had a great throw with hook and demolished the pins.
One of the advantages of being young is that you can try a number of different techniques without having to fight old muscle memories. If you watch 10 pro bowlers, you'll see 10 different approaches with variations in tempo, speed, direction, length of slide, number of steps, etc. Most of us start with either as close to our normal way of walking as possible, or we try to copy the way someone else does it. It sounds like you have a pretty good coach. Hopefully, he'll let you try different things and yet keep you from getting into bad habits.
martinezsam2495
06-06-2012, 11:43 PM
One of the advantages of being young is that you can try a number of different techniques without having to fight old muscle memories. If you watch 10 pro bowlers, you'll see 10 different approaches with variations in tempo, speed, direction, length of slide, number of steps, etc. Most of us start with either as close to our normal way of walking as possible, or we try to copy the way someone else does it. It sounds like you have a pretty good coach. Hopefully, he'll let you try different things and yet keep you from getting into bad habits.
Yeah he's pretty good, he has shown me how to find my strike zone at Del Rio, and I have to adjust but also on different bowling lanes, My strike spot is between the 1st pin and 2nd pin on the left,
ball has to go through the 2nd arrow and hook into the pocket,
eugene02
06-07-2012, 12:03 AM
Your lucky to have a coach to teach you.. Unlike me :( Learned things the hard way.. by myself.. experiencing..
martinezsam2495
06-07-2012, 12:14 AM
Your lucky to have a coach to teach you.. Unlike me :( Learned things the hard way.. by myself.. experiencing..
I'm pretty sure you've learned pretty well on your own, you should be proud of yourself, :)
TheSheibs
06-07-2012, 12:22 PM
Yesterday I went bowling and figured I would give two finger bowling a try. I got a strike the first time, gutter the second, and knocked down 6 pins the third time. I have some questions for you. Without the thumb I noticed that it is harder for me to release the ball in front of me. I also noticed the ball bounced on one of my attempts. To help better understand how you bowl...How do you hold the ball long enough to throw it smooth and out in front of you? I noticed I dropped the ball each time. When do you take your other hand away from the ball?
martinezsam2495
06-07-2012, 09:48 PM
Yesterday I went bowling and figured I would give two finger bowling a try. I got a strike the first time, gutter the second, and knocked down 6 pins the third time. I have some questions for you. Without the thumb I noticed that it is harder for me to release the ball in front of me. I also noticed the ball bounced on one of my attempts. To help better understand how you bowl...How do you hold the ball long enough to throw it smooth and out in front of you? I noticed I dropped the ball each time. When do you take your other hand away from the ball?
When you knocked down only six pins, did you throw the ball at the 3rd arrow? Because when that happens I usually get a bad brake with the pins and get a 6 as well, knocks down the entire right side,
but mostly I throw at the 1st through 2nd arrow and aim for my strike shot, usually the 7 pin sticks up. I will post a video by sunday showing how I bowl, since I'm sure it'll be a lot easier to see it than explain it., I take my other hand away from the ball as soon as I took my 2nd or 3rd step, For the ball bouncing I sometimes do that to make the ball hook a little later,
TheSheibs
06-07-2012, 10:00 PM
when you take your other hand way is the ball resting on your arm at all? Yes, posting video would make a lot easier to understand. Just trying to understand what it is your doing and how your doing it. I would hate to give you advice on something to have it feel weird with you but at the same time I want to make sure the advice I give will work for your style of bowling.
martinezsam2495
06-10-2012, 12:28 AM
when you take your other hand way is the ball resting on your arm at all? Yes, posting video would make a lot easier to understand. Just trying to understand what it is your doing and how your doing it. I would hate to give you advice on something to have it feel weird with you but at the same time I want to make sure the advice I give will work for your style of bowling.
video will be up soon! Only a couple of clips because the ipod died.
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