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billf
07-06-2012, 08:34 PM
Guinness World Records
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This document acts as a guide to the specific considerations and
undertakings for your potential attempt on the Guinness World
RecordsTM category and is used in conjunction with the Record
Breakers’ Pack, which outlines the evidence required to prove
your attempt’s success. This should be read and understood by
all concerned with the record attempt prior to the attempt – this
includes every participant, organiser and witness.
These guidelines are specific to your attempt and must be
followed. Should any guideline be contravened, your attempt
will be disqualified, without any right of appeal.
Please note that, as detailed in the Agreement Regarding Record
Attempts, these guidelines in no way provide any kind of safety
advice or can be construed as providing any comfort that the
record is free from risk. Guinness World Records will not accept
responsibility for the safety of participants or bystanders in any
record attempt. It is your sole responsibility to ensure that all
necessary safety precautions are in place and that all equipment
used is suitable and thoroughly checked prior to the record
attempt taking place and in compliance with any and all local
health and safety laws and regulations.
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TENPIN BOWLING – HIGHEST PINFALL IN 24 HOURS
DEFINITION OF RECORD
This record is for the most pins knocked down within 24 hours – not the score.
This record is to be attempted by an individual.
GUIDELINES FOR ‘TENPIN BOWLING – HIGHEST PINFALL IN 24 HOURS’
1. The attempt should take place at a tenpin bowling centre on standard lanes.
Prior to the attempt the challengers should obtain consent in writing from the
owner/manager of the facility. A copy of this permission should be submitted
with the record claim.
2. Only one lane is to be used.
3. The format of play shall be pin fall, i.e. 10 pins are bowled at for each initial
bowl, followed by a second bowl at however many pins are left standing after the
initial bowl before the pins are reset to 10.
4. If during the attempt, the malfunction of a bowling machine occurs for a period
of longer than five minutes, then the bowler can be transferred to a new lane.
5. Balls used will be within recognised standards and there is no limit to the
number of balls in use.
6. Bowlers may bowl with the right or left hand at any time.
7. Lanes should be dressed once before the commencement of the attempt, and, if
necessary, if required by the venue used, lanes can be re-oiled. The participant,
therefore, should move to a new lane during re-oiling but must move back to
his/her original lane once re-oiling is completed.
GENERAL ‘MOST…IN 24 HOURS’ GUIDELINES
 The name of the organisation, company or person(s) making the attempt must
be given, along with the date and place.
 The event must take place in a public place or in a venue open to public
inspection.
 No person under the age of 16 may attempt this record. Persons aged between
16 and 18 must be in possession of a document signed by their parent or legal
guardian, giving them permission to compete. This must be added to the log
book and witnessed before the attempt has started.
 The event is continuous. The clock does not stop. 24 hours means a complete
24-hour cycle including rest breaks. For example, if the event starts at 12 noon
on Monday, it must finish at 12 noon on Tuesday.
 The participant may take as many breaks as he/she wishes, but the clock must
not stop at any time for any reason.
 A loud start and finish signal recognized by all participants must be used.
 Two experienced timekeepers (e.g. from a local athletics club) must time the
attempt with stopwatches accurate to 0.01 seconds.
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ADDITIONAL EVIDENCE
 The activity you are attempting MUST BE CLEARLY VISIBLE on the video
footage as we will not be able to accept your claim. This comes from problems
we have encountered when trying to count legitimate push-ups.
 The entire attempt must be filmed in case further evidence is required.
 For times up to one hour, we expect the entire attempt to be submitted on video.
For events longer than this, a ‘highlights package’ will be acceptable but must
include the following points:
o Footage of the start of the attempt
o Two minutes footage every hour
o Any points where the claimant takes a break – a clock or timer must be
visible on screen, but not the camcorder’s own time display
o The point at which the record is broken
o The end of the attempt.
 The camera must be focused on the attempt at all times and preferably be static.
 Failure to include the required documentation will ultimately delay the outcome
of your claim or lead to its rejection.

billf
07-06-2012, 08:36 PM
Does anybody have a clue how big of a memory card I will need for my camcorder to record the whole 24 hours?

billf
07-06-2012, 08:38 PM
My goal of 18,000 pins averages out to 12.5 per minute. I'm going to time some throws in practice tomorrow and see how many racks I can get in a minute.

ursus
07-06-2012, 11:14 PM
I wonder if there is way to hook the camera up a portable hard drive and have it going directly onto that.

billf
07-06-2012, 11:32 PM
It's a Sony Handycam. I believe I might be able to do that. Could run a USB cord from the camera to the hard drive. Have to do some pre-testing. How bad would it suck ti break the record but not get it recognized due to a recording failure....

ursus
07-07-2012, 12:17 PM
By their list there are a lot of potential things that can go wrong. I would try to build as much reundancy into the recording and timing as possible in case something goes wrong there is a back up already working.

billf
07-07-2012, 06:59 PM
You are correct, a lot of potential disaster awaits. I timed my tenth frame today. I was able to throw all three balls in 40 seconds without rushing too much. I'm going to work on timing the rack a little better so I won't have to wait until it's on the way up before I begin my approach.

TheSheibs
07-10-2012, 12:48 AM
Use a webcam connected to a laptop that is plugged in to provide continuous charge then use a video recorder program such as AVS video recorder to continuously record the session. You just need to make sure your laptop can handle that much video. Maybe get a 1tb external hard drive that you can have the video saved to.

billf
07-10-2012, 01:03 AM
Good suggestions. Thank you

Hampe
07-10-2012, 07:38 AM
Yea, I would definitely make sure you have at least 2 (pre-tested) methods of recording in case one should fail.

martin
07-16-2012, 05:32 AM
what is the current record? is there any? good luck anyway bill..

billf
07-16-2012, 11:43 AM
15,000 pins is the current record

ursus
07-16-2012, 02:04 PM
Before you go for the Record, you may want to try a one hour practice run to get your timing down, make sure your recording equipment works good.

martin
07-17-2012, 12:52 AM
15.000? by who?

billf
07-17-2012, 08:24 AM
I'm not sure as it's not on the website and the didn't tell me who, when or where.

martin
07-18-2012, 04:26 AM
i see.. who cares anyway.. very soon, the record books will say: record holder BILL with a record of 18.001 pins.. *lol*

billf
08-03-2012, 11:13 PM
Well the people I usually bowl with on Saturdays won't be going. Thinking it would be a good time to see how many pins I can get in an hour. Maybe tape it to see where to cut down on time between shots. My goal for the first hour is 500 pins. Well below what I need to average for the record but a good place to start.

JaMau24
08-04-2012, 12:45 AM
So what are you going to do about eating, going to the bathroom?

striker12
08-04-2012, 12:32 PM
good luck bill there no way i could even do that i would probly fall asleep on the bal return after like 18hrs

billf
08-04-2012, 01:16 PM
So what are you going to do about eating, going to the bathroom?

You can take a break whenever you want so I will use that for the bathroom. Eating I will do while bowling. I figure somebody can bring me food. Most of the employees know what I like to eat there and usually bring it to me anyway. I will just leave a credit card or cash up there before I start.

TheSheibs
08-05-2012, 11:12 AM
So are you just about to the big day? When are you making your attempt for the record? I hope you have everything worked out with the camer(s) your going to use.

martinezsam2495
08-05-2012, 11:58 AM
you should livestream the event!

billf
08-05-2012, 01:23 PM
I'm waiting for the league schedules to come out. I want to do it Dec 15th. That's my granddaughter's birthday. The money is for Dayton Children's Hospital and that is where she was born, with an inoperable brain tumor. They tried surgery anyway but weren't able to remove any of it. She stayed in the hospital for three weeks. Being terminal, they let my step-daughter take her baby home. She passed away Jan 15, 2009. The doctors and nurses at the hospital were all extremely nice, professional, excellent people. I took as much time off of work as I could afford and spent every minute in the ICU with her. After going back to work I would drive the 90 minutes to the hospital and spend all my time with her until I left for work in the morning. When I went to the restroom or take a shower at the hospital, the nurses would call my cell with theirs so I could hear her monitors. She had a DNR so they didn't want to be around when the monitors went off and I refused to let her die alone. It was an emergency c-section so my step-daughter wasn't allowed on that floor for extended periods of time. Couple that with my step-daughter being in denial that a baby that appeared perfectly healthy was dying, I had no choice but to step up.

J Anderson
08-05-2012, 07:18 PM
I'm waiting for the league schedules to come out. I want to do it Dec 15th. That's my granddaughter's birthday. The money is for Dayton Children's Hospital and that is where she was born, with an inoperable brain tumor. They tried surgery anyway but weren't able to remove any of it. She stayed in the hospital for three weeks. Being terminal, they let my step-daughter take her baby home. She passed away Jan 15, 2009. The doctors and nurses at the hospital were all extremely nice, professional, excellent people. I took as much time off of work as I could afford and spent every minute in the ICU with her. After going back to work I would drive the 90 minutes to the hospital and spend all my time with her until I left for work in the morning. When I went to the restroom or take a shower at the hospital, the nurses would call my cell with theirs so I could hear her monitors. She had a DNR so they didn't want to be around when the monitors went off and I refused to let her die alone. It was an emergency c-section so my step-daughter wasn't allowed on that floor for extended periods of time. Couple that with my step-daughter being in denial that a baby that appeared perfectly healthy was dying, I had no choice but to step up.

Amazing what you can do when you have to.

J Anderson
08-11-2012, 11:14 PM
A pair of bowlers with a similar quest.

http://daily-journal.com/archives/dj/display.php?id=494758

billf
08-12-2012, 12:46 AM
I was able to get a print out today after practice. New system that even figures how long you take per frame. Even with breaks, talking, etc I average 1:46 per frame over 14 games.

striker12
08-12-2012, 02:07 PM
gl bill on beating the record cause after u beat it then im going to try to beat yours probly would not happen but its worth a try and i would try to beat yours by at least 1 pin. lol

Mike White
08-12-2012, 03:06 PM
These guidelines are specific to your attempt and must be
followed. Should any guideline be contravened, your attempt
will be disqualified, without any right of appeal.

3. The format of play shall be pin fall, i.e. 10 pins are bowled at for each initial
bowl, followed by a second bowl at however many pins are left standing after the initial bowl before the pins are reset to 10.


Since the attempt is one continuous event you might want to have the machine in practice mode the whole time. i.e. not scoring game by game.

If you have the machine in the scoring mode a potential problem might occur.

If you spare in a 10th frame, and don't strike on the count ball, the machine will automatically wipe out the remaining pin(s)

Likewise, if you double in a 10th frame, and don't strike on the count ball.

It's a seemingly minor thing, but it does appear to violate rule #3.

striker12
08-12-2012, 03:13 PM
mike i see where your going with that but if you set it to where the machine dose not score for you that means u have to scores yourself and that could take away some seconds from your bowling to beating the record.

but i also think once the game is over and it reracks the pins on the finaly shot of the 10th frame i dont think that would do anything about the rule cause its kinda hard to stop mostly when you cant score no more after the 3rd ball in that game.

J Anderson
08-12-2012, 05:15 PM
mike i see where your going with that but if you set it to where the machine dose not score for you that means u have to scores yourself and that could take away some seconds from your bowling to beating the record.

but i also think once the game is over and it reracks the pins on the finaly shot of the 10th frame i dont think that would do anything about the rule cause its kinda hard to stop mostly when you cant score no more after the 3rd ball in that game.

The record is for pins knocked down. It will not be scored as a regular game. I am assuming Bill will have some volunteers keeping track of that for him.

striker12
08-12-2012, 05:49 PM
if that is the way it dose do soo he would ahve to knock down a total of 625 pins per hr to tie to record and just alittle more to beat it soo he probly could do it easyly by at least knocking down 10pins every minute

billf
08-12-2012, 07:41 PM
12.5 pins a minute for a total of 18,000 is my goal. There will have to be volunteers that are sanctioned by the USBC to keep the score. I still have to discuss with the center owner about what mode/method would be best. As minor as the fill ball might seem, those pins will also be needed and the time to reset from one game to the next would be wasted.
I bowled and knocked down 2,486 pins today in three hours. That was an average of 828.66 per hour, 13.81 per minute and didn't rush at all. During the beginning of the attempt I will pick up the pace more while trying to make as many quality shots as possible. I know after 10 hours the pace will slow down and want a cushion for when that happens. I also want enough of a lead that I can use the restroom at least once without costing myself the record.

striker12
08-12-2012, 08:15 PM
soo if u have to get 12pin a minute soo my idea soo u cna take a few breaks and use a bathroom a few times could be too on the first maby hr or 2 try to get at least 20-30pins a minute soo then u can take enoph of a lead that u cna pace your self after that and still not have to worry about having to go to the bathroom and about to lose the record cause if u do 30hrs for 2 hrs u will have a total of 3600 pins down witch will give u atleast a 500 pin lead above the record to slow back down and pace yourself.

BrunsTony
08-14-2012, 02:26 AM
Good luck Bill. We just broke the record for most in 24 hours by a pair. You're in for a grueling task my friend. Im so sore that I haven't left my bed in two days. I can't even walk.

striker12
08-14-2012, 09:28 AM
oh yeha bill remember take up at least 2 or 3 striks ball just in chace u get a stirke in reset and your strike ball is taking sometime to get back u can just throw your other strike ball and stay on pace

RoccoRock
08-14-2012, 06:03 PM
My friends and I compeate in a 24 hour RC car race every year. We thought that was badass, but this, you are the man my friend. My wife and I talked about making the trip to come see this whenever you do it. If you post the date your gonna do it in advance, maybe we will road trip it!

billf
08-14-2012, 10:11 PM
When all the details are finalized I will post it.

27,000+ pins by a pair, very impressive.

billf
08-14-2012, 10:20 PM
Good luck Bill. We just broke the record for most in 24 hours by a pair. You're in for a grueling task my friend. Im so sore that I haven't left my bed in two days. I can't even walk.

I was planning on shooting any extra leaves. What did you guys do, shoot them or reset? The time to reset is almost the same so it seems a waste of time.

BrunsTony
08-15-2012, 02:06 AM
That link that was posted from the Daily Journal is about us. The record breaking article will be out Wednesday. We beat Chad McLeans pair record of 27,437. We shot 28,228.

Bill, we set the scoring on 27 hours of bowling so you never had to hit end game and start a new one, just kept bowling. We also set the scoring on 5 pin no tap, so as long as we hit 5 pins, it would always give us a fresh rack. I suggest putting down a long pattern like the US Open or similar. The right side will dry up in a matter of hours. Also in the guidelines it says that you can reoil per the owners request. Do that. Brush up on bowling with your opposite hand. We 5 hours of left handed bowling late in the night. This allowed for our swollen right hands to be iced and ready for the home stretch. Our goal was 20 pins per minute and at least 1200 per hour. We went 1176 per hour which was enough.

Last month I tied Colin Champion's record for most strikes in a minute with 8. That was a great test to see how the 24 hour would stack up. I would also encourage drinking two quarts of water each hour to stay hydrated.

Another questions, just email me and I'd be glad to help. I'll even explain the ways we used to record the event. ( t.hubert@hotmail.com )

billf
08-15-2012, 11:03 PM
Thank you. If I get time soon to compile a sensible list I will email you. The recording part of it is of definite interest.

Tokes
08-19-2012, 05:58 PM
Rooting for you Bill. Nothing better than doing something for a good cause.

billf
08-19-2012, 06:22 PM
Thank you

billf
08-26-2012, 11:47 AM
With the start of leagues this past week I haven't done anything in the set-up for the attempt this week.. The center owner and I both have just been way too busy.
I have received quite a few private messages about why I want to do this, all in favor so far. With that in mind there is something I would like to share with everyone here. I have had several articles I've written over the years published and have been working on a book but this will always be my most cherished writing. The day my granddaughter, Jenniyah, passed away I was the only one in any shape to drive to get the other grandkids from school. I wrote this as a text to my step-daughter while sitting there waiting the few minutes for the kids. She liked it and asked me to type it out on the computer which I did with a picture. We went to Staples to make 300 copies. Heather wanted to have them available at Jenniyah's memorial service. When I went to Staples to pick them up, with the estimate amount ready, the young women behind the counter refused my money. They apologized for reading it which wasn't necessary. Then the day of the service the Preacher came to me. They wanted me to read it in front of the whole assembly. Now I've buried two kids, held friends while they died, awarded Purple Hearts and Bronze Stars, numerous Honor Guard for fallen comrades and this was by far the hardest thing I have ever done. Speaking in front of 287 people wasn't the issue, public speaking is easy for me. The subject wasn't so easy.

Only a month was she in our lives. Then God brought her back to be by his side. Not a single word did she ever speak. Yet to be touched by her was to be touched by the hand of God Himself. She was definitive proof that Angels are among us, that miracles do exist. Just one look and she opened your heart, filling it with love and compassion. In one month she made a bigger impact on the world than most of us will do in eighty years. So when you think of Jenniyah, remember how she filled your heart with joy, kindness, compassion and a never ending love. May her mother, Heather, live each day in a way to honor Jenniyah and make her proud

striker12
08-26-2012, 03:32 PM
bill that was good sad to hear that but the thing at the bottom (srry cant remember at this moment what theya re called) that was touching

serial bowl
08-26-2012, 07:03 PM
Your words of choice are beautiful, very nice eulogy.