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    He recommended me the Misfit, and he let me throw his ball ( a misfit) he said he got a 300 the night before with it, he was a PBA bowler for over 30 years, has 3 sanctioned 900 series and some other stuff, I tried out his ball and I learned some new vocabulary. He said for my style of bowling I need a good back end ball, since I play out then in. I threw the Misfit and it wasn't going into the pocket well, he recommended me another ball, a storm ball that isn't sold anymore, but remade and named Frantic. I had some good strikes with that ball, but it would go brooklyn too much, I only threw 3 shots with that ball, 2/3 strikes. 3rd shot was a stone pin in the middle who didn't want to fall, haha. I chose to get a Reckless, but it wasn't in stock so I have to wait, he said the price for drilling and all the inserts would be 176$ is that a good price?
    I'm hoping I will have good power on the Reckless. He recommended me to talk to Mark Baker, a famous coach who coaches Barnes and other PBA bowlers, he said their good friends, and to give him a call to coach me. The problem is... he charges $80 an hour. :x

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    wow $80 per hour is super expensive in my opinion.. i would learn from myself than.. $80 per hour for your rates would be $100 + for mine.. which means i could bowl a hundred games for 1 of my bowling center here.. i guess with that hundred game i would get better myself.. this is what i think.. Frantic ball dies out after 50games + or so as some of the people in this forum says. but it also depends on how you maintain the ball.. for me.. i think the reckless or Too reckless would be a good choice for you anyway.. both of the balls are similar i would say.. will have to let bill to say about this as he has more information about DV8 than i do.. Cheers! hope you'll get good with the ball and throw using 2 finger and a thumb! $176 = around $222 SGD.. which is the cost of a Misfit ball.. how great is it to stay on the other side of the world where the balls are cheaper compared to here in Singapore
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    The misfit was 110$ undrilled,
    Yeah it is, but he said he could help perfect my form, he said I have a good release,
    I got a towel to wipe the ball, come down to the US, the lanes here are cheaper as well ( in some places)

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    lol.. flying there isn't cheap ~_~.. it cost thousands which i can play thousands of games here maybe next time when i'm working and all i might just fly down to US for some holiday trips to take a look in Singapore, Misfit is $220 SGD Drilled, Hell Raiser Revenge is $300 SGD Drilled. so i'm guessing the reckless might be $260 SGD Drilled. ))
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    80$ sounds about normal and might be a good investment. Having someone show you the proper form and technique is worth way more than practicing 100 or even 500 games with incorrect form. Trust me.....if the guy is good it's definitely worth it.

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    to me, i watch videos online on how to throw a ball all this and i've learned different people different i guess..
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    That's one way to do it for sure, but a video can't watch you from behind or the side and tell you what you're doing wrong. You may think you are doing exactly what you saw in the video, but experience will show that is rarely the case. You'd be suprised how much a good coach can show you and correct in your game in 1 hour.

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    $80/hour is about what lessons cost over here on the other Gold Coast. Thing is that most of the time the lessons are only 1/2 hour so you get to focus on fewer things and be on your way to perfecting them by the next lesson. The $80/ hour goes further than you think as long as you have the time to practice what you learn.
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    and Mark Baker includes video taping in that lesson.

    Q. What types of lessons does Mark offer?
    A. Mark offers lessons in a variety of formats and venues:
    Individual lessons: Mark’s home center is Fountain Bowl in Fountain Valley, CA. He coaches there most Fridays, Saturdays and Sundays. He also goes to Surf Bowl in Oceanside every other Tuesday, and Buena Lanes in Ventura and Canoga Park Bowl every other Wednesday. The cost of a one-hour lesson is $80 per hour, which includes video.

    This doesn't sound bad as a way to check it out.
    Asher / Baker Weekly Clinics: The Asher / Baker weekly clinic is held most Saturdays at Fountain Bowl from 12:15 – 2 p.m. The clinic is open to bowlers of all skill levels, and each bowler will be helped by both Barry Asher and Mark Baker. The cost is only $10 per person.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hampe View Post
    That's one way to do it for sure, but a video can't watch you from behind or the side and tell you what you're doing wrong. You may think you are doing exactly what you saw in the video, but experience will show that is rarely the case. You'd be suprised how much a good coach can show you and correct in your game in 1 hour.
    well, I do video myself playing before so yea.. only will get a coach when i'm in school which is in October when i will join their Bowling Team. so.. yup.. self train till than..
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