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    German Shepherd, I was a 4 stepper but when I got back into bowling last season, I tried to make some changes and it didn't work. So I went back to what I know. Also, I have never had a big back swing EVER. I have tried to increase my back swing but it didn't work for me. So I will keep my "push-away" where it is. With my timing it works just fine. I also think that while bowling the game in the video I was starting to get into a rush and making my last two steps quicker than the first two. I will try to post some video of the side of my approach so you can see what I am doing from first step to follow-through. I will also take you up on the suggestion to check out Parker Bohn III. I haven't seen him bowl. So I will check it out and see what he does. As for my arm swing being a little erratic. That day it was for some reason. On Monday during league my arm swing was just fine and I was over my average all three games. I even was able to bowl a 210 game which is my first 200+ game during a league since getting back into bowling. I am open to trying new things but I have tried changing my arm swing and it hasn't helped. Actually made things worse.

    Billf, I read the article and it was very interesting. Here are my conclusions after trying it today. 1: It seems like what he is talking about is how your shoulders are aligned when you release the ball. If you watch biginners, they tend to have the ball go "Brooklyn" or across the lane because they are not releasing the ball with their shoulders in the right spot. 2: I tried this today for three games. I noticed two things. The first is that my ball curved a lot more. The second is that I felt that my shoulders where square to the pins when I released the ball. Actually felt weird the first couple times. Third, I noticed that my ball speed went from 14-16mph to 11-13mph. This slower speed could account for my ball curving more than usual. Fourth, I couldn't seem to find the pocket without going "brooklyn". I think this is due to not being able to find the starting spot for the change caused by this. The positives: First, it seems that if I am on lanes that my ball is not curving on, I could do this to get it to curve into the pocket. So it is another tool in the tool box, should I need it. Out of three games I only hit above my average once. Second is that I could see using this if you are someone who throws to the outside and needs it to curve back since this can be used to prevent you from turning your shoulders too far towards the gutter. Overall, it was fun to try something new but it just really messed with my game. Out of three games I had 6 strikes when I average 12+ strikes in three games right now. I also had to bowl 6 more games to get back to what I was doing before. I might revisit this again in the future but don't think I will be changing anything with my balance arm just yet.

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    Another great lefty to check out is Johnny Petraglia. Parker Bohn III and Johnny Petraglia are two of the most fluid, perfect tempo bowlers ever.
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    Very observant Jay!
    I didn't notice that. your theory just might work.. well let's see what happens during the testing

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    [QUOTE=TheSheibs;47474]German Shepherd, I was a 4 stepper but when I got back into bowling last season, I tried to make some changes and it didn't work. So I went back to what I know. Also, I have never had a big back swing EVER. I have tried to increase my back swing but it didn't work for me. So I will keep my "push-away" where it is. With my timing it works just fine. I also think that while bowling the game in the video I was starting to get into a rush and making my last two steps quicker than the first two. I will try to post some video of the side of my approach so you can see what I am doing from first step to follow-through. I will also take you up on the suggestion to check out Parker Bohn III. I haven't seen him bowl. So I will check it out and see what he does. As for my arm swing being a little erratic. That day it was for some reason. On Monday during league my arm swing was just fine and I was over my average all three games. I even was able to bowl a 210 game which is my first 200+ game during a league since getting back into bowling. I am open to trying new things but I have tried changing my arm swing and it hasn't helped. Actually made things worse.]

    Okay dude. I hope I didn't offend you. I am glad, though, that you are looking at the Parker Bohn III vids. His physical game is so perfect it isn't even funny. Just the same, I think working on your tempo will be of great benefit to you. This is something that even highly accomplished rollers need to spruce up on once in awhile...

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    Sorry if it came off that way. I was not offended. I realized it sounded like that after I posted it. Kind of was hoping it wouldn't come across like that. I watch Parker Bohn III and I must say his balance arm is in motion all the way up to the release. It goes forward, up, then comes back and stops next to the side of his body. It seems in his earlier video he didn't bring the ball up high behind him but then in the newer video he brings the ball back pretty high. Pretty interesting style to watch.

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    I must be psychic. Check out this months USBowler. Available on-line for free at bowlingball.com or bowl.com whole article on balance including balance arm placement and why. I'm sure it explains it better than I do.
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