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    I was wondering what your track can tell you. Theres all those little track marks that run across the ball but can they tell you anything? axis tilt? estimated rev rate? ect...

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    usually it tells the axis tilt..
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    Quote Originally Posted by edpup316 View Post
    I was wondering what your track can tell you. Theres all those little track marks that run across the ball but can they tell you anything? axis tilt? estimated rev rate? ect...
    It can't tell you the rev rate but,

    The two main things it can tell you are the P.A.P. location and Axis Tilt.

    There are several threads on finding the P.A.P. also you can look here:
    http://wiki.bowlingchat.net/wiki/ind...ive_Axis_Point

    How to measure Axis can be found here:
    http://wiki.bowlingchat.net/wiki/ind...itle=Axis_tilt
    all you need is a flexible ruler

    You can also measure the flare, get a basic idea if the bowler is a full roller, 3/4 roller etc., where the bow tie is.
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    Right handed Stroker, high track ,about 13 degree axis tilt. PAP is located 5 9/16” over 1 3/4” up.Speed ave. about 14 mph at the pins. Medium rev’s.High Game 300, High series 798

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    full roller,,, what is a full roller? I understand the term spinner, tweaker, stroker,,, but what is a full roller, and what come after or before a full roller?
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    A full roller is someone who's track is the full circumference of the ball (no axis tilt). In a right handed full roller the track is usually to the left of the fingers, right through the center span and to the right of the thumb. Here's a pic of a layout for a full roller. You can see the track as I described it.

    After full roller comes semi roller, semi spinner, and spinner. They are all just terms for measuring axis tilt. Lowest is full roller and highest is spinner.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MICHAEL View Post
    full roller,,, what is a full roller? I am understand the term spinner, tweaker, stroker,,, but what is a full roller, and what come after or before a full roller?
    Josch covered it pretty good!

    Oh and a "Tweaker" is a methamphetamine user.

    it's "Tweener" in bowling

    You have the bowling styles:
    Spinner, Cranker, Tweener, Stroker and a Full Roller.

    Then you have the 3 basic roll types:
    Spinner, 3/4 Roller and Full Roller

    Their basically the same thing, just the matter of the context they are being used in.

    Right handed Stroker, high track ,about 13 degree axis tilt. PAP is located 5 9/16” over 1 3/4” up.Speed ave. about 14 mph at the pins. Medium rev’s.High Game 300, High series 798

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    Quote Originally Posted by bowl1820 View Post
    Josch covered it pretty good!

    Oh and a "Tweaker" is a methamphetamine user.

    it's "Tweener" in bowling

    You have the bowling styles:
    Spinner, Cranker, Tweener, Stroker and a Full Roller.

    Then you have the 3 basic roll types:
    Spinner, 3/4 Roller and Full Roller

    Their basically the same thing, just the matter of the context they are being used in.

    Is there any advantage to one over the other? Do most GREAT bowlers, use one style over the other? Can you think of one PBA Top bowler that is a full roller/stroker?

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    I am having my new V.G. redrilled becaue the track went through the thumb hole. They are moving the thumb 3", and also moving the finger holes to correct the tracking through the thumb! Hope it works,,, it has been a weak ball for me, unless the lanes are dry!

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    thanks Josh, and bowl1820! Nice diagram josh!

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    Quote Originally Posted by MICHAEL View Post
    Is there any advantage to one over the other? Do most GREAT bowlers, use one style over the other? Can you think of one PBA Top bowler that is a full roller/stroker?
    Many of the pros back in the 50s and 60s threw a full roller, by the mid seventies almost all had switched to the 3/4 roller. The two greatest bowlers of all time, Earl Anthony and Walter Ray Williams, would be considered 3/4 roller/strokers. Tom Baker, (the bowler - not Dr. Who), had some success with a spinner type release after he hurt his wrist late in his career.
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