New PBA Ruling

[MICHAEL]

Bill, how much oil does a ball have to be able to handle to make it a better entry into the pocket? What I am saying is that I believe, after looking at all the charts, on where to stand, and what angle a ball will go into a pocket, ((what more could a bowling ball do, that they can’t do now?))
The technology for handling the lanes now has reached a point that I feel improvement would in reality be insignificant! The Science of cover stock, vs oil patters has reached a stalemate, no where else to REALLY GO! IMHO.
I think the EDGE will ALWAYS BE, KNOWLEDGE,,,, knowing the game inside and out, knowing WHAT ball to use under the circumstances, (because I truly believe that we have the technology and know how to make a ball do just about anything you can imagine now).
Then the MOST IMPORTANT part comes into play. THE INDIVIDUAL!! Some have that spirit, and gift to win! It’s a combination of many things, covered in part above! It’s what makes a Pete Weber, Norm Duke, ect!!
In conclusion, do you think that bowling balls have a LOOOOOG way to go in regards to better handling the oil?? If so what are they lacking at the present time that couldn’t be resolved with Knowledge of the game!
1. How to deliver the ball on various oil patterns
2. Which ball to use, knowing your abilities
3. How to drill your balls to cover the various patterns you bowl
4. Consistent delivery in regards to speed, motion, ect…
This is but a few of the things I think gives the edge,,,, No magic ball that will go down the lanes and correct itself. Balls almost do too much now, like when you go wide, and the ball picks up the dry and shoots back into the pocket! What more can a ball be designed to do? Really???
In regards to pro’s getting the (new) balls and is that fair,, I think the EDGE they get on opponents is at best, psychological! But then what do I know, bill,,,, ( but I do read a lot lol)!

[TheSheibs]

What they should do is allow the pros to use a ball only if it is going to be released or become available in shops within two weeks of the event. That way the consumer can see the new balls being used by a pro and if they like it the pro shops could tell them when to expect it to arrive and even pre-order the ball. This way the companies can get some pre-sales done and the consumer will get their ball the day it becomes available in shops across the country.

[striker12]

i would have to disagree and agree with it disagreeing from it being takingnout of the PBA but say if they doo it at nationals then i can agree to that cause not all nationals go on tv only some that i have been able to find on tv but in turnnys like for your home town league then you should not beable to use it cause other people would want that ball cause it could be say perfect for a sertin lane contion...(ie: the shark pattern) and lots of people are playibg streght up on this pattern but the person with the new ball is playing left pushing it out too where everyone else is going streght up that means hes got the hole inner part of the loane to himself all beacause he got this new ball that other people wish they had.


soo for that part for the pba i disagree and for the rule in other turnnys i would agree because not every one is sponcered and lots of people want to be but its majorly hard to get a sponcer cause it takes year of practice.

[MICHAEL]

Your right on Striker12!! I agree with 100 percent!!

[billf]

Your right on Striker12!! I agree with 100 percent!!

Mike, the ice is freezing your brain. I said the same thing. It only small tournaments the rule applies to, NOT PBA televised events. Yet you agree with Striker and debate with me?!?!?!

[MICHAEL]

Mike, the ice is freezing your brain. I said the same thing. It only small tournaments the rule applies to, NOT PBA televised events. Yet you agree with Striker and debate with me?!?!?!

To be genuine, real, totally sincere, and truthful, I am not sure what I agreed too? I could see striker12 put a lot of reflection, and cerebration into his ideas, concepts and deliberations! What ever evaluations, and appraisals assessments he came up with ,,,, is fine with me! I must have been wrong in my original inferenceses, in regards to the subject matter! I do agree with Striker12, but not you Bill! Does that purport with both of you? If not then join the club…

[billf]

I see, it's just a case of the spelling challenged sticking up for each other. I'm cool with that.

[billf]

Now back to the rule. Mike, how would you feel if team evil called in a favor and had a real PBA pro come sub and they used a ball not available to anybody else there? It takes a stacked deck and tilts it even further. If their physical and mental game is better than mine, so be it. But let it come to that and not the fact that they have access to equipment the rest of us don't. Sponsored star versus sponsored star on TV, no problem because it's available to ALL of them early.

[striker12]

well bill you got a good idea there dose not matter between the sponsors cause they do all get the ball like before anyone even gets told about the ball witch they could use them to say make videos too show how good it works but my main thing is after they do the video's then the sponsors should get the ball back untill the baall is fully out.

that would be alot easyer soo then no one is useing a ball thats not out yet witch other people cant use.

[MICHAEL]

Now back to the rule. Mike, how would you feel if team evil called in a favor and had a real PBA pro come sub and they used a ball not available to anybody else there? It takes a stacked deck and tilts it even further. If their physical and mental game is better than mine, so be it. But let it come to that and not the fact that they have access to equipment the rest of us don't. Sponsored star versus sponsored star on TV, no problem because it's available to ALL of them early.

Bill,,, bill,,,, what am I going to do with you!! If team evil called a favor and called a PBA PRO to come in and bowl in our 14 week $1000.00 two person league, I would simple break his frigen fingers, and go directly to Jail!!



That PBA pro could probably use a coconut and beat the average bowler! I truly believe that balls, have reached a point where Science and engineering have it figured out! I look at all the angles on the charts that show what all the balls will do, and I say to myself, (((( Its all covered??))) I would not like the fact that a PBA bowler, took the place of the otherwise person that would have been there!
Bring in Top Gun type bowler’s when your on a league, is unethical, IMHA!! I don’t like it, and think its criminal!! When I look at all the ball’s, and brands that are out there, and how they work on what types of oil patterns,,,,, come on……. There are much more important things that come to play in bowling!
1. The bowler himself! Some have the gift,,, some will never have it to a PBA level… (GIFT)
2. Knowing what ball of the many that you have to choose from, works with your style of bowling and having it drilled correctly for YOUR STYLE OF bowling, (not what you think your style is, but in reality, YOUR TRUE STYLE,,, !!
3. Knowledge,,,, knowing the many facets of the sport
4. Always pick a ball that smells good! (unless it’s a DVD 8
I really thing that there is really,,,, no where else to go with the nanno, micro, ect ect..! Again look at a chart of what all the Storm balls will do, regardless of your style of bowling? How much more can be accomplished with ball surface.
I don’t see a new ball doing anymore for a Good Bowler that has what I mentioned above, that a ball that’s out there now can do.
Its marketing,,,, Virtual Gravity, Nanno! What????? What in the he$$ has virtual gravity nanno got to do with a bowling ball??
We have a guy in town first name Pat!,,, he has bowled 37 300 games…. And one I witnessed Last week.
He is 58 years old. I ask him how it did,,,, and he said he was up all night drinking and playing poker,,, in fact he said he was up till 4 am!! If a man 58 can do that, so many times,,,, I must conclude the equipment works just fine where we are now…
In conclusion, its not the magic new ball, its knowledge, and skill!!